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chieuxuan 12-02-2013 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by StangerGT (Post 2591766)
Track: XP10 Front / XP8 Rear
Street: ...whatever came in the box with my Cobra Calipers/Rotors lol

I havn't removed my track pads as of yet from the stang... they squeak like a ************.

I have the same brake pads set up and they are still on the car, too lazy to swap them out.

StangerGT 12-02-2013 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by chieuxuan (Post 2591833)
I have the same brake pads set up and they are still on the car, too lazy to swap them out.

Well i had the last track event... then i came down to FL for work. I ended up having to drive it to base a few times (jeep broke on me). going 10mph for 40 miles in stop and go traffic was horrible lol. think i pissed off everyone around me.

so its still kinda sitting at home... somewhat broke lol

chieuxuan 12-02-2013 07:47 PM

I hear you, I went for an oil change two weeks ago, when I pulled and stop, everybody looked at like wtf dude, you need brakes.......lol.....noise doesn't bother me at all, it's just the compound that stick on the wheels is hard to take off. Some won't come off. Other than that, I love Carbotech pads.

m4a1mustang 12-02-2013 07:49 PM

Welp, tires ordered for the Z. Turns out the PSS 305 is really around a 315 which is just way too much on a 10" rim. Went 265/285 instead which should naturally dial out some understeer. Big front sway bar is going to help a lot with that as well. This car needs all the front grip it can get!

ZCarMan 12-02-2013 07:54 PM

Its time.

http://www.the370z.com/mazoc/82933-z...ml#post2591903

m4a1mustang 12-02-2013 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCarMan (Post 2591904)

:tup:

I'm looking forward to it. I'll probably put the MAZOC prep thread up in January. Have a few things to run by you and Steve. :tiphat:

ZCarMan 12-02-2013 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2591909)
:tup:

I'm looking forward to it. I'll probably put the MAZOC prep thread up in January. Have a few things to run by you and Steve. :tiphat:

Registration doesn't open until 1 January so that works out fine. This give folks something good to think about in the cold time of the year. I'm anxious to get back to ZDayZ.

eastwest2300 12-02-2013 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 2591565)
I just drove around with my wheels powdercoated in brake dust :icon17:

this is soo true, i've seen with my own eyes.:tup:

MyKindaGuise 12-02-2013 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2591893)
Welp, tires ordered for the Z. Turns out the PSS 305 is really around a 315 which is just way too much on a 10" rim. Went 265/285 instead which should naturally dial out some understeer. Big front sway bar is going to help a lot with that as well. This car needs all the front grip it can get!

How do the 265s fit? I'm thinking really heavily about a square 275 setup.

m4a1mustang 12-02-2013 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise (Post 2592127)
How do the 265s fit? I'm thinking really heavily about a square 275 setup.

From the looks of it they fit well. It's a very popular setup with the RE11s on the stock rays and should be good with the PSS, which run wide.

I thought about a 275/35 square setup but don't really want to fit the widest-spec on the front and the smallest-spec on the rear. That's going to lead to some funky sidewall behavior. I'm actually running 245 square on my winter wheels (base 18x8 and 18x9s) and don't particularly like the feel... the front sidewall rolls a lot more than the rear does. 265/35 and 285/35 should have roughly the same sidewall behavior front and rear.

With the power you have I'd want to run more rear tire. 265/285 RE11s would probably be pretty good, however you might need more rear tire yet. 265/35 305/30 RE11s work fine, but you would need to work to get your balance closer to neutral (front/rear bar, alignment, etc).

I think ideally I would run a 19x10 front and 19x11 rear. :icon17:

m4a1mustang 12-02-2013 10:28 PM

Here is a Z with 265/285 Re11s. This one belongs to LunaZ

http://www.the370z.com/attachments/w...re11_front.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/attachments/w...zre11_rear.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/attachments/w...hip01small.jpg

m4a1mustang 12-02-2013 10:34 PM

FWIW the PSS is going to look a little meatier. Both front Re11 and PSS have a 271mm section width, but the PSS with it's square shoulders has a full 10mm more measured tread width than the RE-11 (254 to 243ish).

The rear is similar. Roughly the same section width but the Super Sport has a measured tread width of around 285mm to the RE-11's 265ish.

Now, there is no standard for measuring tread width, but this all means the PSS should be visually wider than the RE-11, all thanks to the square vs. round sidewall.

