Nissan 370Z Forum  

RCZ's 370Z Journal.

you will switch over to permanent boost like sc or turbo after running out of NOS a couple of times LOL

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z General Area > Member's 370Z Gallery


Like Tree2Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-13-2009, 10:39 AM   #136 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
westpak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Lake Worth, FL
Posts: 405
Drives: 2003 350Z DB
Rep Power: 16
westpak is on a distinguished road
Default

you will switch over to permanent boost like sc or turbo after running out of NOS a couple of times LOL
westpak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 10:44 AM   #137 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
MightyBobo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 8,465
Drives: No cars; only bikes
Rep Power: 52
MightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to MightyBobo Send a message via Skype™ to MightyBobo
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wstar View Post
I think it's because most people can't figure out how to type N₂O on their keyboards

Yeah personally I'd feel better reliability-wise with an SC than the N₂O, but I have limited experience with all of this (never on my own cars, just friends' cars). Whether I do any of the above is highly dependent on who makes the kits and how I feel about them after they're released (and even then, maybe after some testing by others).
Just a pet peeve of mine is all. NOS is a brand. Nitrous, is what you want to install - no need to say N2O .

If I do an SC (which I want to do - 400 WHP is my ideal goal), bare minimum I'd be changing out the rod bolts and head bolts. Changing out the bottom end right off the bat might be silly, because that power amount isn't that drastic...I don't see why 400- WHP shouldn't be easy for this motor to handle...

I ran juice on my LS1, and it was great at the track. But thats it...I don't know, I didn't exactly street race much, it was overrated to me.
__________________
I don't own a car anymore.
MightyBobo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 11:04 AM   #138 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
semtex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Behind enemy lines
Age: 54
Posts: 5,995
Drives: People to drink
Rep Power: 32
semtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MightyBobo View Post
I think calling it NOS is a bad thing, thats what I think

Its the cheapest power per dollar upgrade you can get, and can be very reliable with the right precautions in place (window switch, fuel pressure safety switch). Although, reliability issues with a supercharger? Did you install yourself? S/C's are generally very reliable, particularly if you aren't running some obscene amount that pushes the car past its limits...
If I were to install Nitrous, I would most likely go with NOS, the brand. Hence my use of 'NOS', the name. But your point is well taken, as my question was intended as 'what do people think of nitrous', not 'what do people think of this particular brand of nitrous'.

I had a Stillen kit on my Maxima (Vortech blower), and it was installed by a performance shop. The same guy who has installed all my 370Z stuff, in fact. The issue I had in particular wasn't with the SC itself. What happened after the SC was installed was an intermittent fuel cut-off issue. I'd step on it and every once in a while, all power would just cut out. If I lifted off the throttle and nailed it again, it'd come back. But it was really annoying. I had the car dyno-tuned after installing the SC and everything. I have no idea what caused that. Maybe there was a problem with the Apexi fuel controller we were using or something. In any case, it's made me apprehensive about going down that route again is all.
__________________
"There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna
316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) | 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10)
Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.
semtex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 11:29 AM   #139 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
LiquidZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 1,940
Drives: Mag. Black 2009 370Z
Rep Power: 705
LiquidZ has a reputation beyond reputeLiquidZ has a reputation beyond reputeLiquidZ has a reputation beyond reputeLiquidZ has a reputation beyond reputeLiquidZ has a reputation beyond reputeLiquidZ has a reputation beyond reputeLiquidZ has a reputation beyond reputeLiquidZ has a reputation beyond reputeLiquidZ has a reputation beyond reputeLiquidZ has a reputation beyond reputeLiquidZ has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MightyBobo View Post
Just a pet peeve of mine is all. NOS is a brand. Nitrous, is what you want to install - no need to say N2O .

If I do an SC (which I want to do - 400 WHP is my ideal goal), bare minimum I'd be changing out the rod bolts and head bolts. Changing out the bottom end right off the bat might be silly, because that power amount isn't that drastic...I don't see why 400- WHP shouldn't be easy for this motor to handle...

