[QUOTE=4r3s;2642169]It didn't used to be like that. I've been on steam for 10+ years and the whole greenlight, alpha/beta early access junk is recent within the past year. I'm right there with you, I don't buy games until they're fully released.

The nice thing about steam is that it downloads and applies the updates for you automatically. A patch on a console usually means something is seriously broken because the developers have to pay MS to release a patch. A patch on a pc game is usually expanding the content of the game but not always.
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well with the xbox one now and the low power standby mode it'll automatically download and apply updates while it is "off" and you're not home or playin etc... which is nice because soemtimes with like COD and the new playlists/maps the updates on 360 would take anywhere from 5-20 minutes or so. when you take the time to download a whole map pack the last thing you want is more wait time for the playlist patch lol.

the Halo 3 beta may have been one of the only betas i was ok with it lol it was amazing and to be honest it didnt feel like a beta at all. that was more or less a "hey heres the MP. go play it tell us what sucks and what is good." it was the community having a voice in the final product. the early stuff on steam is bascially you paying to be a tester lol it's a very clever way these low-level start up game designers are getting around costs and taking advantage of gaming retards wanting to be "on the cutting edge and forefront" of gaming aka being gaming hipsters lol.

The idea is cool that just about anyone could build a nice computer with this solution but sooner than later the backbone is going to become obsolete and have to be replaced. The architectures change so fast because they have to keep up with all the new chipsets for new processor families.

still looks awesome though lol

also reminds me of the block phone idea. seriously one of the best ideas i've seen.

hey, it very well could be an excellent product for all I know. I'm just naturally pessimistic about these kinds of things.

i'm partially that way as well lol

Off topic...bought a Dell Venue 8 Pro yesterday. using it for mostly media and ecutek.lol

And Mark is 100% right I needs mah LoL. Steam box is going to be fantastic.

steambox? try steam boxs lol there was like 10 big name ones annouced at CES already.

Lol I know. Im just generalizing.

i'm still gonna stick with my Xbox one lol not trying to pay over a grand for some of these nicer steam machines.

Yeah I feel you. IM looking to get the Dell P28 4k monitor this Summer. GOing to need a lot of new hardware )=

Changing out the motherboard/CPU/ram should be pretty easy though

Uh..DotA can't be played on the Steam Machine because it's geared towards console gaming. DotA can't be played with a controller - it requires a keyboard/mouse.

Apparently, it's a running joke around Valve HQ

I feel like you mean pc gaming in your first sentence? I thought their new fangled controller was supposed to supplant the keyboard and mouse?

All I was getting at is that at some point the buses are going to be too small for the processor/memory/etc and its going to require additional pins. typically this happens when there are new processors being released that use a new socket type offering new features. Pretty much anytime you upgrade your cpu you are going to need to build a new computer. That's been my experience at least.

PC Gamer gives a little more detail on Razer's modular computer
Razer CEO hopes Project Christine will make upgrades easy for casual gamers | PC Gamer

Most notable take aways:
They say the modules are not proprietary but you have to buy them from Razer. uhh what? sounds like Apple to me.

Hardware is sold on a subscription basis. Everyone wants you to pay a monthly fee for everything now a days. I get why they like it but I can't stand that ish.