MyKindaGuise 12-02-2013 11:04 PM

This has given me some food for thought...My fronts are getting pretty low(3-4/32)...luckily im not driving the car so its not a concern but I am wondering if 275 is too much up front. The plan was to rotate me still meaty rears to the front and put either 275s or 305s in the rear. I just couldn't find much info on anyone with stock rays running 275/305. I would love to run 4 18x10.5 RFP1s or SA55Ms.

dmhenderson 12-03-2013 06:16 AM

I'm gonna do tires in the spring. Not going to bother right now. Going to want the widest I can fit on those stock nismo rays.

m4a1mustang 12-03-2013 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise (Post 2592199)
This has given me some food for thought...My fronts are getting pretty low(3-4/32)...luckily im not driving the car so its not a concern but I am wondering if 275 is too much up front. The plan was to rotate me still meaty rears to the front and put either 275s or 305s in the rear. I just couldn't find much info on anyone with stock rays running 275/305. I would love to run 4 18x10.5 RFP1s or SA55Ms.

You can run a 275/35 up front without an issue. That's the maximum recommended width for a 9" wheel and it works really well. The car will definitely benefit from running more tire up front.

If you are still on the Potenzas you can fit a 305 RE050A on the stock rear wheels.

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2592330)
I'm gonna do tires in the spring. Not going to bother right now. Going to want the widest I can fit on those stock nismo rays.

Probably 285/305 to keep you in spec.

dmhenderson 12-03-2013 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2592430)

Probably 285/305 to keep you in spec.

PSS's or...? Anything else new and exciting out there I might consider?

m4a1mustang 12-03-2013 09:08 AM

PSS is a great choice. That's what I'd go with.

m4a1mustang 12-03-2013 09:12 AM

They had a $70 rebate promotion that ended yesterday. I'm sure it will be back in another month or two.

MyKindaGuise 12-03-2013 09:16 AM

Cool beans! im looking at moving my Vreds up front then temporarily for sure...Hate running different tires. Then getting PSS 305's for the rear. This is going to be one meaty setup holy crap.

m4a1mustang 12-03-2013 09:19 AM

I probably wouldn't try the PSS on a 10" rim. They run way wider than anything else.

Dai and I were looking up reference material yesterday and he found this: michelin pss lots of pics 305 30 19 and 265 35 18 weight and fit - Corvette Forum

It pretty much confirmed our suspicions that the PSS is super wide and is probably going to perform like poop when a 305 is mounted on a 10" rim. 10.5" would be in spec, but even on a 10.5 it's going to be super meat. 10"... no way.

The Re11s run narrower and will work, though.

m4a1mustang 12-03-2013 09:23 AM

For reference, this is a 275/35 on 19x9:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--...0/IMG_1012.jpg

Meat.

I've found that with PSS, under 295 the sidewall is a little more rounded, but above 295 it *really* starts to square off. That's when you get the 295s fitting more like a 305 and the 305s more like a 315-320.

MyKindaGuise 12-03-2013 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2592486)
I probably wouldn't try the PSS on a 10" rim. They run way wider than anything else.

Dai and I were looking up reference material yesterday and he found this: michelin pss lots of pics 305 30 19 and 265 35 18 weight and fit - Corvette Forum

It pretty much confirmed our suspicions that the PSS is super wide and is probably going to perform like poop when a 305 is mounted on a 10" rim. 10.5" would be in spec, but even on a 10.5 it's going to be super meat. 10"... no way.

The Re11s run narrower and will work, though.

:eek::eek: Whaaaaaa?

Maybe ill look at 295/285s. I really want PSS tires for the bump in treadwear over the RE11s.


Seriously good info. Glad I posted before I bought anything.

m4a1mustang 12-03-2013 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise (Post 2592501)
:eek::eek: Whaaaaaa?

Maybe ill look at 295/285s. I really want PSS tires for the bump in treadwear over the RE11s.

I hear ya. If you are OK with running a shorter tire you can pull off a 295/30 on the rear. Since you are lowered it wouldn't look bad at all. Something like 265/35 and 295/30 would work with a front/rear diameter difference of -1.3% (stock is -.5%).

