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eastwest2300 12-01-2013 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise (Post 2589668)
Still rocking my ebc carbon Kevlars...no complaints. Car will snap your neck if you aren't paying attention.

:icon18:

m4a1mustang 12-01-2013 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ZCarMan (Post 2589836)
You're the second person I've heard poo poo the Hawks. I've ran them (HPS+) on the Z now for four years and they work just fine for street driving. Granted I don't drive with them every day but they work fine for me (YMMV) with a couple of track days (until I swapped to Carbotechs for the track) and also for use at ZDayZ.

I'm assuming you mean HP+, in which case, yes, those are OK.

It's the HPS that are terrible and would never stand up to track use. And even on the street they lack bite.

ZCarMan 12-01-2013 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2589972)
I'm assuming you mean HP+, in which case, yes, those are OK.

It's the HPS that are terrible and would never stand up to track use. And even on the street they lack bite.

Got you. Nobody here tracks their Zs much anyhow except for Henry who has been terrorizing the pavement lately from what I understand.

XwChriswX 12-01-2013 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2589486)
I'm fine with Ferodo pads, thanks.

:iagree: :tup:

dmhenderson 12-01-2013 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCarMan (Post 2590397)
Got you. Nobody here tracks their Zs much anyhow except for Henry who has been terrorizing the pavement lately from what I understand.

I'm not looking for pure track here obviously but I want something that will work well well with a forced induction set-up that will stand up to occasional track use. Open to suggestions.

m4a1mustang 12-01-2013 07:01 PM

You really don't want to run any street pad on track. You might be fine with a Ferodo DS2500 on track while you're still learning and going slow, but if you are going to do any real track work you need to be looking at real track pads.

That said, Ferodo DS2500 (for the street) all the way.

XwChriswX 12-01-2013 07:02 PM

Street: Ferodo DS2500s

Track: Carbotech XP10F/8R

StangerGT 12-01-2013 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2590420)
You really don't want to run any street pad on track. You might be fine with a Ferodo DS2500 on track while you're still learning and going slow, but if you are going to do any real track work you need to be looking at real track pads.

That said, Ferodo DS2500 (for the street) all the way.

Dedicated track pads are a must... if ur willing to spend the money and time to install a turbo... then slapping some track pads on every so often shouldn't be an issue..

XwChriswX 12-01-2013 07:21 PM

Blipshift is running a black friday special on some old classics through Cyber Monday if anyone is interested... I've already got my order in. :tup:

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eastwest2300 12-01-2013 07:22 PM

Speaking of brake pads, Im looking at piecing together a BBK..

eastwest2300 12-01-2013 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by StangerGT (Post 2590448)
Dedicated track pads are a must... if ur willing to spend the money and time to install a turbo... then slapping some track pads on every so often shouldn't be an issue..

:iagree:

StangerGT 12-01-2013 07:31 PM

dont z's already come with 6 piston calipers?

eastwest2300 12-01-2013 07:37 PM

Not the base model..

dmhenderson 12-01-2013 07:40 PM

Base model was only sold from 2009-2011 and was discontinued in 2012. It came with 18" rims and 4 piston calipers iirc

eastwest2300 12-01-2013 07:41 PM

yup, that is true.

dmhenderson 12-01-2013 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by StangerGT (Post 2590448)
Dedicated track pads are a must... if ur willing to spend the money and time to install a turbo... then slapping some track pads on every so often shouldn't be an issue..

Well I need to replace my street pads first so I want to get something a little sturdier than whatever came with it stock. I'm not going to drive around with track pads on it. Also, I'm supercharged not turbo'd.

I won't see the track until next spring and even then I'm gonna need lessons.

b1adesofcha0s 12-01-2013 11:04 PM

I DD'd my Z with Carbotech XP8's on it for over a year without any issues. The brake dust would probably bother you a lot more than it bothered me though.

Red__Zed 12-01-2013 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by StangerGT (Post 2590462)
dont z's already come with 6 piston calipers?

4 pistons for the akebonos
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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2590473)
Base model was only sold from 2009-2011 and was discontinued in 2012. It came with 18" rims and 4 piston calipers iirc

the base model was not discontinued, and the base brakes are not 4 piston.

Red__Zed 12-01-2013 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2590420)
You really don't want to run any street pad on track. You might be fine with a Ferodo DS2500 on track while you're still learning and going slow, but if you are going to do any real track work you need to be looking at real track pads.

That said, Ferodo DS2500 (for the street) all the way.

I second the DS2500 as a great street pad, along with the idea of a set of pads specifically for track use.

dmhenderson 12-01-2013 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2590659)
4 pistons for the akebonos


the base model was not discontinued, and the base brakes are not 4 piston.

