MAZOC Karting Challenge 27 April (Sat.)

Z Stig · 04-30-2013, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GM_Traitor3.5

He was probably talking about my car since I was the lone Nissan that didn't belong in MAZOC anyway...

No, he referred to us as "Nissan Enthusiasts". I was trying to be nice to him, because he could make our lives more difficult than he already had. I wanted to tell him to

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GM_Traitor3.5 · 04-30-2013, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Z Stig

No, he referred to us as "Nissan Enthusiasts". I was trying to be nice to him, because he could make our lives more difficult than he already had. I wanted to tell him to

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And this fool really did own a hybrid? He's a tree hugging enthusiast

ZCarMan · 04-30-2013, 01:00 PM

Just so folks know. The SPK guy with the hat was Jens Scott. He runs the SPK kart track. I've been coordinating with him every since we started to plan for this event. He contacted me the day after the event to ask if we had a good time, etc. He truly wanted to get feedback on how we felt about our karting event. I told him to come to the board and just read the comments and find out for himself. Okay, not really.

I told him that we all had a great time and that many want to come back again. He said that if we wanted to do an evening karting session to just let him know when and he would work with us to make it happen. I'll leave the coordination for the next event up to someone else though.

He probably referred to us as Nissan Enthusiasts because that is what I told him we were.

GM_Traitor3.5 · 04-30-2013, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCarMan

Just so folks know. The SPK guy with the hat was Jens Scott. He runs the SPK kart track. I've been coordinating with him every since we started to plan for this event. He contacted me the day after the event to ask if we had a good time, etc. He truly wanted to get feedback on how we felt about our karting event. I told him to come to the board and just read the comments and find out for himself. Okay, not really.

I told him that we all had a great time and that many want to come back again. He said that if we wanted to do an evening karting session to just let him know when and he would work with us to make it happen. I'll leave the coordination for the next event up to someone else though.

I completely understand the safety aspect of it and wanting to keep the hooliganism to a minimum to prevent injuries. I didn't really have any complaints at all, I had a blast.

m4a1mustang · 04-30-2013, 01:06 PM

My only complaints are really just about the officiating staff. :|

ZCarMan · 04-30-2013, 01:08 PM

If anyone feels compelled to offer constructive criticism then feel free to contact Jens Scott directly at: (540) 878-7196

m4a1mustang · 04-30-2013, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCarMan

If anyone feels compelled to offer constructive criticism then feel free to contact Jens Scott directly at: (540) 878-7196

It's cool. We know how it all operates now so we know what we can and can't do.

Z Stig · 04-30-2013, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GM_Traitor3.5

I completely understand the safety aspect of it and wanting to keep the hooliganism to a minimum to prevent injuries. I didn't really have any complaints at all, I had a blast.

I agree with the safety aspects! It would have been a real bad situation had somebody gotten hurt.
But in Dana's situation, it seemed like he overreacted a little bit. She was not being aggressive and bumping people, she was just driving in the warm up laps getting used to the kart, and when you have folks learning in that environment, it is easy to miss a braking point, or discovering that a little pressure on the brakes can lock the back tires and around you go! Personally, I think the video could have been more involved in the "unique" handling capabilities of the typical kart.

Jon, as far as you not setting up this next time... If I gave you the impression that I was not grateful for you setting this up, or for the coordination you worked, that was not my intent.

I think I can speak for all, even those that had issues, the overall event was great and a fun experience that most of us want to do again! I was trolling with the hybrid comment, as I respect that some people like those cars, they are just not my thing. And if you give us a hard time... I may troll a bit. His direct quote was "I guess driving those Nissans don't instill good driving skills?". That was after the first warm up laps for Group A and B, but before any of the races. Later in the day, he seemed like a good guy, but my comments were based on Dana's experience and his statement to me.

m4a1mustang · 04-30-2013, 01:25 PM

I know I speak for everyone else when I say I had a great time and am highly appreciative of Jon for putting everything together for us.

ZCarMan · 04-30-2013, 01:33 PM

I'm glad that everyone enjoyed themselves.

eastwest2300 · 04-30-2013, 01:43 PM

Jon, you are the man, duude!

RandyD · 04-30-2013, 01:53 PM

and Kudo's to Pat for hanging out all day with no Kohl's to go into...

StangerGT · 04-30-2013, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Precisely. And you met and exceeded the limits of the kart, so this really is the same as an off-track excursion doing the real deal. In that situation, you'd be made to come back in to the pits, too. So I feel the black flag in this situation is appropriate.

Now, I don't know what others were getting flagged for - I'd love to see footage from someone who DID get flagged, like Josh, but he had no camera. I CAN tell you, however, that I was driving quite aggressively in my traffic management, and I never even got a hint of a black flag, so aggressive driving wasn't it. I never once bumped another car, nor did I ever lose control of my car.

The flags for people spinning... mostly all around me...

I just so happened to be in the cluster of people so they kept pointing me in.

StangerGT · 04-30-2013, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

I would like to AutoX, for the thrill of it, but I'm useless without the set lines of a track. The cones thing just doesn't work for me and I'd miss a ton of them.

When I went out to fed ex field in the SCCA... we only had one guy really eff up the course... mostly, the track is well marked, i think i missed one cone the entire event.

