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m4a1mustang 12-18-2013 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 2615009)
In which case, you could argue that the Z is a terrible platform compared to so many other choices.

If you want to take it to any one extreme it kinda is. It just doesn't have a robust aftermarket, especially for straight line stuff... it's practically nonexistent. Road track support is much better.

m4a1mustang 12-18-2013 08:58 AM

Here is the list of top times on the forum, Jay:

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2613247)

1) SharpByCoop --GTM TT S2-- 08 G37S coupe 5AT 11.130 @ 123.93 mph 1.677 60ft DR
2) TerribleONE ------FI TT-- 10 Tour ----- 6MT 11.493 @ 124.32 mph 1.766 60ft ET street
3) *Billy02987 --GTM TT S2-- 09 Tour Sport 6MT 11.736 @ 122.59 mph 1.942 60ft street - driven by jnaut
4) Nismo370 -----GTM TT S1-- 09 Nismo ---- 6MT 11.759 @ 127.14 mph 2.157 60ft street
5) Brazilbro ----GTM TT S1-- 09 Base Sport 6MT 11.812 @ 126.51 mph 2.020 60ft street
6) 98intrigue ---custom ST-- 10 40th ----- 6MT 11.852 @ 119.61 mph 1.880 60ft DR
7) Seb@SZ -------GTM TT S2-- 10 Base Sport 6MT 11.961 @ 122.13 mph 1.843 60ft DR
8) *RCZ --------Stillen SC-- 09 Tour Sport 6MT 12.207 @ 116.34 mph 2.034 60ft street - driven by jnaut

Top time is not even a Z. TerribleONE is our quickest at 11.493 with a 6MT.

MightyBobo 12-18-2013 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2615023)
If you want to take it to any one extreme it kinda is. It just doesn't have a robust aftermarket, especially for straight line stuff... it's practically nonexistent. Road track support is much better.

So what you're saying is, it's about as bad as making the 370Z a rallycross car? Lol

Also, that list is...pitiful. So many cars well into the 400-500 WHP range, and none in the 10s seems horrible.

GM_Traitor3.5 12-18-2013 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 2615056)
So what you're saying is, it's about as bad as making the 370Z a rallycross car? Lol

Also, that list is...pitiful. So many cars well into the 400-500 WHP range, and none in the 10s seems horrible.

I'm honestly not surprised to see any 6MT's here in the 10's. I'm sure with a built automatic there are a few in this list that could crack into the 10's.

m4a1mustang 12-18-2013 09:18 AM

Especially considering the tires many are running. Some have pretty decent trap speeds, like you'd expect from a car with power, but they just don't like to go from a stop.

m4a1mustang 12-18-2013 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by GM_Traitor3.5 (Post 2615069)
I'm honestly not surprised to see any 6MT's here in the 10's. I'm sure with a built automatic there are a few in this list that could crack into the 10's.

A "built automatic" doesn't necessarily mean anything for a motor and chassis that can't rip the asphalt off the starting line.

eastwest2300 12-18-2013 09:30 AM

So basically your tires mean the world on a track? pretty much.

m4a1mustang 12-18-2013 09:32 AM

Tires play a big part, but they aren't everything from a dig.

Red__Zed 12-18-2013 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 2614961)
Im sure it is.. we're gonna see though.

I've already seen.

eastwest2300 12-18-2013 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2615101)
Tires play a big part, but they aren't everything from a dig.

True.

eastwest2300 12-18-2013 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2615112)
I've already seen.

:werd:

MightyBobo 12-18-2013 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2615072)
Especially considering the tires many are running. Some have pretty decent trap speeds, like you'd expect from a car with power, but they just don't like to go from a stop.

That is what surprises me the most - those 60' times arent bad at ALL, but they arent even in the 10s? Cray cray.

GM_Traitor3.5 12-18-2013 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 2615125)
That is what surprises me the most - those 60' times arent bad at ALL, but they arent even in the 10s? Cray cray.

Eh, some of the 60ft times are decent like the 1.7-1.8 range. Definitely something else in the equation to explain a decent 60 foot time and a pretty solid trap speed without someone hitting a 10.9X

m4a1mustang 12-18-2013 09:58 AM

Big difference between a 1.7-1.8 and a 1.6 which is about where you want to be to start cracking into the 10s without monster power.

Hell, the first NA 5.0 to run 10s (it did 10.97) did it on a 1.49 60' and trapped at 124 mph.

GM_Traitor3.5 12-18-2013 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2615149)
Big difference between a 1.7-1.8 and a 1.6 which is about where you want to be to start cracking into the 10s without monster power.

Hell, the first NA 5.0 to run 10s (it did 10.97) did it on a 1.49 60' and trapped at 124 mph.

