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eastwest2300 01-10-2014 07:00 AM

morning falkers.. :yawn:

4r3s 01-10-2014 09:19 AM

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Hey man, I knew your boys were gonna beat Ohio State. Im glad they came through.

Well, we certainly tried to lose that game more than once. Thankfully Ohio State tried harder to lose and won that battle. :tup:

The ACC finished the BCS era on a high note!

eastwest2300 01-10-2014 10:23 AM

That we did!:p

I have a former boss who is a huge Buckeye fan, so to see them lose to Clemson, was icing on the cake.

MightyBobo 01-10-2014 09:51 PM

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Wife and I said piss off to Verizon (mine) and AT&T (hers), tonight. Thanks for the fish, ********.

Also, this Nexus 5 is the ****.

eastwest2300 01-11-2014 07:30 AM

Your coverage might take a hit, I had Tmobile, and a buddy of mine worked at AT&T, Verizon, & Tmobile, and after the coverage issues I was having, I asked him out of all the carriers, which one had the BEST coverage, he said Verizon. When he told me that, I switched immediately.

Nice phone, hopefully you won't have any issues.

Red__Zed 01-11-2014 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 2646357)
Your coverage might take a hit, I had Tmobile, and a buddy of mine worked at AT&T, Verizon, & Tmobile, and after the coverage issues I was having, I asked him out of all the carriers, which one had the BEST coverage, he said Verizon. When he told me that, I switched immediately.

Nice phone, hopefully you won't have any issues.

Who has the best coverage depends on where you need the coverage.

I carry 2-3 phones on different carriers with me at all times and there's nothing close to a definitive "best coverage carrier"

Tmobile is still spotty but has come a long way.

m4a1mustang 01-11-2014 10:12 AM

I was going to switch to AT&T because I think they have better local coverage than VZ, but Dana gets a 15% discount from work on VZ plans so we stuck with it. Got the LG G2.

eastwest2300 01-11-2014 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2646467)
Who has the best coverage depends on where you need the coverage.

I carry 2-3 phones on different carriers with me at all times and there's nothing close to a definitive "best coverage carrier"

Tmobile is still spotty but has come a long way.

I agree with you 100%, i know when i was in this other agency I use to work for, as soon as I walked in the building my phone dropped service (tmobile), when I switched to verizon I NEVER had an issue, and that was with me going 10 levels down into a parking garage and throughout the building.

eastwest2300 01-11-2014 11:08 AM

I was also told that verizon had more "repeaters" throughout the city... so that could be reason why.

Red__Zed 01-11-2014 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 2646557)
I agree with you 100%, i know when i was in this other agency I use to work for, as soon as I walked in the building my phone dropped service (tmobile), when I switched to verizon I NEVER had an issue, and that was with me going 10 levels down into a parking garage and throughout the building.

Yeah, building coverage comes down to density, something Tmobile is far behind on (and VZW is generally slightly behind ATT on in most cities). VZW likes to tout their better (geographic) coverage, but ATT generally has better usable coverage in populated areas.

VZW has killer acquisition times though. When I land after a flight, my VZW phone is running on power on. ATT and TM take a while to figure out where I am.

eastwest2300 01-11-2014 11:23 AM

Im actually gonna be looking at one of these unlimited everything smaller carriers, especially if I can cut my phone bill in half, but before I do it, Im gonna do a ton of homework on it.. I mean I love verizon, I just hate paying $84 a month when all I do is text.

MightyBobo 01-11-2014 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 2646357)
Your coverage might take a hit, I had Tmobile, and a buddy of mine worked at AT&T, Verizon, & Tmobile, and after the coverage issues I was having, I asked him out of all the carriers, which one had the BEST coverage, he said Verizon. When he told me that, I switched immediately.

Nice phone, hopefully you won't have any issues.

I have a cell phone tower right near my house, and my signal has only improved at work. T-Mobile also is better in my home town in NY, than Verizon is.

Long and short, I did nothing but improve.

Btw, T-Mobile's connection is freaking fast as hell, compared to Verizon's.

b1adesofcha0s 01-11-2014 11:22 PM

My cousin used to have one of those smaller carriers and hated the coverage. The only place he had better coverage than my phone with Verizon was way out in Deep Creek, MD. I'll be waiting for the S5 in April so I can upgrade my phone.

MightyBobo 01-11-2014 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 2647369)
My cousin used to have one of those smaller carriers and hated the coverage. The only place he had better coverage than my phone with Verizon was way out in Deep Creek, MD. I'll be waiting for the S5 in April so I can upgrade my phone.

My dad has Virgin mobile. His reception absolutely blows, almost anywhere he's gone.

eastwest2300 01-12-2014 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 2647306)
I have a cell phone tower right near my house, and my signal has only improved at work. T-Mobile also is better in my home town in NY, than Verizon is.

Long and short, I did nothing but improve.

