Okay, so you want to compare a 63 year old franchise (in 1996) to a brand new team. That seems pretty fair to me. :icon17:

Here you go, 9 playoff appearances, 4 division titles, 2 afc championships and 2 superbowls.

I am pretty good with comparing those stats.

We should probably take this to the off topic thread. I can hear Steve grinding his teeth from here. :icon17:

Well if we're talking about accomplishments since 2000, how about 5 Super Bowl appearances, 3 Super Bowl championships, 11 playoff experiences, and 10 division titles? :tiphat:

This conversation is totally bbq related :p

they arent brand new though technically lol but 96-present stats for both teams. we win still :tiphat:

Your thread, you're the boss :tiphat:

I think my team wins the 96-present battle

I'll allow It :tup:

:iagree::iagree:

:rofl2:

About as new as you can get. They really started over from scratch.

Yes, you're currently in the lead, but barely. :icon17:

argument isnt valid. you're from MD. so you liking the pats is bandwagon in my eyes. i'm born, raised, and still here repping the same team through good and bad. :tiphat:

or take this to the NFL thread lol

I would hate to break the turbo so soon. haha

I was born in Rhode Island, I should be a Patriots fan, but im not.. Dolphins through the good and the lots of bad.. since 5 years old.

well played sir :tiphat:

thats fine i just like busting shahid's balls about liking the pats since they are the bandwagon team of the NFL :bowrofl:

Ohh I believe Shahid is a fair weather fan.. haha...

:bowrofl::bowrofl:

i feel this BBQ will be filled with lots of football hatred lol