MAZOC Karting Challenge 27 April (Sat.)

StangerGT · 04-29-2013, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

I'm not saying it doesn't matter. I'm saying that other people are saying I only did "better" because I am lighter than them... Well there were people lighter than me, so by their logic, I should have not done as well...

I know all too well the truths about karting thanks to my experience with them. But you are exactly correct there, no 2 karts are the same. No matter how much you try to make the "weight factor" as balanced as you can.

I'm down. Let's go.

bbuuttt u also have those pro guys doing it... so its gotta count for something!

m4a1mustang · 04-29-2013, 09:11 PM

No one is saying you did better because of weight. I'm saying I was not up there with you because of my weight disadvantage. I know I can wheel it and can run up front in equal equipment.

Whatever, though. We'll sort it all out next time.

Masa · 04-29-2013, 09:13 PM

Less talk, more planning for next kart session!

eastwest2300 · 04-29-2013, 09:16 PM

Hey steve, I didnt start this argument, you cant blame this one on me...

eastwest2300 · 04-29-2013, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

Hey steve, I didnt start this argument, you cant blame this one on me...

m4a1mustang · 04-29-2013, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

Hey steve, I didnt start this argument, you cant blame this one on me...

Still your fault.

eastwest2300 · 04-29-2013, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Still your fault.

I knew somehow you guys would blame it on me...

Z Stig · 04-29-2013, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

Hey steve, I didnt start this argument, you cant blame this one on me...

MightyBobo · 04-29-2013, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

What gauntlet did I throw?

Yes I've karted plenty of times before, that's why I enjoy doing it.

How is it illogical? If the lighter person pushed more, they would have beaten me. So it's perfectly logical. So it's not A lightweight or B skill. It's a combination of Both.

I'm not saying weight doesn't matter at all. I'm saying that you point me out as being "lightweight" when there were lighter people that were not surpassing my times. So it's not Just about weight.

I would say Josh was around my weight class, and I assume with the events you guys have done, he has a lot more "racing/High performance" driving than me. Yes I know karting is a whole nother realm, but the same ideals still apply.

You could have then at any time.

Yes, most of the cars we ran had trap doors on the left side to add ballast. That's what all the super cool douches were doing in the racing suits so they were as close to equal weight as they could be.

So what you are saying is, I'm fatter than you, and on my very first time out karting EVER, I was only 1 second slower for my fastest lap, and showing consistent improvement every single time out?

Now I understand :-)

And yes, if the lighter person pushed more, they would have beaten you potentially, assuming their skill was up to snuff. But they didn't. Does that mean weight doesn't matter, however? Nope. You are making the assumption that just because we have done HPDE that we are automatically excellent kart drivers? Lol. ****, my first run, my best lap was only 70 seconds. Second? 66.87. Third? 64.6. Final? 64.1. Next session would be in the 63's, I promise you.

Your AVERAGE speed was a full 3 seconds faster than almost everyone your FIRST run.

What I just proved is, in only 4 runs, I was able to consistently drop my times each time out (both average, and fastest lap). THAT is where my HPDE came in handy.

This is about the same as us both hitting Shenandoah, with my experience against you fresh out for your first HPDE. Except you'd need to close the gap between you and myself for lap times and consistency within only 4 HPDE sessions. That is practically impossible and I'd never expect you to do it, nor would I say anything about it lol.

So what Steve and I are saying is, you are barking up the wrong tree here, and for now that black flag will just have to haunt you :-P

Sent from my Galaxy S3

aniceh · 04-29-2013, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

So what you are saying is, I'm fatter than you, and on my very first time out karting EVER, I was only 1 second slower for my fastest lap, and showing consistent improvement every single time out?

Now I understand :-)

And yes, if the lighter person pushed more, they would have beaten you potentially, assuming their skill was up to snuff. But they didn't. Does that mean weight doesn't matter, however? Nope. You are making the assumption that just because we have done HPDE that we are automatically excellent kart drivers? Lol. ****, my first run, my best lap was only 70 seconds. Second? 66.87. Third? 64.6. Final? 64.1. Next session would be in the 63's, I promise you.

Your AVERAGE speed was a full 3 seconds faster than almost everyone your FIRST run.

What I just proved is, in only 4 runs, I was able to consistently drop my times each time out (both average, and fastest lap). THAT is where my HPDE came in handy.

This is about the same as us both hitting Shenandoah, with my experience against you fresh out for your first HPDE. Except you'd need to close the gap between you and myself for lap times and consistency within only 4 HPDE sessions. That is practically impossible and I'd never expect you to do it, nor would I say anything about it lol.

So what Steve and I are saying is, you are barking up the wrong tree here, and for now that black flag will just have to haunt you :-P

Sent from my Galaxy S3

Are you calling me FAT?!?

MightyBobo · 04-29-2013, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

For ***** and giggles,

the RX7 carts are rougly 240lbs with 9 hp.

With a 150 lb driver that's 43.3 lbs per HP

With a 250lb driver that's 54.44 lbs per hp.

Not to mention the braking and cornering advantage with less weight to hustle around.

That just means the fatter person has to drive better. A lot better. Lol

Sent from my Galaxy S3

m4a1mustang · 04-29-2013, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

That just means the fatter person has to drive better. A lot better. Lol

Sent from my Galaxy S3

Yeah but with a skilled light driver (aka Chris) you can't make that time up. For 250lbs I drove the f*ck out of that kart.

Masa · 04-29-2013, 09:24 PM

A little derailment here, looking at our times... I would really love to see some footage of the drivers running sub 1 minute times. I want to see what lines they take lol.

..:: Club Speed Top Time ::..

XwChriswX · 04-29-2013, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Masa

A little derailment here, looking at our times... I would really love to see some footage of the drivers running sub 1 minute times. I want to see what lines they take lol.

..:: Club Speed Top Time ::..

Just so we're clear, those are AVG times, not fastest lap times correct??

m4a1mustang · 04-29-2013, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

Just so we're clear, those are AVG times, not fastest lap times correct??

Pretty sure those are fastest laps.

04-29-2013, 09:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	No one is saying you did better because of weight. I'm saying I was not up there with you because of my weight disadvantage. I know I can wheel it and can run up front in equal equipment. Whatever, though. We'll sort it all out next time. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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Masa A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Annapolis, MD Posts: 2,237 Drives: Family Cars Rep Power: 21	A little derailment here, looking at our times... I would really love to see some footage of the drivers running sub 1 minute times. I want to see what lines they take lol. ..:: Club Speed Top Time ::.. __________________ BMW 340i Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk

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