Btw, T-Mobile's connection is freaking fast as hell, compared to Verizon's.

nice!

ZCarMan 01-12-2014 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 2646567)
Im actually gonna be looking at one of these unlimited everything smaller carriers, especially if I can cut my phone bill in half, but before I do it, Im gonna do a ton of homework on it.. I mean I love verizon, I just hate paying $84 a month when all I do is text.

It might be worth your while to check into ATT. This year they rolled out this new program called "AT&T Next". With some of the value plans you can get data, unlimited talk and text for as little as $45.00 a month with no annual contract. I don't have it, but received a letter about it. I also know another guy at work who switched to the ATT Go Phone smart phone, I think, with no data but he has a verizon hot spot that he uses with it for that. Costs him about $25.00 for the phone. As you are looking to lower costs, these might be an option to look at.

eastwest2300 01-12-2014 11:03 AM

ahhh Jon, you're the man, thank you so much.

H2O_Doc 01-12-2014 01:30 PM

I wanted to post MAZOCian thanks to Takjak2 for his help. We installed a front sway bar and an uol cooler in my Z. I say "we", but the only thing I did (and this is the truth) was screw down ONE FITTING. I did, however, complete this part if the installation with an adroitness and precision seldom seen in mortals. It was really something to behold. For once my ability to screw quickly was greeted with something other than disappointment and ridicule.


Anyway, thanks again, and here's to putting the days of cooking oil behind me (well apart from my fry daddy).

eastwest2300 01-12-2014 02:09 PM

awesome stuff man, so you did the oil cooler yourself, you were talking about taking it a mechanic.

H2O_Doc 01-12-2014 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 2647926)
awesome stuff man, so you did the oil cooler yourself, you were talking about taking it a mechanic.

One of our MAZOC members did 99.99%, but it was the easy part. I had the toughest part.

eastwest2300 01-12-2014 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by H2O_Doc (Post 2647995)
One of our MAZOC members did 99.99%, but it was the easy part. I had the toughest part.

excellent man, thats awesome! did you make a block off plate yet for cold temps?

MightyBobo 01-12-2014 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 2648087)
excellent man, thats awesome! did you make a block off plate yet for cold temps?

This. If you havent, you need to do it ASAP.

eastwest2300 01-12-2014 06:14 PM

Yeah, i did my homework, after having mine installed, luckily I don't drive my Z all that often.

H2O_Doc 01-12-2014 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 2648087)
excellent man, thats awesome! did you make a block off plate yet for cold temps?

We did. Attached and currently covering part of the cooler.

The Stillen swaybar also made a noticeable difference.

I'm thinking maybe just do HFCs and call it done for a while (I might be kidding myself).

Sealed the paint today and topped off with some Collinite 845.

eastwest2300 01-12-2014 08:05 PM

so when the bumper is on, how are you putting on and taking off the block off plate?

H2O_Doc 01-12-2014 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 2648242)
so when the bumper is on, how are you putting on and taking off the block off plate?

I just pop the plastic rivets on the front end finisher assembly, pull it off, reach down, and remove the block-off plate. Attaches with Velcro. It takes less than two minutes.

eastwest2300 01-13-2014 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by H2O_Doc (Post 2648394)
I just pop the plastic rivets on the front end finisher assembly, pull it off, reach down, and remove the block-off plate. Attaches with Velcro. It takes less than two minutes.

Excellent.. good stuff man. Let me know if you have any questions as to when you should apply it.. I've pretty much tested the waters with it.

dmhenderson 01-13-2014 10:17 AM

Here's a Monday laugh for you:

Has anyone chipped their car? If so, mind giving me and reddit some feedback? : Autos

Guy claims Gforce chip added 50whp in proven dyno gains to his "buddy's car"

4r3s 01-13-2014 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2648845)
Here's a Monday laugh for you:

Has anyone chipped their car? If so, mind giving me and reddit some feedback? : Autos

Guy claims Gforce chip added 50whp in proven dyno gains to his "buddy's car"

To retort the current top comment in the thread, I believe the opposite is true. In that, automakers typically tune their cars to meet epa regulations which indeed does leave a lot of room left on the table for improvements in the areas of horsepower and torque. Most cars are driven by your grandma and most people can't handle power of a pathetic 4 cylinder engine which is another reason a lot of performance is left on the table. I do not find 50whp out of this world for chipping a grand prix. Why do you find this outlandish?

the grand prix is a very different car than the Z keep in mind. The Z is a sports car and will not have this same issue.

Now is the specific product gforce any good? I don't know.

takjak2 01-13-2014 11:16 AM

Doc, glad you are enjoying the swaybar :driving:

On the chip topic, see the gains on BMW inline 6s or the year to year increases for most other cars. We don't see gains on the Z because the VQ is already stretched to the limit.

