DDM Project 370Z

gnarf · 06-17-2009, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DDMotorsports

Aside from whats already in the works, what would you guys like to see next on this car?

TWIN TURBOS....what?? ::shrugs:: somene has to be the guinea pig

M.Bonanni · 06-17-2009, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by travisjb

Semtex my friend, need to lay off whatever you're smoking !

I'd vote for some weight reduction !

Then after all the stuff you mention above, perhaps

- Redline TA street-class legal roll cage
- adjustable front and rear aero, so we can get some data / feedback on how to optimize downforce
- data logging system so we can get a closer look at what your car is doing on the track

Keep in mind that this car is still a daily driver first, then a track car second. Weight reduction will be limited to stuff that is easily removed for the track and put back in for street, and lighter weight parts. I am not going to gut the interior or anything like that. Also not going to do a roll cage for the same reasons.

Now adjustable front and rear aero is on the list but I haven't yet found a manufacturer to make something for these cars. APR has universal fitment rear wings, but right now I think getting front downforce is more important as thats where I am lacking the most grip. Maybe my views on that will change after I get some adjustable front camber arms and raise the grip level with the right alignment settings and wider tires.

Data logging is a great idea too

. I would have to learn how to use it though lol.

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Originally Posted by Caravanshaka

I don't think it is really waht we want to see next on your car, it's more of what you feel is your current weakest link.

You seem to be getting the suspension dialed in, just need the front camber fixed up. You are working on the brakes already. The oil cooling may still be an issue, but with the dual core setup that may change. You've increased the power a bit with some bolt-ons...so the question is what do you feel the car needs?

I think a good engine tune utilizing the capabilities of the vvel will be a nice addition for some added power.

Well obviously I will take care of reliability issues first. I am just trying to get a feel for what you guys want to see next. When it comes down to it, every car needs more of everything so I am just trying to see if there is something specific that the community would like to see.

M.Bonanni · 06-17-2009, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gnarf

TWIN TURBOS....what?? ::shrugs:: somene has to be the guinea pig

lol, I knew that was going to crop up. As of now, I don't want twin turbos really. I am more interested in NA power and reliability at this point. That being said, if someone were to offer me a free TT kit, installation, and tune I probably wouldn't pass that up.

Caravanshaka · 06-17-2009, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DDMotorsports

lol, I knew that was going to crop up. As of now, I don't want twin turbos really. I am more interested in NA power and reliability at this point. That being said, if someone were to offer me a free TT kit, installation, and tune I probably wouldn't pass that up.

He doesn't want them, just come to me if you are handing that out!

Caravanshaka · 06-17-2009, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DDMotorsports

I am just trying to get a feel for what you guys want to see next.

Alrighty, Then I'd like to see your car look more like it's supposed to be on the track

In other words, some aero mods that increase downforce where it is needed, and add ventilation and airflow for cooling would go a long way in getting the car more looks, as well as improving it's capabilities.

M.Bonanni · 06-17-2009, 01:17 PM

^^Ok, so aero seems to be the hot topic then so far.

Anyone else?

RCZ · 06-17-2009, 01:30 PM

Personally, I don't think you should focus on aero just yet. Aero doesn't replace a well setup car with balanced brakes and balanced mechanical grip. I dont think you are done with all the stuff that can and should be done on that front. I think you should focus on having a bulletproof cooling and drivetrain system. Without those you cant drive. Once you can drive it, then focus on having a perfect suspension setup and stiffening up the chassis. Once thats done, setup the braking. Once the car is SOLID all around, then start adding balanced aero parts...nice big adjustable front splitter + nice big high wing.

M.Bonanni · 06-17-2009, 01:33 PM

Cooling and drivetraing fall into the "already in progress" catagory. I am already set on fixing the reliability stuff. I am talking about in the future fellas, once all of the stuff that is on the horizon is done. LSD, front camber arms, cooling stuff, etc. is all already in the works and will be the things that happen first. What I am asking is where you guys would like to see me go from there. Things like functional aero bits will take months to find someone willing to make them, design them, and build them so I am thinking way ahead here. I already know whats in the immediate future for the car.

M.Bonanni · 06-17-2009, 01:44 PM

So I recently found out that AMG has full bucket racing seats in their black series model cars that they use with the factory 3-point seat belts. Upon seeing this photo it showed me how to safely route the seat belts with full bucket seats for use on the street, which is awesome.

My original plan was to run a reclineable like the BRIDE Cuga, the main reason being that I could run safely with the stock seat belts. The only problem with that is that they are expensive and I would have to wait a while before I had the budget for them. Now, with this idea it has me thinking about the BRIDE Zeta III, which is a full bucket, lightweight, and far less expensive. This mod has been bumped up the list now and hopefully maybe become a reality later in the year!

phelan · 06-17-2009, 01:58 PM

^ Do tell if that works. You already know my interest in the Zeta III seats...

M.Bonanni · 06-22-2009, 03:33 PM

I have been pre-occupied with the Project E46 M3 getting that ready for an upcoming show this weekend and have been neglecting the 370Z, but here are a few bits of progress...

