[MAZOC] Official "Off-Topic" Discussion Thread

[MyKindaGuise]

Originally Posted by eastwest2300

sounds like an event to bring the lady and nismo in the s2000.. (with no mods)

Its a blast. Def wroth going to atleast once. Its almost impossible to explain how it feels to be there. The atmosphere is like nothing I have ever expereinced. Everything you can imagine is there...Ferrari F40s, W8 Passats, GTRs, Turbo Dodge Charger, old muscle cars, all of the stancy nancy VWs and hondas s2ks, Zs, mini trucks...etc. The nice thing was that no one seemed to be really hateful. It seemed that no matter what you were driving everyone was there to just have a good time with each other.

[MyKindaGuise]

BTW I now have a spare long block if anyone needs any parts for their 370.

[eastwest2300]

Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise

Its a blast. Def wroth going to atleast once. Its almost impossible to explain how it feels to be there. The atmosphere is like nothing I have ever expereinced. Everything you can imagine is there...Ferrari F40s, W8 Passats, GTRs, Turbo Dodge Charger, old muscle cars, all of the stancy nancy VWs and hondas s2ks, Zs, mini trucks...etc. The nice thing was that no one seemed to be really hateful. It seemed that no matter what you were driving everyone was there to just have a good time with each other.

Im in! when is this event?

[MyKindaGuise]

They havent posted dates for next year since it just ended.

[eastwest2300]

Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise

They havent posted dates for next year since it just ended.

cool, thanks dude...

[dmhenderson]

Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise

Let me clear some things up.

They do not impound your car for anything other than unsafe camber...meaning if all tread is not in contact with the road or if its more than -3.5 degrees.

No, this is wrong. Anything deemed "unsafe" will get your car impounded. The definition of "unsafe" is pretty vague so I suppose it would depend on who pulled you over.
I Can't Stop Staring At This Instagram Of Cops Pulling Over Stanced Cars

The media/internet is making this out to be a horrible event.

Nah, there's some demonizing going on but mostly it is what it is. I don't see any wild accusations flying around. It is what it is. A bunch of import enthusiasts (mostly kids) get together over a weekend and look at cars. Some of them do stupid unsafe **** and the police ticket (and sometimes impound) thousands of vehicles.

Almost everyone plans a ticket budget as well. Its really no big deal to have a few out of state tickets.

Except that MD, DC and VA (along with Delaware) share points etc so that doesn't really work out for many people who post here.

They really only go after the stance crowd to be honest. Plenty of cars louder than my Z there that had no issue.

See the link above. Many, many people got tickets for exhaust noise/modification, exposed intercoolers, ride height, and a bevy of other stupid crap including that "poor" F40.

I honestly had a great time doing burnouts and drifting U turns and rolling with a fun and energetic crowd. There wasnt one car I couldnt pull up to in traffic and hold a conversation with the driver and his passengers. And the amount of locals that came out and sat in lawn chairs along the streets to watch the cars go by was shocking. A lot of elderly people were out and about.

Acting the fool on public roads isn't my thing I guess. The atmosphere is cool though.

The town will probably never put a stop to this event. Hotels couldve sold out twice over...the police make a 2 month quota in 2 days. Money talks.

Of course they won't but the city won't stop targeting the event until the organizers change their tune and maybe work with the city instead of the "lol F you" approach.

[eastwest2300]

So mark I take it you won't be making it out any time soon?

[dmhenderson]

I've been to two H2O(s). Once back when it was a predominately euro import event and once again 3 years ago. I won't be going back.

Not knocking it - it's a lot of fun but there are a *lot* of idiots that are ruining the event and the lack of cooperation from the event organizers is going to hurt it in the long run.

[Asheth]

I have never been, but I feel there is a middle ground for the event. I may have gotten pulled over for no front plate I would have passed everything else. I see the one side like what Mark is saying and the other side. There is a Facebook group MCM Maryland car meets and their was plenty of live information being put out but most seemed to enjoy the event.

I'll be going next year to see for myself, I'll probably being to cruise week next weekend since I hear it's a similar atmosphere.