You're starting to make me want bewst :|

http://www.americanmuscle.com/fordra...gt-manual.html



Ehrmagherd... enginegasm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOiwhk_xNs8

Red__Zed 12-18-2013 10:06 AM

I bet with a lot of the Z's, they still aren't even getting close to full grip/accel at the 60' point.

eastwest2300 12-18-2013 10:06 AM

thats a fast 5.0...haha

MyKindaGuise 12-18-2013 10:25 AM

Im pretty sure the Z could see 10s...just need to put that power down better. Driver mod will help a lot. I do wonder if maybe these cars could use a little less power and more grip. Instead of 500-600whp take a 400-450whp that can put that power down really cleanly aka ecutek traction control/boost control and tires.

Sorry but I still feel 10s are impressive for any street car. So you guise can suck my generalization.

m4a1mustang 12-18-2013 10:27 AM

Find a way to fit a Ford 8.8" rear end and it won't be as hard to do. :icon17:

m4a1mustang 12-18-2013 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2615173)
I bet with a lot of the Z's, they still aren't even getting close to full grip/accel at the 60' point.

More than likely this.

GM_Traitor3.5 12-18-2013 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2615207)
Find a way to fit a Ford 8.8" rear end and it won't be as hard to do. :icon17:

Then the Z wouldn't be the best handling car for under 40K :|

m4a1mustang 12-18-2013 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GM_Traitor3.5 (Post 2615231)
Then the Z wouldn't be the best handling car for under 40K :|

It's not now...

MyKindaGuise 12-18-2013 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2615252)
It's not now...

BRZ FRS twins right? They are quite nimble little cars from everything I have read and heard.

m4a1mustang 12-18-2013 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise (Post 2615268)
BRZ FRS twins right? They are quite nimble little cars from everything I have read and heard.

Not necessarily. They are on the list of good handlers, though. The reference is to a C&D comparison that had the Miata, Evo, 5.0, 370, and maybe a couple others in a "Best Handling Under $40,000" feature. This was several years ago. It was the subject of many a sour debate here on the forum.

GM_Traitor3.5 12-18-2013 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2615277)
Not necessarily. They are on the list of good handlers, though. The reference is to a C&D comparison that had the Miata, Evo, 5.0, 370, and maybe a couple others in a "Best Handling Under $40,000" feature. This was several years ago. It was the subject of many a sour debate here on the forum.

Best-Handling Car For Less Than $40,000: 370Z vs. Evo, Mustang GT, GTI, Miata, Mini JCW - Feature - Car and Driver

eastwest2300 12-18-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by GM_Traitor3.5 (Post 2615231)
Then the Z wouldn't be the best handling car for under 40K :|

uh oh.. :icon08:

m4a1mustang 12-18-2013 11:11 AM

Ahh that was a painful time. Got the fanboys in a tizzy.

eastwest2300 12-18-2013 11:12 AM

That BRZ is a cool looking car though, in my opinion.

eastwest2300 12-18-2013 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2615299)
Ahh that was a painful time. Got the fanboys in a tizzy.

:icon18:

m4a1mustang 12-18-2013 11:14 AM

BRZ/FRS are cool cars. The power level is acceptable as long as you keep the shitty little tires on them. That's what makes them fun. Put real tires on and they get boring fast. All grip and no go.

eastwest2300 12-18-2013 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2615316)
BRZ/FRS are cool cars. The power level is acceptable as long as you keep the shitty little tires on them. That's what makes them fun. Put real tires on and they get boring fast. All grip and no go.

Its got that "boxer" engine, like the hondas and its VTAK.

Red__Zed 12-18-2013 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2615316)
BRZ/FRS are cool cars. The power level is acceptable as long as you keep the shitty little tires on them. That's what makes them fun. Put real tires on and they get boring fast. All grip and no go.

starts to feel like an s2k

m4a1mustang 12-18-2013 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 2615333)
Its got that "boxer" engine, like the hondas and its VTAK.

wat

eastwest2300 12-18-2013 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2615338)
starts to feel like an s2k

:p Didnt you have an s2k?

b1adesofcha0s 12-18-2013 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 2615343)
:p Didnt you have an s2k?

Yeah but his had trouble keeping all 4 wheels on the ground

Red__Zed 12-18-2013 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 2615343)
:p Didnt you have an s2k?

yes, I'm very familiar with how they feel.

eastwest2300 12-18-2013 11:51 AM

Oh thats what I thought.

eastwest2300 12-18-2013 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 2615381)
Yeah but his had trouble keeping all 4 wheels on the ground

Forced Induction will do that...:p

eastwest2300 12-18-2013 11:53 AM

Blades, how much did you spend on your ARK?

b1adesofcha0s 12-18-2013 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 2615393)
Blades, how much did you spend on your ARK?

Sent you a text.


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