Yes it was. The sport became the base. The base used to start at ~28k. The sport was 31. Now the "base" is 32k (old sport).

It used to go: Base, sport, touring, nismo
Now it goes: Base, roadster, nismo

Red__Zed 12-01-2013 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2590661)
Yes it was. The sport became the base.

It used to go: Base, sport, touring, nismo
Now it goes: Base, roadster, nismo

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ps6d6d4fa9.png

You should call nissan and tell them their website is wrong.

dmhenderson 12-01-2013 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 2590656)
I DD'd my Z with Carbotech XP8's on it for over a year without any issues. The brake dust would probably bother you a lot more than it bothered me though.

I don't want sintering in the rotor caps or calipers let alone the rims so yeah, it would bother me

m4a1mustang 12-01-2013 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2590661)
Yes it was. The sport became the base. The base used to start at ~28k. The sport was 31. Now the "base" is 32k (old sport).

It used to go: Base, sport, touring, nismo
Now it goes: Base, roadster, nismo

No, Nissan just jacked the prices up. base model still exists. Sport is an option that can be applied to Base or Touring.

Middle of this year Nissan cut prices so base is back to 29.x.

b1adesofcha0s 12-01-2013 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2590675)
I don't want sintering in the rotor caps or calipers let alone the rims so yeah, it would bother me

Generally the more aggressive the pad, the more it will dust. Your best option would be to get a separate set of track pads for track days and run something like the DS2500 the rest of the time.

m4a1mustang 12-01-2013 11:46 PM

Ds2500 still dust a lot though.

b1adesofcha0s 12-01-2013 11:50 PM

I miss having my XP8's. So much more braking power than the stock pads, especially with the PSS tires.

GM_Traitor3.5 12-02-2013 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2590690)
Ds2500 still dust a lot though.

Once my stock Ferodo's wear out, probably gonna go DS2500 or CarboTech AX6 on the 5-0

m4a1mustang 12-02-2013 12:09 PM

I ran the DS2500s on my 5.0. Fantastic.

m4a1mustang 12-02-2013 12:10 PM

I also had them on the S2K for a short time. :p

GM_Traitor3.5 12-02-2013 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2591255)
I ran the DS2500s on my 5.0. Fantastic.

I'll sacrifice clean wheels in favor of stopping power any day :tiphat:

m4a1mustang 12-02-2013 12:37 PM

In all honesty it's not that bad, you just have to keep up with it.

MyKindaGuise 12-02-2013 12:43 PM

This thread still makes me lol sometimes.

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2589670)
You ever gonna come to another meet Cody? I want to check out your car.

Im trying man. The Z isn't inspected right now so its just being a garage camper at the moment. ABS sensor is still acting a fool. Gone through pretty much all diagnostic crap I can think of short of hooking the sensors up to Consult 3...which is a $500 purchase.

Anyways once that is fixed ill be getting my tune sorted out and ill be down. :/

MyKindaGuise 12-02-2013 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GM_Traitor3.5 (Post 2591272)
I'll sacrifice clean wheels in favor of stopping power any day :tiphat:

Been using a very diluted simple green mix lately. The brake dust just falls off. Not even mad at my pads anymore.

Z Stig 12-02-2013 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GM_Traitor3.5 (Post 2591272)
I'll sacrifice clean wheels in favor of stopping power any day :tiphat:

I Agree!

I use Posi-Quiet as my DD pads and HAWK DTC for my track pads. I like both sets for their purposes.

GM_Traitor3.5 12-02-2013 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise (Post 2591285)
Been using a very diluted simple green mix lately. The brake dust just falls off. Not even mad at my pads anymore.

I use the Adam's Quick Sealant every few months on mine. With the Adam's Green Wheel cleaner, just foam them up and a light scrub takes all the dust off.

GM_Traitor3.5 12-02-2013 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2591276)
In all honesty it's not that bad, you just have to keep up with it.

You know how frequently I wash my car, so probably not an issue at all anyway :icon17:

b1adesofcha0s 12-02-2013 04:13 PM

I just drove around with my wheels powdercoated in brake dust :icon17:

dmhenderson 12-02-2013 04:18 PM

I wash the car once a week so it probably wouldn't be that bad I guess.

XwChriswX 12-02-2013 04:46 PM

The Adams DWC works great too. Love the stuff. Don't even really need to use a brush if you don't want to, good water pressure after about ~5 minutes of soaking will take 95% of it off.

StangerGT 12-02-2013 06:10 PM

Track: XP10 Front / XP8 Rear
Street: ...whatever came in the box with my Cobra Calipers/Rotors lol

I havn't removed my track pads as of yet from the stang... they squeak like a ************.


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