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MightyBobo 12-30-2015 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KoolKarmaJoe (Post 3378899)
That's why I want to work with a reputable shop who knows the goals I have planned. Let's face it a engine build is at least twice as expensive as just the super Charger depending on how much you want to spend. Putting a super Charger on a 90,000 mile + engine, when your the 2nd owner, could be disastrous! I want to build my Z smarter, by ensuring its foundation is solid.

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If you're talking about changing the bottom end out...you should do that when you get the supercharger done. Can get some big power that way...

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KoolKarmaJoe 12-30-2015 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 3378902)
If you're talking about changing the bottom end out...you should do that when you get the supercharger done. Can get some big power that way...

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Goal is power, hook-up, & handling not looks or comfort. Eventually turning my Z into a dedicated track car, that I may sneak-out on the street on Friday & Saturday nights to eat up Mustangs, Camaros, & at least run side by side stock GTR's. If I have to lose a/c so be it. It's a attainable goal because speed is just a question of how much you can afford to spend.

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MightyBobo 12-30-2015 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KoolKarmaJoe (Post 3378906)
Goal is power, hook-up, & handling not looks or comfort. Eventually turning my Z into a dedicated track car, that I may sneak-out on the street on Friday & Saturday nights to eat up Mustangs, Camaros, & at least run side by side stock GTR's. If I have to lose a/c so be it. It's a attainable goal because speed is just a question of how much you can afford to spend.

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Do a lower compression bottom end, custom turbo kit...IMHO. The Stillen supercharger kit seemed to be a huge let down, unless they fixed it...

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Red__Zed 12-31-2015 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by KoolKarmaJoe (Post 3378899)
That's why I want to work with a reputable shop who knows the goals I have planned. Let's face it a engine build is at least twice as expensive as just the super Charger depending on how much you want to spend. Putting a super Charger on a 90,000 mile + engine, when your the 2nd owner, could be disastrous! I want to build my Z smarter, by ensuring its foundation is solid.

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Yeah, but building an engine for boost and building an engine for power N/A are two diametrically opposite tasks.


You will probably want to drop your CR by 20% to boost it right - which means it'll be a slug without boost.

m4a1mustang 12-31-2015 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 3379063)
Yeah, but building an engine for boost and building an engine for power N/A are two diametrically opposite tasks.


You will probably want to drop your CR by 20% to boost it right - which means it'll be a slug without boost.

:iagree:

You have to pick one or the other.

KoolKarmaJoe 12-31-2015 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 3379064)
:iagree:

You have to pick one or the other.

There's always the NOS option too.

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MightyBobo 12-31-2015 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by KoolKarmaJoe (Post 3379117)
There's always the NOS option too.

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A lot less money to do that, certainly. Easier to remove and install, as well.

I don't know how this car responds to juice too well, though. And your gains will be limited by just how strong the bottom end is as well. I wouldn't spray more than a 100 shot, probably.

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MAMotorsports 12-31-2015 11:03 AM

Actually, these days dropping compression when adding boost do not always go hand in hand. Technology has come a long ways in the past few years and the boosted engines are really seeing the most of it. Without spending way to much time rambling, we are not dropping compression on the VQ37s unless the customer will be running 25+psi of boost at all times.

There is also a Flex fuel kit we are using now so that makes it even easier, as E85 and High Compression go hand in hand. So do a "low" boost tune on pump gas, and a high boost tune on E85 and you have one awesome street car. Most of the Fast Intentions cars we are doing retain 11:1 Compression ratio's right now.



As for KoolKarmaJoe, would love to work with you on your goals! Have fun out in LA, and shoot me a call after the Holidays and we can set up a time for you to stop by and I will be more than happy to show you around!

b1adesofcha0s 12-31-2015 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KoolKarmaJoe (Post 3379117)
There's always the NOS option too.

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Just don't hit it too soon junior.

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KoolKarmaJoe 12-31-2015 02:13 PM

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KoolKarmaJoe 12-31-2015 02:15 PM

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KoolKarmaJoe 12-31-2015 02:18 PM

I don't want my engine to end up like those pics. That's why I want to make sure the lower end built strong.

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MightyBobo 12-31-2015 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KoolKarmaJoe (Post 3379300)
I don't want my engine to end up like those pics. That's why I want to make sure the lower end built strong.

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Can easily do that even with a built bottom end, too.

I'm sure MAM can hook you up with a solid build and tune to go with it.

b1adesofcha0s 12-31-2015 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KoolKarmaJoe (Post 3379300)
I don't want my engine to end up like those pics. That's why I want to make sure the lower end built strong.

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They should have heeded the warning

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eastwest2300 12-31-2015 05:39 PM

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ouch.

:shakes head:


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