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MyKindaGuise 06-12-2013 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2359914)
Attachment 70951


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Already posted in my cubical.

dmhenderson 06-12-2013 03:10 PM

As in you just printed it out or you had this before I posted it?

dmhenderson 06-12-2013 03:11 PM

Also, fun fact of the day regarding aftermarket headlights:

If you're going to run relays through the back of the housings, you ABSOLUTELY CANNOT TUG/PULL/PUT PRESSURE on the seals around the relay/resistor wires because the seals will break and you will get foggy headlights.

D&V accidentally broke them, Daedalus fixed them for free (100% free)

MyKindaGuise 06-12-2013 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2359936)
As in you just printed it out or you had this before I posted it?

printed it out haha

MightyBobo 06-12-2013 03:24 PM

Made it back from Buffalo safe. Did the entire 400 miles in 6 hour and 15 minutes, approximately (not counting my single 45 minute stop).

Yes, I hauled ***.

m4a1mustang 06-12-2013 03:27 PM

No you didn't. That's only 64 mph.

MightyBobo 06-12-2013 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2359970)
No you didn't. That's only 64 mph.

(a good portion of the run is <55 MPH speed limits)

I was doing ~90 on 83 almost the entire way from Harrisburg.

m4a1mustang 06-12-2013 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 2359973)
(a good portion of the run is <55 MPH speed limits)

I was doing ~90 on 83 almost the entire way from Harrisburg.

Hauling *** = 100+ mph average.

MightyBobo 06-12-2013 03:31 PM

Also, I saw the coolest thing ever just south of Harrisburg, and I'd have stopped to grab a photo of it if I wasn't in busy as hell traffic.

One of those helicopters used for inspecting power lines was hovering maybe 150ish feet above the road and the guy was working on the power line nearby. Was cool as hell to see that close.

MightyBobo 06-12-2013 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2359974)
Hauling *** = 100+ mph average.

I didn't want to blow my nitrous too soon, junior.

m4a1mustang 06-12-2013 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 2359975)
Also, I saw the coolest thing ever just south of Harrisburg, and I'd have stopped to grab a photo of it if I wasn't in busy as hell traffic.

One of those helicopters used for inspecting power lines was hovering maybe 150ish feet above the road and the guy was working on the power line nearby. Was cool as hell to see that close.

In 2011 or 2012 our ZDayZ caravan passed one of those on 81. It was hella cool.

Red__Zed 06-12-2013 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 2359967)
Made it back from Buffalo safe. Did the entire 400 miles in 6 hour and 15 minutes, approximately (not counting my single 45 minute stop).

Yes, I hauled ***.

in b4 ban:icon17:

Sales@AAMComp 06-12-2013 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise (Post 2359822)
Forged in fiery pits of Mordor.




Did you guys see Visconti's new pricing and release? $975 for a non dyno tuned setup? haha. No wonder they weren't responding to me. They jacked the price up $400.

is that comparable to buying an uprev tuner? If so that isn't bad, uprev tuner is $700 without any kind of e-tune or support

Sales@AAMComp 06-12-2013 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2359863)
Hopefully I won't need anything more complicated than an update to my Uprev tune once the SC goes in.

will be all fresh maps since your fuel system is completely different, I would be curious to see what Moore charges for your tune

eastwest2300 06-12-2013 04:11 PM

It could be well over $500..

XwChriswX 06-12-2013 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Khoi@AAMComp (Post 2360027)
is that comparable to buying an uprev tuner? If so that isn't bad, uprev tuner is $700 without any kind of e-tune or support

So he's paying $200 for the name. :ugh2:

dmhenderson 06-12-2013 06:33 PM

I already have my install and tune price set and I got a very good deal.

MyKindaGuise 06-12-2013 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Khoi@AAMComp (Post 2360027)
is that comparable to buying an uprev tuner? If so that isn't bad, uprev tuner is $700 without any kind of e-tune or support

Yeah but with that I could atleast make adjustments myself. From what I heard it was $400 for cable and software. SO a lot of overhead on that tune.lol

XwChriswX 06-12-2013 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise (Post 2360272)
Yeah but with that I could atleast make adjustments myself. From what I heard it was $400 for cable and software. SO a lot of overhead on that tune.lol

Did you see Visconti's thread? Maybe he's back now so you can get in touch with him?

MyKindaGuise 06-12-2013 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2360285)
Did you see Visconti's thread? Maybe he's back now so you can get in touch with him?

Nope don't even care. I sent multiple PM's and emails. And even had my GTR buddy who is good friends with John give my number. I don't care. Business lost. Already am working with RT on a schedule and a full FI dyno tune is still cheaper than Visconti's "stage1" tune.

XwChriswX 06-12-2013 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise (Post 2360291)
Nope don't even care. I sent multiple PM's and emails. And even had my GTR buddy who is good friends with John give my number. I don't care. Business lost. Already am working with RT on a schedule and a full FI dyno tune is still cheaper than Visconti's "stage1" tune.