I ran juice on my LS1, and it was great at the track. But thats it...I don't know, I didn't exactly street race much, it was overrated to me.
Bobo, any other reasons you would like to run a SC over a turbo? I feel like a SC would be better for me as well. I think I would better appreciate the power/reliability/cost of a SC over a turbo.

I was just wondering.
__________________
LiquidZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 11:31 AM   #140 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
ChrisSlicks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: North East
Posts: 6,203
Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6
Rep Power: 653
ChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond reputeChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond reputeChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond reputeChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond reputeChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond reputeChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond reputeChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond reputeChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond reputeChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond reputeChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond reputeChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MightyBobo View Post
Nitrous, is what you want to install - no need to say N2O .
Actually the oxide is the important part of N2O. Nitrogen is an inert gas, it is the extra oxygen molecule that separates under heat and pressure that is important.

Probably the bigger issue is will the block take the extra heat generated and what are the resulting oil temperatures going to be.
ChrisSlicks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 11:34 AM   #141 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
MightyBobo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 8,465
Drives: No cars; only bikes
Rep Power: 52
MightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to MightyBobo Send a message via Skype™ to MightyBobo
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LiquidZ View Post
Bobo, any other reasons you would like to run a SC over a turbo? I feel like a SC would be better for me as well. I think I would better appreciate the power/reliability/cost of a SC over a turbo.

I was just wondering.
Turbo's are a great option too, but unless you're running a smaller turbo, down-low power tends to suffer, and turbos tend to peak more. I'm interested less in peak power, than I am with power across the whole band. In which case, SC's are a fantastic way to build instant power down low (which is something the 370 needs badly...). Its unfair to say really, but I feel going for twin turbo setups is, in many cases, ridiculous because its only for people who want to shoot for the moon and say they made *insert huge number here* WHP WOO HOO! Will it ever be utilized? Probably not.

Also, running a turbo will require changing out your exhaust manifold, and may make passing emissions testing a royal PITA, and seeing as Im in a state that requires that, its not worth it. Whereas, a supercharger is quite happy with stock exhaust manifolds and a nice cat back

Thats a couple reasons right there for ya.
__________________
I don't own a car anymore.
MightyBobo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 11:36 AM   #142 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
MightyBobo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 8,465
Drives: No cars; only bikes
Rep Power: 52
MightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to MightyBobo Send a message via Skype™ to MightyBobo
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by semtex View Post
If I were to install Nitrous, I would most likely go with NOS, the brand. Hence my use of 'NOS', the name. But your point is well taken, as my question was intended as 'what do people think of nitrous', not 'what do people think of this particular brand of nitrous'.
I'm just yankin' your chain dude!

BTW, why not NX or another brand that gauges its shots based on wheel horsepower instead of crank?
__________________
I don't own a car anymore.
MightyBobo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 11:44 AM   #143 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
MightyBobo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 8,465
Drives: No cars; only bikes
Rep Power: 52
MightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to MightyBobo Send a message via Skype™ to MightyBobo
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks View Post
Probably the bigger issue is will the block take the extra heat generated and what are the resulting oil temperatures going to be.
Actually, it drops intake charge temperature, and the only very noticeable effect is increased cylinder pressures (which is the thing you need to worry about). Particularly, using such a big shot to just blow a rod through the block. Burning a piston/piston ring can happen too of course. Either way, the key is to make sure you're spraying enough fuel to compensate, and to not use such a big shot that your bottom end wrecks itself.
__________________
I don't own a car anymore.
MightyBobo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 11:45 AM   #144 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
semtex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Behind enemy lines
Age: 54
Posts: 5,995
Drives: People to drink
Rep Power: 32
semtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MightyBobo View Post
I'm just yankin' your chain dude!

