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Old 10-06-2011, 12:37 PM   #1636 (permalink)
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Old 10-06-2011, 12:42 PM   #1637 (permalink)
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First Jnaut, then RCZ, so many people have been selling their Z's lately that it's getting kind is sad

Jnaut, great choice on the cts-v, and in manual kudos

RCZ, don't you think you'll be bored driving an auto M3? You've had an STI and 370Z (both manual) why stop now?
Nah, I don't think so. I think im going to pat myself in the back when I'm in miami traffic and i can throw it into full automatic.

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DCTs have a lot going for them. Even our Z's true automatic 7AT is a snappy performer on the track. Perfect blips and downshifts every time without even thinking about, which still leaves lots of other things to focus on. The DCT-type transmissions are in a whole other league though. If I ever ditch my Z, it will most likely be for a DCT car of some kind.
Yeah, a whole other league is right, they are so much faster and more responsive.

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I think I'm doing things backwards from you, RCZ. I went from my Z to an STi.

Make sure you keep us updated on your trip to pick up your M3. Sounds like a blast! Oh and this 'I'm only doing minor mods' thing? We're well past April Fool's Day buddy! Next you'll be trying to sell us the Brooklyn Bridge!
Yeah haha, I loved my STIs! You made a good choice although I have not even sat in one of the new ones. If it's anything like my 06 then it must be a blast. Now that's a fun car to mod! Simple bolt ons and a tune and youre at 330whp/340wtq.

I think I'm going to be good about this one Ben, It is a much much bigger monthly payment than what I have now and the new M3 is coming out in 2013 as a 2014 model so I will keep my car relatively stock and easy to sell. If the rumors are true, its getting a triturbo V6 and less weight! The first turbo is electronic...kinda like an SC for the super low end response.

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Ah, Raul! One of the first people to start modding their Zs... ah I remember the days of JWTs placed carefully on the backdrop of beautiful floral bedding... to be young again!

Good luck with your sale and the new ride, man.
Thanks a lot, man. Yeah, those were happier times when I didn't hate my transmission. Crazy how long we've all be chatting almost on a daily basis.

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Im pretty sure an exhaust on an M3 is required - they sound AMAZING.

And the delivery option sounds awesome dude - $4200? That sounds crazy. How much to ship it back to the states when you're done, or is that part of the package also? And why is it so much cheaper to take European delivery?
Agreed, there are sooo many options I'm going to have a really hard time deciding...I was looking at prices too and nothing is less than $2000
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Old 10-06-2011, 12:43 PM   #1638 (permalink)
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Yup, the price of shipping is already factored into the price of the car even after the discount. So you don't pay extra to ship it back after driving it there. You just get the discount! Also, Lufthansa gives you buy-one-get-one-free airline ticket to Munich to pick up the car, so you can bring a friend and split flight cost. They have several dropoff locations throughout europe, so you don't have to drive back to munich at the end of your trip.

As to why it is cheaper, I am not 100% on this yet, but I would assume you are avoiding some kind of new car export tax since you arent shipping out a new car, but a used one.

AAAAnd another kicker. You can choose to have it shipped to North Carolina BMW performance center and you can go pick it up there. They pay one night hotel, days food and they let you drive a similarly equipped M3 at their test track all day with a Pro instructor..all for free. Of course then you have to figure out how to get your car home after that. In my case, a nice drive down the coastline from NC to Miami. (You can also choose to have it shipped directly to your dealer).
Holy crap... that's quite the package you've got there.

I know my next car is going to be some sort of Eurotrash... just not sure if it will be an ///M or AMG... or Porsche. I would love to take delivery over there.
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God that European delivery option sounds amazing. BMW takes care of their customers really well (and I would hope so for the money you fork out for one of their cars!)

Sadly, my experiences with my Audi have cooled me to getting any European car again anytime soon. It's just not in me right now; maybe when I get older and I'll just want a car that I can relax and drive about, while being able to afford the egregious maintenance costs, I'll go get a BMW.

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Here's the answer to why its cheaper for anyone who was wondering. I was completely wrong.

Why is BMW European Delivery Cheaper than US Delivery?

Phelan, BMW covers all maintenance, brake pads, rotors, oil, etc. for 4 years/50k miles. It will be cheaper to maintain than my Z assuming I don't do something stupid...in that case insurance would cover it.

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Here's the answer to why its cheaper for anyone who was wondering. I was completely wrong.

Why is BMW European Delivery Cheaper than US Delivery?

Phelan, BMW covers all maintenance, brake pads, rotors, oil, etc. for 4 years/50k miles. It will be cheaper to maintain than my Z assuming I don't do something stupid...in that case insurance would cover it.
That's a plus for the ///M case. Big savings there as I would expect to at least go through 2 sets of rotors in that time with just street driving.
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Here's the answer to why its cheaper for anyone who was wondering. I was completely wrong.

