I'm Italian too, so no it's not!

This one?

Toshiba 84L9300U 84-Inch 4k Ultra HD 240Hz 3D Smart LED HDTV (Black with gun metal trim):Amazon:Electronics

Lol I know it is. I saw it. Used to work there too so I have my hookups...

But yeah the mark up is retarded. Basically these 55" screens are costing no more than what 1080p 3d led panels. The price drop off will happen by next fall I think.

that TV is baller!

Well played then lol

Ill give u a good deal if you want one lol

Guaranteed they drop off once the tech is a year old and not the big new thing. Why do you think in tryin to make a few dollars off it now ;) I need Z parts son lol

oh man, this has a lot of potential to be a really awesome game! Despite not entirely agreeing with the direction the Alien franchise went I still love the universe it has become but I'm really existed to see the Alien getting back to its full glory in the original movie.

Alien: Isolation preview: hands-on with Creative Assembly's ambitious sci-fi horror | PC Gamer

Alien: Isolation trailers reveal the gloomy terror of Creative Assembly's upcoming horror | PC Gamer

duuuuude, even after a "good deal" its so not on the horizon for me.. maybe a few years down the road.:p

Yea paying 10 or more stacks for a tv is a lot haha

So to all of the hardcore pc guys in here do any of you guys use steam? And also have you been following CES and all the "steam machines" people have been announcing? I'm not a pc guy at all but this all seems interesting.

fuuuck yeah it is, maybe if I was a pro athlete.

Shiiiiiiiit that's a stg 2 twin turbo kit for the Z lol

You're exactly the type of person they are marketing these boxes to! I think the biggest problem they will have initially is getting people to develop games for linux (SteamOS runs on a variant of linux). But I have a feeling developers will be happy to shed the world of Microsoft and DirectX its just going to take some time.

I'm personally most excited about a streaming machine. All the current SteamBoxes are equipped with fairly hefty hardware. I want to use my own personal computer I built to run the games and then use a very small form factor pc at my TV to stream the games. This is what I am excited for the most to date. the controller sounds interesting and I'm willing to give it a go but I have my doubts.

yes i agree. i myslef or any hardcore console gamer is their main target. i think most of the hardcore PC guys arent trying to have a "living room" experience on a TV or anything but then again you have PC gamers who use 42"+ monitors for gaming. essentially it's the same thing then lol

as for the linux stuff i could honestly care less lol that never really interested me in getting over a battle between it or MS/DX. although you can say i back MS/DX since i am a big xbox fanboy and xbox got its name from using the direct "X" system lol

my main gripe with steam and that whole thing is that it's basically like the hipster equilvilant of gaming. it's all about early alphas/betas and who played it first nonsense. also they do run some awesome deals on older/other games as well so dont get me wrong there. it is a nice platform of gaming and ways to access/obtain games. i still just find it laughable about the early offering stuff. i guess im a older gamer since i still think when i buy a game it should be you know finished lol but i do love with online stuff now they can update games with rosters for sports games and new maps/game types. i just hate things like GTA needing a million patches to run correctly. thats just awful to me but i still love the game lol

My tl;dr on the steam machine situation is that they are basically Alienware with a fancy proprietary OS but without the suck. They are dedicated gaming machines.

Unfortunately for Cody, you can't use them to play LoL or DotA.

some new thing Razor is making looks disgusting. it's a modular PC set-up with parts you just snap into a main tower piece. i dont PC game much at all but this set-up just looks awesome. even has a LCD screen for hardware statuses and maintence info.

Razer Re-invents Gaming Desktops with the World's Most Modular PC Concept Design | Razer™ | For Gamers. By Gamers.™

:bowrofl::bowrofl:

still can't afford that damn sh1t.:icon17:

It didn't used to be like that. I've been on steam for 10+ years and the whole greenlight, alpha/beta early access junk is recent within the past year. I'm right there with you, I don't buy games until they're fully released.

The nice thing about steam is that it downloads and applies the updates for you automatically. A patch on a console usually means something is seriously broken because the developers have to pay MS to release a patch. A patch on a pc game is usually expanding the content of the game but not always.

All of those boxes are FUGLY too. I don't understand why no one has anything decent looking yet. I will likely be building my own small form factor pc and dual booting windows and SteamOS on it for my media center.