:tup:

NO SHIT!! I saw the price of that thing, I was thinking maybe $700-800, but almost $1k for a cable?!!? And a cheap tune... come on man, you're even admitting the publicity stunt you pulled is not true?!

:shakes head:


Good on ya for RT. :tup:

MyKindaGuise 06-12-2013 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2360301)
:tup:

NO SHIT!! I saw the price of that thing, I was thinking maybe $700-800, but almost $1k for a cable?!!? And a cheap tune... come on man, you're even admitting the publicity stunt you pulled is not true?!

:shakes head:


Good on ya for RT. :tup:

Not entirely. What I was saying and going on about was information legitimately given to me. But looks like that was false. Straight up they told me $600 for NA until I did my project and then retune on a local dyno for free...well paying the local dyno of course.lol

They also did have really good gains over uprev on the one car I saw. About +10whp over all but that was just ecutek vs uprev ignition timing. I would go with Visconti knowing how well they do in the GTR market but they need to remember...we don't drive gtr's. A $1000 tune is exceptable on a $100k car...not a $30k car.

RT all day. Vince tunes with Ecutek and uprev day in and day out constantly. Following their facebook and instagram will prove that. But with him knowing both softwares inside and out and having constant use of them makes me really comfortable going to them. The plan was to go to them anyways but then Visconti showed up with a good offer, that was taken away so now its back to RT who I never should've left out on my project. Ive learned my lesson. Im pretty shop loyal now. They hook me up on price matching parts like no other.

Also Vince has tuned Mr. Squeeze's car. just something to keep in mind :tiphat:

XwChriswX 06-12-2013 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise (Post 2360329)
Not entirely. What I was saying and going on about was information legitimately given to me. But looks like that was false. Straight up they told me $600 for NA until I did my project and then retune on a local dyno for free...well paying the local dyno of course.lol

They also did have really good gains over uprev on the one car I saw. About +10whp over all but that was just ecutek vs uprev ignition timing. I would go with Visconti in a heart beat knowing how well they do in the GTR market but they need to remember...we don't drive gtr's. A $1000 tune is exceptable on a $100k car...not a $30k car.

RT all day. Vince tunes with Ecutek and uprev day in and day out constantly. Following their facebook and instagram will prove that. But with him knowing both softwares inside and out and having constant use of them makes me really comfortable going to them. The plan was to go to them anyways but then Visconti showed up with a good offer, that was taken away so now its back to RT who I never should've left out on my project.

Also Vince has tuned Mr. Squeeze's car. just something to keep in mind :tiphat:

Oh I watch RT's FB a lot, which is why I feel good with them. :tup:

The ECUTek thread just said they didn't see any gains from VVEL with N/A. Which was one of their primary fluff points over UpRev is that they could change that. :ugh2:

Maybe there's a reason UpRev doesn't do it, is that it doesn't give you gains... :ugh2:

MyKindaGuise 06-12-2013 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2360335)
Oh I watch RT's FB a lot, which is why I feel good with them. :tup:

The ECUTek thread just said they didn't see any gains from VVEL with N/A. Which was one of their primary fluff points over UpRev is that they could change that. :ugh2:

Maybe there's a reason UpRev doesn't do it, is that it doesn't give you gains... :ugh2:

Yeah but they have also said they haven't toyed with it much. Not sure how much room there is to really play around with it. I really wish I had the extra 2k because I would just buy a vq37 off ebay and tell a shop to test it out. I wish a shop would just go and do that...or hell atleast uprev.

VVEL isn't a huge concern for me as my build plans have changed and I don't want much more than 500whp. Every penny spent from here on our will be for making it reliable and a track beast that can handle the power.

XwChriswX 06-12-2013 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise (Post 2360351)
Yeah but they have also said they haven't toyed with it much. Not sure how much room there is to really play around with it. I really wish I had the extra 2k because I would just buy a vq37 off ebay and tell a shop to test it out. I wish a shop would just go and do that...or hell atleast uprev.

VVEL isn't a huge concern for me as my build plans have changed and I don't want much more than 500whp. Every penny spent from here on our will be for making it reliable and a track beast that can handle the power.

:iagree: Same here. I don't want ungodly power as with the AT I'll never see it all on the road. What I want is the power to fully enjoy the car FI. 500 is a good even number, so I'm right there with you.

MyKindaGuise 06-12-2013 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2360359)
:iagree: Same here. I don't want ungodly power as with the AT I'll never see it all on the road. What I want is the power to fully enjoy the car FI. 500 is a good even number, so I'm right there with you.

500 isn't too hard to achieve. What makes it hard is the larger AT vs MT. If anyone every wanted us to do a build on an AT I would tell them to just buy the kit and we will install. We do have plans to turn my build into a kit and also a low mount TT setup. We also have a new system in the works that doesn't require oil catch cans...so stay posted. Pat also Cadded the intake manifold into Solidworks the other day...We believe it should be MUCH less expensive to custom a new IM than that crazy gtr retrofit.

