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Originally Posted by aniceh Thanks, guys. I'd love to talk with you about your experiences at the next meet. Driving a car fast is an extremely unforgiving art. Professionals make

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Old 04-30-2013, 08:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Thanks, guys. I'd love to talk with you about your experiences at the next meet.
Driving a car fast is an extremely unforgiving art. Professionals make it look so easy, but the level they are performing at is the equivalent of a jogger versus an Olympic runner. The absolute worst place to find the limit is on the street - you're thinking a bit backwards as far as being "comfortable" in your car. It's the opposite: you go out with a professional to learn your own car, and then on the STREET you will be more comfortable.

So, my recommendation? Try a little AutoX or two. Then move up to HPDE.
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Driving a car fast is an extremely unforgiving art. Professionals make it look so easy, but the level they are performing at is the equivalent of a jogger versus an Olympic runner. The absolute worst place to find the limit is on the street - you're thinking a bit backwards as far as being "comfortable" in your car. It's the opposite: you go out with a professional to learn your own car, and then on the STREET you will be more comfortable.

So, my recommendation? Try a little AutoX or two. Then move up to HPDE.
Trust me, I know it's a technical skill that takes practice to master. I make no such mistake of thinking that it's as easy as the pros can make it look. The main problem that I've run into is that there are differing schools of thought on how best to approach the learning process, and everyone is completely in the tank for their own. I have no preconceived notions, or extreme loyalties, I just want to be smart.
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Trust me, I know it's a technical skill that takes practice to master. I make no such mistake of thinking that it's as easy as the pros can make it look. The main problem that I've run into is that there are differing schools of thought on how best to approach the learning process, and everyone is completely in the tank for their own. I have no preconceived notions, or extreme loyalties, I just want to be smart.
The answer is, any one of these methods will teach you something. There is no wrong answer. You can even learn things in a public place without endangering folks. There are many lessons to learn
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This is true.

Just depends on what you want to "learn". For instance, oversteer/countersteer is NOT something you want to really practice on a narrow, tree-lined road. But, you COULD practice "finding the line" at almost any speed. I ALWAYS do that when taking on and off ramps, personally.
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Just depends on what you want to "learn". For instance, oversteer/countersteer is NOT something you want to really practice on a narrow, tree-lined road. But, you COULD practice "finding the line" at almost any speed. I ALWAYS do that when taking on and off ramps, personally.
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Then everything we have listed is what you want.

In all honesty, if you want to learn some basics, feel free to come up sometime, and we'll just go drive around. You can learn plenty on public roads without being in danger.
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Then everything we have listed is what you want.

In all honesty, if you want to learn some basics, feel free to come up sometime, and we'll just go drive around. You can learn plenty on public roads without being in danger.
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Just depends on what you want to "learn". For instance, oversteer/countersteer is NOT something you want to really practice on a narrow, tree-lined road. But, you COULD practice "finding the line" at almost any speed. I ALWAYS do that when taking on and off ramps, personally.
I started doing this every time I take a ramp now
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Corner entry, and smooth inputs are something you can always practice, too. Also, "driving with your fingertips".
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Been doing some of that as well.
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This is true.

Just depends on what you want to "learn". For instance, oversteer/countersteer is NOT something you want to really practice on a narrow, tree-lined road. But, you COULD practice "finding the line" at almost any speed. I ALWAYS do that when taking on and off ramps, personally.
Situational awareness could be practiced any time you are behind the wheel. Practice, practice, practice...
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