Z Stig 01-13-2014 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by H2O_Doc (Post 2648394)
I just pop the plastic rivets on the front end finisher assembly, pull it off, reach down, and remove the block-off plate. Attaches with Velcro. It takes less than two minutes.

Hey Doc,

What oil cooler did you get? I have a 34 row from Z-1. I am interested in making a block plate. Did you take any pictures of yours?

MightyBobo 01-13-2014 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s (Post 2648867)
To retort the current top comment in the thread, I believe the opposite is true. In that, automakers typically tune their cars to meet epa regulations which indeed does leave a lot of room left on the table for improvements in the areas of horsepower and torque. Most cars are driven by your grandma and most people can't handle power of a pathetic 4 cylinder engine which is another reason a lot of performance is left on the table. I do not find 50whp out of this world for chipping a grand prix. Why do you find this outlandish?

the grand prix is a very different car than the Z keep in mind. The Z is a sports car and will not have this same issue.

Now is the specific product gforce any good? I don't know.

FWIW, we have no idea if this is the Grand Prix GTP (supercharged), which would add a very large variable onto the table.

MightyBobo 01-13-2014 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Z Stig (Post 2649007)
Hey Doc,

What oil cooler did you get? I have a 34 row from Z-1. I am interested in making a block plate. Did you take any pictures of yours?

I just measured my oil cooler, and cut a sheet of aluminum from lowes to shape. Then I used the heavy duty velcro and stuck it onto the front of the cooler. It's stuck like a champ ever since then.

And FYI, H20 - I disagree with EW on the whole "when" put the plate on. If you arent on the track, you may as well cover it up almost completely at all times, with the exception of summer. Then you can probably rock 50% coverage or so. But winter, should be 100% coverage, period.

H2O_Doc 01-13-2014 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 2649016)
I just measured my oil cooler, and cut a sheet of aluminum from lowes to shape. Then I used the heavy duty velcro and stuck it onto the front of the cooler. It's stuck like a champ ever since then.



And FYI, H20 - I disagree with EW on the whole "when" put the plate on. If you arent on the track, you may as well cover it up almost completely at all times, with the exception of summer. Then you can probably rock 50% coverage or so. But winter, should be 100% coverage, period.

Takjak2 made one for me exactly as you described.

As for how much to cover and when to uncover, you may well be correct.

H2O_Doc 01-13-2014 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Z Stig (Post 2649007)
Hey Doc,



What oil cooler did you get? I have a 34 row from Z-1. I am interested in making a block plate. Did you take any pictures of yours?

I have the same cooler and did as described above. Simple and effective. No photos : (

MightyBobo 01-13-2014 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by H2O_Doc (Post 2649029)
Takjak2 made one for me exactly as you described.

As for how much to cover and when to uncover, you may well be correct.

In winter, you need the full coverage to warm up as much as possible. Come spring/summer, unless you are doing spirited driving, you can ALSO do full coverage. However, if you intend to push it a little bit, you could certainly do about 50% coverage and it will keep you nice and cool. But (depending on the size of your cooler - I'm assuming it's a 25R or larger) for the most part, you can get away with covering most of it at all times.

The oil overheating issues are almost exclusively located on the track, and at times when you plan to rev north of 4-5K for an extended period of time...

MightyBobo 01-13-2014 12:42 PM

Also, before I forget....yes, there ARE detrimental effects to running oil TOO cold. It is a thing.

eastwest2300 01-13-2014 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 2649016)
And FYI, H20 - I disagree with EW on the whole "when" put the plate on. If you arent on the track, you may as well cover it up almost completely at all times, with the exception of summer. Then you can probably rock 50% coverage or so. But winter, should be 100% coverage, period.

there's a ton factors that play into it though, wouldnt you think?

Me personally, from what I've seen, If your oil temp is atleast 170 degrees, you're good. Even with the block off plate on or off, and driving on the highway at 55 degrees or more (outside temperature). You should be anywhere from 170 to 180 degrees, all day.

Right now, Bobo, you're right, the block off plate should be on. But my general rule of thumb is to watch your oil temp when your block off plate is off.

b1adesofcha0s 01-13-2014 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 2649016)
I just measured my oil cooler, and cut a sheet of aluminum from lowes to shape. Then I used the heavy duty velcro and stuck it onto the front of the cooler. It's stuck like a champ ever since then.

And FYI, H20 - I disagree with EW on the whole "when" put the plate on. If you arent on the track, you may as well cover it up almost completely at all times, with the exception of summer. Then you can probably rock 50% coverage or so. But winter, should be 100% coverage, period.

Im probably going to need your help to make a new block off plate for my oil cooler after I get my car back. My cousin lost mine and I've been running without it since then.

b1adesofcha0s 01-13-2014 01:17 PM

In my experience, you only need to take the plate off when you're gonna track it. I've had my cooler fully blocked off in the summer while spirited driving and my temps were ok. At most I would do 50% in the summer and 100% covered the redt of the year.


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