Really we have a whole bunch of ideas...just limited by funding and time at this point. Also making sure there is an interest for our stuff is the other hard part.lol

XwChriswX 06-12-2013 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise (Post 2360382)
500 isn't too hard to achieve. What makes it hard is the larger AT vs MT. If anyone every wanted us to do a build on an AT I would tell them to just buy the kit and we will install. We do have plans to turn my build into a kit and also a low mount TT setup. We also have a new system in the works that doesn't require oil catch cans...so stay posted. Pat also Cadded the intake manifold into Solidworks the other day...We believe it should be MUCH less expensive to custom a new IM than that crazy gtr retrofit.

Really we have a whole bunch of ideas...just limited by funding and time at this point. Also making sure there is an interest for our stuff is the other hard part.lol

I'm keeping an eye on what all you're doing, as I do with all home builds. I hope it's a success. :tup: I know the AT is horrible for more power, but since my car was a DD I couldn't take a clutch in Phoenix traffic :ugh2:

dmhenderson 06-12-2013 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2360359)
:iagree: Same here. I don't want ungodly power as with the AT I'll never see it all on the road. What I want is the power to fully enjoy the car FI. 500 is a good even number, so I'm right there with you.

Yep, feel the same way.

dmhenderson 06-12-2013 07:51 PM

I would imagine that a ~500hp FI build is going to feel a little loose/dangerous off the line as it is, plus the stock block won't really handle much more than that anyway.

shadoquad 06-12-2013 07:55 PM

You guys are talking about reliable 500rwhp from a vq37vvel... Has it been done? I admit ignorance, I haven't followed the FI section in forever.

MyKindaGuise 06-12-2013 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 2360410)
You guys are talking about reliable 500rwhp from a vq37vvel... Has it been done? I admit ignorance, I haven't followed the FI section in forever.

Yeah a ton of guys have 20k+ boosted.

basically ill be beefing up my transmission goodies and doing a modest engine rebuild. about $1500 for transmission stuffs and another $2000 for internals and I have a local shop that can do the install. They did my friends 1800whp viper build :P And they are rebuilding for 2000ish.lol

MyKindaGuise 06-12-2013 07:58 PM

Drift guys are the coolest guys.
Some big names in this video though. Only way I can see this being allowed at the track haha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJSakvx3J2E

shadoquad 06-12-2013 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise (Post 2360416)
Yeah a ton of guys have 20k+ boosted.

basically ill be beefing up my transmission goodies and doing a modest engine rebuild. about $1500 for transmission stuffs and another $2000 for internals and I have a local shop that can do the install. They did my friends 1800whp viper build :P And they are rebuilding for 2000ish.lol

cool


as far as 2000ish hp, lol who needs that much power outside of dragsters? At some point it becomes just a number lolz

MyKindaGuise 06-12-2013 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 2360431)
cool


as far as 2000ish hp, lol who needs that much power outside of dragsters? At some point it becomes just a number lolz

haha pretty much what I say. He goes to the invitational only TX2k meet.

XwChriswX 06-12-2013 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 2360431)
cool


as far as 2000ish hp, lol who needs that much power outside of dragsters? At some point it becomes just a number lolz

HP #'s directly relate to the outer diameter of one's ballz.

So it are important to have big ballz.


:|

dmhenderson 06-12-2013 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 2360410)
You guys are talking about reliable 500rwhp from a vq37vvel... Has it been done? I admit ignorance, I haven't followed the FI section in forever.

Yes. Kirkster is running the same SC kit I will be running and he's had no issues. I will need a new clutch sooner or later but cross that bridge when I come to it.

b1adesofcha0s 06-12-2013 08:13 PM

Well the issue with FI'd Z's isn't really about makinh the power, it's putting that power down to the ground. I haven't really payed much attention to FI builds in a while, but from what i saw traction used to be the big issue. 500 whp is cool, but useless if the wheels are just spinning.

shadoquad 06-12-2013 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2360446)
Yes. Kirkster is running the same SC kit I will be running and he's had no issues. I will need a new clutch sooner or later but cross that bridge when I come to it.

I didn't think he was pushing 500 though

MyKindaGuise 06-12-2013 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 2360458)
Well the issue with FI'd Z's isn't really about makinh the power, it's putting that power down to the ground. I haven't really payed much attention to FI builds in a while, but from what i saw traction used to be the big issue. 500 whp is cool, but useless if the wheels are just spinning.

This is true but its all about driver control. And 90% of the FI guys seem to drag and not track so from a stand still the Z sucks. But Ecutek will change a lot of that with LC and TC.

dmhenderson 06-12-2013 08:17 PM

My directive to GTM was 500-550 so we'll see when it goes in I guess. New wheels may be a thing I have to do eventually but I'm avoiding it if at all possible


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