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

You never know until you try it. I had an instructor sitting with me and he'd point out the correct way around the cones if I started to do it wrong.

In AutoX... i didnt have an instructor =/

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

No, really - when SCCA runs competition AutoX, the modifications you have would put you in a class SO DIFFICULT, you'd get absolutely wrecked by Miata's running 305's up front and back hahaha.

heh, even my mods (at the time) put me into a class with a highly modified Lambo/Ferrari/Viper/Vettes...

I just ran against myself... really I was no where near the level to compete with even the "ok" guys in crappy 80s civics lolz

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

Oh no, I completely get that bit. Which is why I wouldn't run in that class.

So basically it's setup to the fact that you can't mod first, and grow into them?

I understand why YOU do what you do, and it makes complete sense... But there is another thought pattern here. Guess thats another reason why AutoX isn't for me.

What does it matter what group you are placed in? just take your track times, and if you want, compare it to friends, but really just race against yourself... the only way the "class" matters is if you want to compete for a trophy or something... and even with your karting experiance, you wont be even close to that.

I have a friend that refuses to go to HDPE because he feels its a waste of money to go racing, with someone in the car telling him what to do... he feels as though he should be able to spend the money to... RACE... which kills me. I told him he will just end up killing someone. He doesnt understand the learning part.

AutoX isnt about racing anyone... just race your own time or have a nice competition between friends... who cares about the mods/skill/other people. They sure as hell wont care about ur car... no matter what the mods done.

If you plan on staying in AutoX and running in their series, then yeah I get the car issue, but if all you plan on doing is using it as a step up into HDPE for the experiance... then go ballz out with your modded car and beat the bajesus out of it.

XwChriswX · 04-30-2013, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by StangerGT

When I went out to fed ex field in the SCCA... we only had one guy really eff up the course... mostly, the track is well marked, i think i missed one cone the entire event.

In AutoX... i didnt have an instructor =/

heh, even my mods (at the time) put me into a class with a highly modified Lambo/Ferrari/Viper/Vettes...

I just ran against myself... really I was no where near the level to compete with even the "ok" guys in crappy 80s civics lolz

What does it matter what group you are placed in? just take your track times, and if you want, compare it to friends, but really just race against yourself... the only way the "class" matters is if you want to compete for a trophy or something... and even with your karting experiance, you wont be even close to that.

I have a friend that refuses to go to HDPE because he feels its a waste of money to go racing, with someone in the car telling him what to do... he feels as though he should be able to spend the money to... RACE... which kills me. I told him he will just end up killing someone. He doesnt understand the learning part.

AutoX isnt about racing anyone... just race your own time or have a nice competition between friends... who cares about the mods/skill/other people. They sure as hell wont care about ur car... no matter what the mods done.

If you plan on staying in AutoX and running in their series, then yeah I get the car issue, but if all you plan on doing is using it as a step up into HDPE for the experiance... then go ballz out with your modded car and beat the bajesus out of it.

I'm just a competitive person.

I love racing. My problem with AutoX is more my inability to learn the course than anything.

I know you walk it, and see 20 other cars do it, but for me, not having the solid lines and barriers to mark turns makes it difficult @ speed. That's why I like track runs. I would be up to do an AutoX event if we could get one for all of us?

I just want to learn, and wherever the knowledge comes from I'm thankful.

04-30-2013, 01:00 PM	#678 (permalink)
ZCarMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: MD Posts: 4,488 Drives: 09 Z34, 13 F-150 Rep Power: 26	Just so folks know. The SPK guy with the hat was Jens Scott. He runs the SPK kart track. I've been coordinating with him every since we started to plan for this event. He contacted me the day after the event to ask if we had a good time, etc. He truly wanted to get feedback on how we felt about our karting event. I told him to come to the board and just read the comments and find out for himself. Okay, not really. I told him that we all had a great time and that many want to come back again. He said that if we wanted to do an evening karting session to just let him know when and he would work with us to make it happen. I'll leave the coordination for the next event up to someone else though. He probably referred to us as Nissan Enthusiasts because that is what I told him we were. m4a1mustang, b1adesofcha0s and RandyD like this. __________________ Jon Swift \| SPC \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| AAM \| Cobb \| Hawk \| Volk Racing \| Bridgestone Green Demon Eyes Last edited by ZCarMan; 04-30-2013 at 01:02 PM.

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ZCarMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: MD Posts: 4,488 Drives: 09 Z34, 13 F-150 Rep Power: 26	If anyone feels compelled to offer constructive criticism then feel free to contact Jens Scott directly at: (540) 878-7196 __________________ Jon Swift \| SPC \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| AAM \| Cobb \| Hawk \| Volk Racing \| Bridgestone Green Demon Eyes

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	I know I speak for everyone else when I say I had a great time and am highly appreciative of Jon for putting everything together for us. Z Stig, RandyD and chieuxuan like this. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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ZCarMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: MD Posts: 4,488 Drives: 09 Z34, 13 F-150 Rep Power: 26	I'm glad that everyone enjoyed themselves. __________________ Jon Swift \| SPC \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| AAM \| Cobb \| Hawk \| Volk Racing \| Bridgestone Green Demon Eyes

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