RCZ's 370Z Journal.

CrownR426 · 06-19-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

Those look great! Come oooon let me rock them for you

hehe

Take a look at this by the way (Thanks AK for the find!). Apparently some folks in Germany think my review threads were good enough to post them on their blogs. International exposure baby haha.

Open JDM: The Streets of Zurich City: 370Z Power-Potenzial

OMG! Your a celebrity!
CAN I GET YOUR AUTOGRAPH?!

semtex · 06-19-2009, 11:42 AM

Cool! They've got a link to one of my threads too.

Maybe I can move up to 14th runner up now!

semtex · 06-19-2009, 11:46 AM

These look pretty.

RCZ · 06-19-2009, 01:37 PM

Holy ****, haha thats awesome. Thanks very much sir! I'd be happy to

DannyGT · 06-19-2009, 02:30 PM

Vossen - that wheel + MORE concave. If you went less lip and more concave it would look killer!

If you build it - they will come!

CBRich · 06-19-2009, 05:06 PM

Like DannyGT said I would also love these wheels with a bit less lip and a little more curve.

RCZ · 06-19-2009, 06:37 PM

OMG! no you can't.

RCZ · 06-24-2009, 01:36 PM

Anyway, I'm going to get an alignment tomorrow. I want something I can use on the street as a daily driver, but has a track bias for my weekend trackdays. I am thinking -2.7 front and -2.3 rear camber. Any suggestions folks? I think Toe is going to stay at 0 for the sake of tire longevity..

If anyone thinks those numbers are whack, let me know why and what you would recommend.

Would love to get some input from the track enthusiasts / race car builders in here.

DannyGT · 06-24-2009, 01:57 PM

Print my settings that I posted and just go slightly more aggressive than that...Mine is working out lovely, and I have the ability to go one notch tighter on the rear sways if I need to get a bit more snap...

The guys I went to are pro, and when I say pro, I mean they are no joke, and mainly setup track porsches etc

travisjb · 06-24-2009, 05:04 PM

Here's what I'm running, generally happy with this

Front camber: -2.00
Rear camber: -2.50
Front caster: +6.00 (stock is 5.0)
Front toe: 0.00
Rear toe: +0.10

I'm not the world's expert on all this but here are my thoughts...

I have less front negative camber, but I get more front roll-induced camber because I set the caster +1 over stock to 6.0. I like the higher caster angle b/c it helps hold straight track with a neutral to slight toe-out setting. I may toe-out front a hair to get quicker turn-in response and scale back understeer, but it is pretty much fine now and appropriate considering stock bushings create some minor compliance and toe-out under acceleration. I have modest rear toe-in now and will probably have that dialed to neutral or slight toe out next time around... Some rear toe out would be appropriate to help balance out understeer tendancy and more if you like to hang it out... as you mention tire life is tradeoff on toe settings.

RCZ · 06-24-2009, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DannyGT

Print my settings that I posted and just go slightly more aggressive than that...Mine is working out lovely, and I have the ability to go one notch tighter on the rear sways if I need to get a bit more snap...

The guys I went to are pro, and when I say pro, I mean they are no joke, and mainly setup track porsches etc

The guy I go to is also very good, he setup a couple of big time winning cars apparently. I'm not sure where your settings are, i looked at your journal and didnt find much in the way of a setup, just some camber settings.

Quote:

Originally Posted by travisjb

Here's what I'm running, generally happy with this

Front camber: -2.00
Rear camber: -2.50
Front caster: +6.00 (stock is 5.0)
Front toe: 0.00
Rear toe: +0.10

I'm not the world's expert on all this but here are my thoughts...

I have less front negative camber, but I get more front roll-induced camber because I set the caster +1 over stock to 6.0. I like the higher caster angle b/c it helps hold straight track with a neutral to slight toe-out setting. I may toe-out front a hair to get quicker turn-in response and scale back understeer, but it is pretty much fine now and appropriate considering stock bushings create some minor compliance and toe-out under acceleration. I have modest rear toe-in now and will probably have that dialed to neutral or slight toe out next time around... Some rear toe out would be appropriate to help balance out understeer tendancy and more if you like to hang it out... as you mention tire life is tradeoff on toe settings.

I will take this into account too. I am going to ask him what he thinks I should do as well and go from there. I'll let you guys know what I end up with tomorrow. I'm not going to lower the front any more, just taking the rear up a notch so its even with the front. I know it could "look" more aggressive, but suspension travel is good on track...

DannyGT · 06-24-2009, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ

The guy I go to is also very good, he setup a couple of big time winning cars apparently. I'm not sure where your settings are, i looked at your journal and didnt find much in the way of a setup, just some camber settings.

No problem - Alignment/Corner Weight Results

I gave them the 2009 370z OEM factory settings that was posted on here as a baseline and told them to go more aggressive based on that...

