[MAZOC] Official "Off-Topic" Discussion Thread

[eastwest2300]

Happy Thanksgiving MAZOC..

Lets remember our friends, past & present.

God bless Tony and Jim and their families. We miss them more than words could ever say.

[m4a1mustang]

Amen brother

[KoolKarmaJoe]

Originally Posted by eastwest2300

Happy Thanksgiving MAZOC..

Lets remember our friends, past & present.

God bless Tony and Jim and their families. We miss them more than words could ever say.

How's the weather in your area? Have you put dedicated "winter tires" on your Z, or is she going to hibernate the winter?

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[eastwest2300]

Originally Posted by KoolKarmaJoe

How's the weather in your area? Have you put dedicated "winter tires" on your Z, or is she going to hibernate the winter?

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Brother, winter has been nice to everyone, we're lucky (so far).

As far as the Z, I finished up with my BBK upgrade... I took today off, and pulled the Z out the garage, washed her up real nice, and took some photos...

[eastwest2300]

[Crux]

I recorded some footage from my last HPDE at Summit Point Main. I was finally solo'd for the last session and it went well. My instructor agreed with my previous instructor to bump me up to HPDE2, and I'm pretty excited to run with those guys. There are some fast drivers in HPDE2.

I've been practicing shuffle steering, but now I'm being told not to do that, but instead hold at 9 and 3 I assume a well-rounded driver knows each technique and applies them in the proper situation.

I still need major work on turn in, specifically on turns 1 and 10; and work on throttle application on corner exit. My instructor tells me I can push 10 more mph in turn 1, but i feel the front drivers tire is at max grip and beginning to plow.

I experienced fuel starve mid turn 3 and turn 9 #almostkilledmyself (not in the video). Talk about terrifying. Time to give phunk a call. After it happened, as soon as i noticed 2 "dots" missing on the gauge, I'd begin my cool down laps and pit. The extra few laps weren't worth wrecking/causing someone else to wreck/causing injury.

Any input/advice is appreciated!

[MightyBobo]

Fuel starvation in the Z is a joke..that pissed me off.

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[KoolKarmaJoe]

Originally Posted by Crux

I recorded some footage from my last HPDE at Summit Point Main. I was finally solo'd for the last session and it went well. My instructor agreed with my previous instructor to bump me up to HPDE2, and I'm pretty excited to run with those guys. There are some fast drivers in HPDE2.

I've been practicing shuffle steering, but now I'm being told not to do that, but instead hold at 9 and 3 I assume a well-rounded driver knows each technique and applies them in the proper situation.

I still need major work on turn in, specifically on turns 1 and 10; and work on throttle application on corner exit. My instructor tells me I can push 10 more mph in turn 1, but i feel the front drivers tire is at max grip and beginning to plow.

I experienced fuel starve mid turn 3 and turn 9 #almostkilledmyself (not in the video). Talk about terrifying. Time to give phunk a call. After it happened, as soon as i noticed 2 "dots" missing on the gauge, I'd begin my cool down laps and pit. The extra few laps weren't worth wrecking/causing someone else to wreck/causing injury.

Any input/advice is appreciated!

Very, very, cool! Thanks for posting video.

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[MightyBobo]

Originally Posted by Crux

I recorded some footage from my last HPDE at Summit Point Main. I was finally solo'd for the last session and it went well. My instructor agreed with my previous instructor to bump me up to HPDE2, and I'm pretty excited to run with those guys. There are some fast drivers in HPDE2.

I've been practicing shuffle steering, but now I'm being told not to do that, but instead hold at 9 and 3 I assume a well-rounded driver knows each technique and applies them in the proper situation.

I still need major work on turn in, specifically on turns 1 and 10; and work on throttle application on corner exit. My instructor tells me I can push 10 more mph in turn 1, but i feel the front drivers tire is at max grip and beginning to plow.

I experienced fuel starve mid turn 3 and turn 9 #almostkilledmyself (not in the video). Talk about terrifying. Time to give phunk a call. After it happened, as soon as i noticed 2 "dots" missing on the gauge, I'd begin my cool down laps and pit. The extra few laps weren't worth wrecking/causing someone else to wreck/causing injury.

Any input/advice is appreciated!

Finally got to watch some of your video, Crux.

I see a lot of wheel movement mid-corner. You need to work on avoiding that - pick your steering angle, and use your throttle to steer the car. Also, your hand shuffling is a bit awkward...you're doing it right as you begin turning your wheel. May want to do it before you actually begin your turn-in...

Also, you're kinda dogging the car out in a high gear. You were taking corners that were clearly 2nd gear corners, in 3rd or even 4th sometimes it seemed. Just what it felt like, to me.

That's about all I had.

[ZCarMan]

Just had a chance to watch the video of the SpaceX Falcon 9 launch from last night. Watching them land the first stage back at the Cape was history in the making. Makes me feel like when I was six and watching the lunar landing on the moon. Cool stuff for sure. America has always been the country that innovates and this is a great example.

[eastwest2300]

That was really neat..

[takjak2]

Originally Posted by Crux

I've been practicing shuffle steering, but now I'm being told not to do that, but instead hold at 9 and 3 I assume a well-rounded driver knows each technique and applies them in the proper situation.

Any input/advice is appreciated!

Get rid of that Underarmor shirt! Somewhere in the paperwork they told you to wear cotton. Poly materials will melt to you in case of a fire. Bad bad.

"Shuffling" to steer isn't a great technique, but one thing it does do is position your hands at 9-3 mid-corner. See this at 0:18 to 0:21 and 4:43-:53 in your video. From there you have better control than if you started at 9-3 and rotated the wheel so that your hands are now 12-6. Some drivers will pre-position their hands, so that as they come into the turn they'll move their hands to 6-12 so that they rotate into 9-3.

As I have been driving longer stints (1-2 hours straight) in preparation for endurance racing, I am reminded that pulling is much easier for our muscles than pushing. Imagine a right turn with your hands at 9-3. Pull down with the right hand rather than push up/away with your left.

You can improve by getting the wheel straight at the exit of turns much (1.5 sec) earlier all the way around the track. In HPDE it feels nice to maintain the lateral G-force, but that is scrub angle when you should straighten up and be hard on the throttle.

Turn 1: In our cars, apex a little later, open the wheel, and end up on the outside of turn 1. Full throttle all the way out. Ending up on the inside of 2 is not the fastest line.

One trick is to look for dirt patches where the grass won't grow, off track. That is where the fast cars are [often] dropping a wheel. There is one on the outside of turn 1 (similar at VIR) by the access road.

Turn 10: At 4:15 the instructor tells you to brake a little too early IMO (and he may be anticipating the delay), and you brake more than necessary. Our cars have some of the best braking out there. Go deep, press hard, clench butt.

Keep it up!

[eastwest2300]

Merry Christmas MAZOC, have a blessed day, always remember the true meaning of Christmas!

[ZCarMan]

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone!

[KoolKarmaJoe]

Merry Christmas Everyone! And have a Happy New Year!

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