Carbonetic LSD will finally get installed tomorrow!

Working on trying to piece together a differential oil cooler kit for the car and find a larger power steering oil cooler today.

Still waiting on the Berk Cat-Back unfortunately

travisjb · 06-22-2009, 05:19 PM

Cool, sounds like progress. Be sure to check in with Robert at Redline re the diff cooler. He's hopefully wrapping up the R&D this week on mine.

M.Bonanni · 06-22-2009, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by travisjb

Cool, sounds like progress. Be sure to check in with Robert at Redline re the diff cooler. He's hopefully wrapping up the R&D this week on mine.

Oh sweet! Maybe he can be my answer to both the oil cooler and diff cooler!

M.Bonanni · 06-23-2009, 12:41 PM

Couldn't wait any longer. Hotchkis sways and SPC front camber arms ordered. Also the Carbonetic LSD going in as we speak!

Caravanshaka · 06-23-2009, 01:03 PM

Nice, are you going to ask to see the original lsd to see how badly you chewed it up on the track?

06-17-2009, 01:17 PM	#291 (permalink)
M.Bonanni The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2,575 Drives: Fast Rep Power: 1321	^^Ok, so aero seems to be the hot topic then so far. Anyone else? __________________ MikeBonanni.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/MikeBonanni Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/MBonanni36 Function > Form

06-17-2009, 01:33 PM	#293 (permalink)
M.Bonanni The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2,575 Drives: Fast Rep Power: 1321	Cooling and drivetraing fall into the "already in progress" catagory. I am already set on fixing the reliability stuff. I am talking about in the future fellas, once all of the stuff that is on the horizon is done. LSD, front camber arms, cooling stuff, etc. is all already in the works and will be the things that happen first. What I am asking is where you guys would like to see me go from there. Things like functional aero bits will take months to find someone willing to make them, design them, and build them so I am thinking way ahead here. I already know whats in the immediate future for the car. __________________ MikeBonanni.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/MikeBonanni Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/MBonanni36 Function > Form

06-17-2009, 01:44 PM	#294 (permalink)
M.Bonanni The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2,575 Drives: Fast Rep Power: 1321	So I recently found out that AMG has full bucket racing seats in their black series model cars that they use with the factory 3-point seat belts. Upon seeing this photo it showed me how to safely route the seat belts with full bucket seats for use on the street, which is awesome. My original plan was to run a reclineable like the BRIDE Cuga, the main reason being that I could run safely with the stock seat belts. The only problem with that is that they are expensive and I would have to wait a while before I had the budget for them. Now, with this idea it has me thinking about the BRIDE Zeta III, which is a full bucket, lightweight, and far less expensive. This mod has been bumped up the list now and hopefully maybe become a reality later in the year! __________________ MikeBonanni.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/MikeBonanni Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/MBonanni36 Function > Form

06-22-2009, 03:33 PM	#296 (permalink)
M.Bonanni The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2,575 Drives: Fast Rep Power: 1321	I have been pre-occupied with the Project E46 M3 getting that ready for an upcoming show this weekend and have been neglecting the 370Z, but here are a few bits of progress... Carbonetic LSD will finally get installed tomorrow! Working on trying to piece together a differential oil cooler kit for the car and find a larger power steering oil cooler today. Still waiting on the Berk Cat-Back unfortunately __________________ MikeBonanni.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/MikeBonanni Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/MBonanni36 Function > Form

06-22-2009, 05:19 PM	#297 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	Cool, sounds like progress. Be sure to check in with Robert at Redline re the diff cooler. He's hopefully wrapping up the R&D this week on mine. __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

06-17-2009, 01:30 PM	#292 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	Personally, I don't think you should focus on aero just yet. Aero doesn't replace a well setup car with balanced brakes and balanced mechanical grip. I dont think you are done with all the stuff that can and should be done on that front. I think you should focus on having a bulletproof cooling and drivetrain system. Without those you cant drive. Once you can drive it, then focus on having a perfect suspension setup and stiffening up the chassis. Once thats done, setup the braking. Once the car is SOLID all around, then start adding balanced aero parts...nice big adjustable front splitter + nice big high wing.

06-17-2009, 01:58 PM	#295 (permalink)
phelan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Age: 38 Posts: 9,513 Drives: Scoobaroo Rep Power: 3406	^ Do tell if that works. You already know my interest in the Zeta III seats...

06-23-2009, 12:41 PM	#299 (permalink)
M.Bonanni The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2,575 Drives: Fast Rep Power: 1321	Couldn't wait any longer. Hotchkis sways and SPC front camber arms ordered. Also the Carbonetic LSD going in as we speak! __________________ MikeBonanni.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/MikeBonanni Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/MBonanni36 Function > Form

06-23-2009, 01:03 PM	#300 (permalink)
Caravanshaka I shake Caravans Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: north Dallas Posts: 9,517 Drives: everyone crazy Rep Power: 42	Nice, are you going to ask to see the original lsd to see how badly you chewed it up on the track?