MyKindaGuise 12-03-2013 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2592505)
I hear ya. If you are OK with running a shorter tire you can pull off a 295/30 on the rear. Since you are lowered it wouldn't look bad at all. Something like 265/35 and 295/30 would work with a front/rear diameter difference of -1.3% (stock is -.5%).

Yeah I would have preferred the 305 in the rear because of it being closer to the stock size.

This has been quite handy lately Tire size calculator

Any who that 265/295 setup would be quite nice I think.

dmhenderson 12-03-2013 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2592430)
Probably 285/305 to keep you in spec.

Is that going to look ok? I'm not dropped remember.

m4a1mustang 12-03-2013 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2592525)
Is that going to look ok? I'm not dropped remember.

I think it would look just fine. You might be better off going 275/35 for the fronts, though. 285 is probably going to be a little too tall.

This is what a 305/30/19 PSS looks like on a 10.5" rim:

http://www.the370z.com/members/zero-...ec-16-2012.jpg
(forum member "zero")

aniceh 12-03-2013 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ZCarMan (Post 2591904)

Yay!!! My room is already booked, and I received my oil cooler and brake lines/fluid yesterday, so I'll be ready!

m4a1mustang 12-03-2013 11:09 AM

*Sigh* Looks like the 285/35/19 might not be available anymore for the PSS. Talking to Tire Rack now... may end up having to go with the RE11s.

dmhenderson 12-03-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2592661)
*Sigh* Looks like the 285/35/19 might not be available anymore for the PSS. Talking to Tire Rack now... may end up having to go with the RE11s.

Err...I don't really want to run 2 kinds of tires if I can help it.

m4a1mustang 12-03-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2592664)
Err...I don't really want to run 2 kinds of tires if I can help it.

I would never do that.

If they aren't available I'd do RE11 front & rear.

dmhenderson 12-03-2013 11:16 AM

I'll just shelve the discussion until springtime. No sense in worrying about it now.

m4a1mustang 12-03-2013 11:20 AM

I *could* try the 295/30. This is what it looks like on a 10" rim at stock ride height:

http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/...ps84b5e041.jpg

http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/...pse4ca3ba5.jpg

That's KaienZ34's car.

Approximately 1/4" more fender gap than stock:

http://stfoto.smugmug.com/Cars/2013-...MG_0077-X1.jpg

http://stfoto.smugmug.com/Cars/2013-...MG_0064-X1.jpg

MyKindaGuise 12-03-2013 11:34 AM

Do it! 295s!!!!!!!!

m4a1mustang 12-03-2013 11:38 AM

Thing is, I don't really plan on lowering the car, so I'd have to live with the gap. I wish there were more people with pics of this setup... i know a few people have done it on the stock rays at stock height, but no pics!

MyKindaGuise 12-03-2013 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2592692)
Thing is, I don't really plan on lowering the car, so I'd have to live with the gap. I wish there were more people with pics of this setup... i know a few people have done it on the stock rays at stock height, but no pics!

Not even some swifts? I know you have had way more cars then me and have been there done that but....I said that same thing about lowering. I really don't know how that is going to look. Could always wait for me to man up and get tires and drive down and we just throw my wheels on your car.

eastwest2300 12-03-2013 11:42 AM

pretty car stevo :hello:

m4a1mustang 12-03-2013 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise (Post 2592699)
Not even some swifts? I know you have had way more cars then me and have been there done that but....I said that same thing about lowering. I really don't know how that is going to look. Could always wait for me to man up and get tires and drive down and we just throw my wheels on your car.

Yeah with where I drive I can't really afford to lower the car. It scrapes enough as is. I think if I can't get the 285/35 PSS I'll either go back to stock size on PSS or switch to 265/285 RE11.

Probably the RE11. Have always wanted to give them a try, anyway.

m4a1mustang 12-03-2013 12:07 PM

TireRack got back to me. Even the 265/35 is being discontinued, they just happen to have them in stock. Looks like I'm switching to RE-11!

Edit: Might actually do the S-04. An improvement over the RE050A by quite a bit, but a small step down from the PSS (Always finishes #2). Would be a better DD tire than the RE-11... thinking thinking thinking!

chieuxuan 12-03-2013 12:44 PM

do it man, you already have 18s snow tires, you can use them for dd all year around

MyKindaGuise 12-03-2013 01:14 PM

I have had my eyes on the S04s as well. They seem to be doing much better than the RE50s. If you get those I want a full review!


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