BTW, why not NX or another brand that gauges its shots based on wheel horsepower instead of crank?
The blue bottles that NOS uses would match the color of my car better, that's why. (I'm just kidding.) I haven't really researched all the different options on N2O, to be honest. NOS is just the brand that I used on the Maxima, so it's what comes to mind any time I think of nitrous oxide.
__________________
"There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna
316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) | 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10)
Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.
semtex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 11:52 AM   #145 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
MightyBobo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 8,465
Drives: No cars; only bikes
Rep Power: 52
MightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to MightyBobo Send a message via Skype™ to MightyBobo
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by semtex View Post
The blue bottles that NOS uses would match the color of my car better, that's why. (I'm just kidding.) I haven't really researched all the different options on N2O, to be honest. NOS is just the brand that I used on the Maxima, so it's what comes to mind any time I think of nitrous oxide.
Nitrous Outlet tends to make some quality kits, that are well priced. Might look into them too. I think they gauge their shot based on WHP, also...

PS - sorry for whoring up your journal btw, RCZ
__________________
I don't own a car anymore.

Last edited by MightyBobo; 05-13-2009 at 12:02 PM.
MightyBobo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 03:47 PM   #146 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
ChrisSlicks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: North East
Posts: 6,203
Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6
Rep Power: 653
ChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond reputeChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond reputeChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond reputeChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond reputeChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond reputeChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond reputeChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond reputeChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond reputeChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond reputeChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond reputeChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MightyBobo View Post
Actually, it drops intake charge temperature, and the only very noticeable effect is increased cylinder pressures (which is the thing you need to worry about). Particularly, using such a big shot to just blow a rod through the block. Burning a piston/piston ring can happen too of course. Either way, the key is to make sure you're spraying enough fuel to compensate, and to not use such a big shot that your bottom end wrecks itself.
Yes intake temperate does drop (because it's an expanding gas) but burn temperature is higher due to the highly oxygenated atmosphere and additional fuel burn.

It's usually not a problem as you're only doing this for a few seconds at a time typically.
ChrisSlicks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2009, 12:47 PM   #147 (permalink)
RCZ
A True Z Fanatic
 
RCZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Miami
Posts: 6,403
Drives: '09 370Z
Rep Power: 1119
RCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to RCZ
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MightyBobo View Post
Nitrous Outlet tends to make some quality kits, that are well priced. Might look into them too. I think they gauge their shot based on WHP, also...

PS - sorry for whoring up your journal btw, RCZ
hey no problem I know its hard to stay away from the best journal in the universe..

its useful info, I dont mind.
RCZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2009, 12:50 PM   #148 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
semtex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Behind enemy lines
Age: 54
Posts: 5,995
Drives: People to drink
Rep Power: 32
semtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond reputesemtex has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Oh geez... Hey man, I'm still 15th runner up!!
__________________
"There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna
316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) | 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10)
Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.
semtex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2009, 01:18 PM   #149 (permalink)
RCZ
A True Z Fanatic
 
RCZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Miami
Posts: 6,403
Drives: '09 370Z
Rep Power: 1119
RCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to RCZ
Default

Of course Im kidding. Im kinda sad today... Im about to run out of gas from the tank I filled up over the weekend with 108 Octane race gas....
RCZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2009, 01:33 PM   #150 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
ChrisSlicks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: North East
Posts: 6,203
Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6
Rep Power: 653
ChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond reputeChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond reputeChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond reputeChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond reputeChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond reputeChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond reputeChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond reputeChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond reputeChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond reputeChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond reputeChrisSlicks has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RCZ View Post
Of course Im kidding. Im kinda sad today... Im about to run out of gas from the tank I filled up over the weekend with 108 Octane race gas....
Interesting ... did the car respond well to the race gas?
ChrisSlicks is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Edmonton Journal Review of the 370Z BanningZ Nissan 370Z General Discussions 13 08-09-2009 06:44 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:16 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2