Granted I havent tracked the car since then but it still feels solid. You might have to get it done twice just to get it the way you want.

M.Bonanni · 06-24-2009, 05:30 PM

The only thing I would worry about going toe out in the rear is bump steer. When under braking or going over bumps where weight is transfered off the rear, raising your suspension, your toe will go out even more and could cause some pretty hairy moments under braking.

travisjb · 06-24-2009, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDMotorsports

The only thing I would worry about going toe out in the rear is bump steer. When under braking or going over bumps where weight is transfered off the rear, raising your suspension, your toe will go out even more and could cause some pretty hairy moments under braking.

That's a good point and considering this car is already light in the back prob better to run neutral rear toe or +0.1 like mine is now

RCZ · 07-22-2009, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDMotorsports

The only thing I would worry about going toe out in the rear is bump steer. When under braking or going over bumps where weight is transfered off the rear, raising your suspension, your toe will go out even more and could cause some pretty hairy moments under braking.

Car definitely felt a LOT better when the suspension was lower. I am going to set it back down and find a way to deal with the speedbumps...

06-19-2009, 11:42 AM	#2 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 54 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 33	Cool! They've got a link to one of my threads too. Maybe I can move up to 14th runner up now! __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

06-19-2009, 11:46 AM	#3 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 54 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 33	These look pretty. __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

06-19-2009, 02:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
DannyGT Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jersey Posts: 919 Drives: 370Z (SOLD) Rep Power: 280	Vossen - that wheel + MORE concave. If you went less lip and more concave it would look killer! If you build it - they will come! __________________ Performance GTM Stage 1 SC, GTM Res.Test Pipes, Invidia Gemini Exhaust, GTM HD Oil Cooler Wheels & Suspension AME Tracer TM02's 19x9.5F 19x10.5R w/ 265x35F & 305x30R, Hotchkis Sways, BC (BR) Racing Coilovers (Car Sold)

06-24-2009, 01:57 PM	#9 (permalink)
DannyGT Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jersey Posts: 919 Drives: 370Z (SOLD) Rep Power: 280	Print my settings that I posted and just go slightly more aggressive than that...Mine is working out lovely, and I have the ability to go one notch tighter on the rear sways if I need to get a bit more snap... The guys I went to are pro, and when I say pro, I mean they are no joke, and mainly setup track porsches etc __________________ Performance GTM Stage 1 SC, GTM Res.Test Pipes, Invidia Gemini Exhaust, GTM HD Oil Cooler Wheels & Suspension AME Tracer TM02's 19x9.5F 19x10.5R w/ 265x35F & 305x30R, Hotchkis Sways, BC (BR) Racing Coilovers (Car Sold)

06-24-2009, 05:04 PM	#10 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 189	Here's what I'm running, generally happy with this Front camber: -2.00 Rear camber: -2.50 Front caster: +6.00 (stock is 5.0) Front toe: 0.00 Rear toe: +0.10 I'm not the world's expert on all this but here are my thoughts... I have less front negative camber, but I get more front roll-induced camber because I set the caster +1 over stock to 6.0. I like the higher caster angle b/c it helps hold straight track with a neutral to slight toe-out setting. I may toe-out front a hair to get quicker turn-in response and scale back understeer, but it is pretty much fine now and appropriate considering stock bushings create some minor compliance and toe-out under acceleration. I have modest rear toe-in now and will probably have that dialed to neutral or slight toe out next time around... Some rear toe out would be appropriate to help balance out understeer tendancy and more if you like to hang it out... as you mention tire life is tradeoff on toe settings. __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

06-19-2009, 01:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	Holy ****, haha thats awesome. Thanks very much sir! I'd be happy to

06-19-2009, 05:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 545	Like DannyGT said I would also love these wheels with a bit less lip and a little more curve.

06-19-2009, 06:37 PM	#7 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	OMG! no you can't.

06-24-2009, 01:36 PM	#8 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	Anyway, I'm going to get an alignment tomorrow. I want something I can use on the street as a daily driver, but has a track bias for my weekend trackdays. I am thinking -2.7 front and -2.3 rear camber. Any suggestions folks? I think Toe is going to stay at 0 for the sake of tire longevity.. If anyone thinks those numbers are whack, let me know why and what you would recommend. Would love to get some input from the track enthusiasts / race car builders in here.

06-24-2009, 05:30 PM	#13 (permalink)
M.Bonanni The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2,575 Drives: Fast Rep Power: 1321	The only thing I would worry about going toe out in the rear is bump steer. When under braking or going over bumps where weight is transfered off the rear, raising your suspension, your toe will go out even more and could cause some pretty hairy moments under braking. __________________ MikeBonanni.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/MikeBonanni Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/MBonanni36 Function > Form

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