I would imagine DOTA is going to be ported to linux since Valve owns the game now I believe. Just really a matter of time to get developer buy in.

sell the s2k lol

[QUOTE=4r3s;2642169]It didn't used to be like that. I've been on steam for 10+ years and the whole greenlight, alpha/beta early access junk is recent within the past year. I'm right there with you, I don't buy games until they're fully released.

The nice thing about steam is that it downloads and applies the updates for you automatically. A patch on a console usually means something is seriously broken because the developers have to pay MS to release a patch. A patch on a pc game is usually expanding the content of the game but not always.
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well with the xbox one now and the low power standby mode it'll automatically download and apply updates while it is "off" and you're not home or playin etc... which is nice because soemtimes with like COD and the new playlists/maps the updates on 360 would take anywhere from 5-20 minutes or so. when you take the time to download a whole map pack the last thing you want is more wait time for the playlist patch lol.

the Halo 3 beta may have been one of the only betas i was ok with it lol it was amazing and to be honest it didnt feel like a beta at all. that was more or less a "hey heres the MP. go play it tell us what sucks and what is good." it was the community having a voice in the final product. the early stuff on steam is bascially you paying to be a tester lol it's a very clever way these low-level start up game designers are getting around costs and taking advantage of gaming retards wanting to be "on the cutting edge and forefront" of gaming aka being gaming hipsters lol.

The idea is cool that just about anyone could build a nice computer with this solution but sooner than later the backbone is going to become obsolete and have to be replaced. The architectures change so fast because they have to keep up with all the new chipsets for new processor families.

still looks awesome though lol

also reminds me of the block phone idea. seriously one of the best ideas i've seen.

hey, it very well could be an excellent product for all I know. I'm just naturally pessimistic about these kinds of things.

i'm partially that way as well lol

Off topic...bought a Dell Venue 8 Pro yesterday. using it for mostly media and ecutek.lol

And Mark is 100% right I needs mah LoL. Steam box is going to be fantastic.

steambox? try steam boxs lol there was like 10 big name ones annouced at CES already.

Lol I know. Im just generalizing.

i'm still gonna stick with my Xbox one lol not trying to pay over a grand for some of these nicer steam machines.

Yeah I feel you. IM looking to get the Dell P28 4k monitor this Summer. GOing to need a lot of new hardware )=

Changing out the motherboard/CPU/ram should be pretty easy though

Uh..DotA can't be played on the Steam Machine because it's geared towards console gaming. DotA can't be played with a controller - it requires a keyboard/mouse.

Apparently, it's a running joke around Valve HQ

I feel like you mean pc gaming in your first sentence? I thought their new fangled controller was supposed to supplant the keyboard and mouse?

All I was getting at is that at some point the buses are going to be too small for the processor/memory/etc and its going to require additional pins. typically this happens when there are new processors being released that use a new socket type offering new features. Pretty much anytime you upgrade your cpu you are going to need to build a new computer. That's been my experience at least.

PC Gamer gives a little more detail on Razer's modular computer
Razer CEO hopes Project Christine will make upgrades easy for casual gamers | PC Gamer

Most notable take aways:
They say the modules are not proprietary but you have to buy them from Razer. uhh what? sounds like Apple to me.

Hardware is sold on a subscription basis. Everyone wants you to pay a monthly fee for everything now a days. I get why they like it but I can't stand that ish.

Well this is interesting...
CES: Vizio 4K TVs Will Start at $999 for the 50-inch Model - IGN

I might actually buy that at $1k even with the limited content.

Now THAT is awesome.. hopefully the better manufactures like Sony and Samsung, slash their prices.

Good article on Valve and SteamOS/Steam Machines.
Valve plays the long game again • Opinions • PC • Eurogamer.net

Dell's affordable 4K screen is a compromise too far for PC gaming | PC Gamer

I have a feeling all the early "cheap" 4k monitors are going to play the same tricks in order to keep costs down.

One of the biggest arguments or complaints I keep hearing about steamOS is that there are no games available for it yet. I don't understand this. The PS4 at launch had 11 games available. SteamOS isn't even officially released yet and there are 400+ games on steam that run on Linux.

What am I missing here?