Why is BMW European Delivery Cheaper than US Delivery?

Phelan, BMW covers all maintenance, brake pads, rotors, oil, etc. for 4 years/50k miles. It will be cheaper to maintain than my Z assuming I don't do something stupid...in that case insurance would cover it.
RCZ, I know, my Audi was the same way

The problem is after it falls out of the maintenance plan, you pay up the arse for replacement parts and labor! That's where my big issue lies. I don't replace cars very often, I drive until I can't drive them anymore. So the Audi was a really really expensive car to maintain as it neared the end...

But if you're going to move on before it falls out, then
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Yup, the price of shipping is already factored into the price of the car even after the discount. So you don't pay extra to ship it back after driving it there. You just get the discount! Also, Lufthansa gives you buy-one-get-one-free airline ticket to Munich to pick up the car, so you can bring a friend and split flight cost. They have several dropoff locations throughout europe, so you don't have to drive back to munich at the end of your trip.

As to why it is cheaper, I am not 100% on this yet, but I would assume you are avoiding some kind of new car export tax since you arent shipping out a new car, but a used one.

AAAAnd another kicker. You can choose to have it shipped to North Carolina BMW performance center and you can go pick it up there. They pay one night hotel, days food and they let you drive a similarly equipped M3 at their test track all day with a Pro instructor..all for free. Of course then you have to figure out how to get your car home after that. In my case, a nice drive down the coastline from NC to Miami. (You can also choose to have it shipped directly to your dealer).
OK, I gotta ask - what was the final price you paid, if you dont mind saying?
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there's something special about picking up your car at the factory, especially when you pick it up in germany and stop off at the ring and drive through the swiss mountains! really hope you can make this work out - i've driven both of those as you may remember and they are definitely bucket list life events. enjoy yourself!

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... writing from Finland tonight... no sign of Kimi!
If you DID see him, I doubt he'd have much to say...like always.
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If you DID see him, I doubt he'd have much to say...like always.
He'd most likely be passed out in a pool of his own piss.
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RCZ, I know, my Audi was the same way

The problem is after it falls out of the maintenance plan, you pay up the arse for replacement parts and labor! That's where my big issue lies. I don't replace cars very often, I drive until I can't drive them anymore. So the Audi was a really really expensive car to maintain as it neared the end...

But if you're going to move on before it falls out, then
I was first leaning towards a 3 year lease, but it makes more sense to buy it instead. If I do buy it, I will have it a max of maybe 2 years before I sell it. Either way, not getting anywhere near warranty limits!

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OK, I gotta ask - what was the final price you paid, if you dont mind saying?
I haven't bought it yet, but I think I'm getting a good deal.

Has almost every option box ticked from the packages...

MSRP $74,000

My price $63,800 w/ Euro Delivery. Not bad for a 2012 model

That deal is open to anyone, PM me if interested.


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there's something special about picking up your car at the factory, especially when you pick it up in germany and stop off at the ring and drive through the swiss mountains! really hope you can make this work out - i've driven both of those as you may remember and they are definitely bucket list life events. enjoy yourself!

... writing from Finland tonight... no sign of Kimi!
Absolutely, BMW has a ridiculous program. The factory tour is amazing I hear. The only problem with going to the ring is that its north of munich and everything I want to do is south! It would definitely be quite a thrill and though and it is definitely part of my itinerary. Thanks for the input, I agree, they are bucket list events!

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He'd most likely be passed out in a pool of his own piss.
I lolled! I heard he's coming back to F1!
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Hey, you still have your track wheels?
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Absolutely, BMW has a ridiculous program. The factory tour is amazing I hear. The only problem with going to the ring is that its north of munich and everything I want to do is south! It would definitely be quite a thrill and though and it is definitely part of my itinerary. Thanks for the input, I agree, they are bucket list events!



I lolled! I heard he's coming back to F1!
Re ring... you'll be driving from Munich to Stuttgart, and then south through Zurich... the drive through Switzerland is epic, even before you get to the mountains... wish you could see it in summer but even this time of year it will be great... anyways, if you are all the way to Stuttgart, the autobahn to Nurburgring is not much time

finish friends tonight said he's going back as well... they were speculating williams team... still a very marketable driver

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I lolled! I heard he's coming back to F1!
I heard rumors that he's talking to the Williams team but I'm not sure if I believe it or not. He left F1 because he was tired of it and I'm not sure if he would come back if it wasn't with a winning team.

He tried to get into NASCAR earlier this year but couldn't line up a (full-time) ride with a top team so he stopped looking there.

He wants to be somewhere that he can win, regardless of the series, so I'm not so sure if he'd sign with Williams but who knows...
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