Nissan 370Z Forum

Nissan 370Z Forum (http://www.the370z.com/)
-   MAZOC (http://www.the370z.com/mazoc/)
-   -   MAZOC Karting Challenge 27 April (Sat.) (http://www.the370z.com/mazoc/68307-mazoc-karting-challenge-27-april-sat.html)

StangerGT 04-30-2013 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aniceh (Post 2294127)
So, for my own benefit and so I may best learn from and enjoy my driving experiences, what is your recommended progression? Shouldn't I have a base level of comfort with my own vehicle before signing up for HPDE or AutoX? When is it enough?

Really... either one would work. Ultimately, at either event you go at your own pace. You may have an instructor giving you tips, or trying to give you confidence... but no one is holding a gun to your head to go faster.

Overall I personally like HPDE better. But AutoX would be a good start to, its probably a bit safer, and its cheaper. More room for mistake.

If you go the HPDE route, you could jump in with the group that normally goes. I am guessing Rob will be going later this year... sadly I will only be able to do one =/


EDIT: you could always come to the May HPDE event (or any other) if you are not doing ZDayZ... and get an incentive ride from someone. Thats what I did my first time. Got me hooked instantly. You just walk down to the pits and ask for a ride when the more advanced groups go out.

b1adesofcha0s 04-30-2013 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masa (Post 2293981)
2nd place is the first loser :|

If you ain't first, you're last!

Quote:

Originally Posted by aniceh (Post 2294127)
So, for my own benefit and so I may best learn from and enjoy my driving experiences, what is your recommended progression? Shouldn't I have a base level of comfort with my own vehicle before signing up for HPDE or AutoX? When is it enough?

Nah it's better and safer to get comfortable in a closed environment like HPDE or AutoX. If you screw something up, it won't be as bad as doing so on the street. If you've done a cruise then you should be able to handle either.

The important thing to know about AutoX/HPDE is that you go at whatever pace you feel comfortable and can handle. You don't have to have a certain skill level to be able to do them. If you want to go really slow, you can do so. Just signal for anyone stuck behind you to pass and you can continue at your own pace. The idea is to start from wherever you are and slowly build speed as you get better and better.

aniceh 04-30-2013 08:25 PM

Thanks, guys. I'd love to talk with you about your experiences at the next meet.

b1adesofcha0s 04-30-2013 08:26 PM

Are you going to the AAM meet this Saturday? I will be there.

aniceh 04-30-2013 08:27 PM

Barring unforseen circumstances, I'll be at the AAM event this Saturday. Should be fun and informative! I've never seen their facility before.

StangerGT 04-30-2013 08:32 PM

i think one of my calipers is seizing... but aside from that (or if i dont get the parts in time) i may go.

b1adesofcha0s 04-30-2013 08:32 PM

It's really nice and a lot of nice cars as well.

MightyBobo 04-30-2013 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aniceh (Post 2294174)
Thanks, guys. I'd love to talk with you about your experiences at the next meet.

Driving a car fast is an extremely unforgiving art. Professionals make it look so easy, but the level they are performing at is the equivalent of a jogger versus an Olympic runner. The absolute worst place to find the limit is on the street - you're thinking a bit backwards as far as being "comfortable" in your car. It's the opposite: you go out with a professional to learn your own car, and then on the STREET you will be more comfortable.

So, my recommendation? Try a little AutoX or two. Then move up to HPDE.

m4a1mustang 04-30-2013 08:44 PM

Or just learn on the street like the pros did. :)

MightyBobo 04-30-2013 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2294217)
Or just learn on the street like the pros did. :)

Gahd dahmnit, Steef.

aniceh 04-30-2013 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 2294212)
Driving a car fast is an extremely unforgiving art. Professionals make it look so easy, but the level they are performing at is the equivalent of a jogger versus an Olympic runner. The absolute worst place to find the limit is on the street - you're thinking a bit backwards as far as being "comfortable" in your car. It's the opposite: you go out with a professional to learn your own car, and then on the STREET you will be more comfortable.

So, my recommendation? Try a little AutoX or two. Then move up to HPDE.

Trust me, I know it's a technical skill that takes practice to master. I make no such mistake of thinking that it's as easy as the pros can make it look. The main problem that I've run into is that there are differing schools of thought on how best to approach the learning process, and everyone is completely in the tank for their own. I have no preconceived notions, or extreme loyalties, I just want to be smart.

shadoquad 04-30-2013 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aniceh (Post 2294226)
Trust me, I know it's a technical skill that takes practice to master. I make no such mistake of thinking that it's as easy as the pros can make it look. The main problem that I've run into is that there are differing schools of thought on how best to approach the learning process, and everyone is completely in the tank for their own. I have no preconceived notions, or extreme loyalties, I just want to be smart.

The answer is, any one of these methods will teach you something. There is no wrong answer. You can even learn things in a public place without endangering folks. There are many lessons to learn

MightyBobo 04-30-2013 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 2294233)
The answer is, any one of these methods will teach you something. There is no wrong answer. You can even learn things in a public place without endangering folks. There are many lessons to learn

This is true.

Just depends on what you want to "learn". For instance, oversteer/countersteer is NOT something you want to really practice on a narrow, tree-lined road. But, you COULD practice "finding the line" at almost any speed. I ALWAYS do that when taking on and off ramps, personally.

m4a1mustang 04-30-2013 09:03 PM

On and off ramps are also good for maximizing your drift style points.

aniceh 04-30-2013 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 2294249)
This is true.

Just depends on what you want to "learn". For instance, oversteer/countersteer is NOT something you want to really practice on a narrow, tree-lined road. But, you COULD practice "finding the line" at almost any speed. I ALWAYS do that when taking on and off ramps, personally.

I want to learn it ALL. :|

:roflpuke2:

Seriously, I want to learn how to drive the car in a way that is controlled yet still feels exhilarating.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:10 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2