[dmhenderson]

Again, I'm not trying to talk you out of going but it's a crap shoot. If your car is modified, you risk ticketing/impounding. Even Cody said that people come "with a ticket budget" which is about the dumbest sh*t I've ever heard. Do you enjoy giving money away? I don't.

There are tons of enthusiast events where people don't act like dipshits. This just isn't one of them. I'm sure if I were 18-25 I would love it too.

[b1adesofcha0s]

Originally Posted by dmhenderson

Again, I'm not trying to talk you out of going but it's a crap shoot. If your car is modified, you risk ticketing/impounding. Even Cody said that people come "with a ticket budget" which is about the dumbest sh*t I've ever heard. Do you enjoy giving money away? I don't.

There are tons of enthusiast events where people don't act like dipshits. This just isn't one of them. I'm sure if I were 18-25 I would love it too.

[MightyBobo]

Originally Posted by dmhenderson

Even Cody said that people come "with a ticket budget" which is about the dumbest sh*t I've ever heard. Do you enjoy giving money away? I don't.

Glad I didn't have to say it.

[MyKindaGuise]

Originally Posted by dmhenderson

No, this is wrong. Anything deemed "unsafe" will get your car impounded. The definition of "unsafe" is pretty vague so I suppose it would depend on who pulled you over.
I Can't Stop Staring At This Instagram Of Cops Pulling Over Stanced Cars

A modified exhaust is not unsafe. I literally spoke to police about what they are focusing and it was all extremely low/extreme camber

Nah, there's some demonizing going on but mostly it is what it is. I don't see any wild accusations flying around. It is what it is. A bunch of import enthusiasts (mostly kids) get together over a weekend and look at cars. Some of them do stupid unsafe **** and the police ticket (and sometimes impound) thousands of vehicles.


Except that MD, DC and VA (along with Delaware) share points etc so that doesn't really work out for many people who post here.

That sucks

See the link above. Many, many people got tickets for exhaust noise/modification, exposed intercoolers, ride height, and a bevy of other stupid crap including that "poor" F40.

The link you posted showed a stock F40 and a car with a missing front bumper. Have a properly modified vehicle and you most likely wont get hit. My BMW has a viewable intercooler stock and I didnt get pulled over.


Of course they won't but the city won't stop targeting the event until the organizers change their tune and maybe work with the city instead of the "lol F you" approach.

Why should it be their problem? H2O owners cannot help that a bunch of other car enthuisasts stay in a town somewhat near the show. They send out a message on social medias and website promoting safe behavior and to be respectful but you cannot control a persons actions. Most of these people dont even go to the show they just show up for a weekend in OCMD.

I see why you guys think a ticket budget is dumb but alot of people go down there to let off steam and have one last big hoorah. For the points exempt people they know they can act a fool/show off a bit more because its just money...Id rather plan accordingly incase some cop does deside to be a jerk and pull you over for say...not wearing a seat belt and add on too low, too loud, no front plate, you scraped back there...etc.

I dont really condone all of this reckless behavior but there are a lot of hypocrites in here. Ive seen how some members of MAZOC would drive during these "Cruises" and its about the same as what you see at this event except people know what will be happening during H2O.

[MyKindaGuise]

From ocean cities website

According to OCPD Public Affairs Specialist Lindsay O’Neal, officers and citizens made 2,148 calls for service from Sept. 25 to 28, comparable to 2,207 over the Thursday-Sunday span last year. Arrests this year totaled 51 versus 54 last year.

But these numbers are well in line with other automotive events. Earlier this year, Spring Cruisin’ logged 2,138 calls for service and 50 arrests over the same four-day stretch, O’Neal reported.

Oh my the are in line and similar to other car events there. Clearly this young h2o crowd is the worst. Also the H2o weekend had less arrests and services calls than non car events such as Dew Tour.

[dmhenderson]

More drunken idiots at the Dew tour. Most people are smart enough not to get hammered and drag race down Coastal Highway (hopefully).

How is "arrested" being used here? "Arrested" as in "traffic stops" or "arrested" as in "taken to jail"?