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MightyBobo 04-29-2013 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 2292433)
AutoX is a good learning tool, but I hated that you had to wait there all freaking day for like 4 mins total of driving time spread throughout the day. Once I had my first track experience, I stopped caring about AutoX :p

I'm not saying you should live or die by AutoX, but it's a good place to REALLY get to toss a car around relatively safely. HPDE is superior overall I believe, but both have their benefits.

m4a1mustang 04-29-2013 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 2292435)
I didn't learn to drive from AutoX or HPDE, and at my first HPDE, I was quite fast.

I learned an awful lot from video games and hooligan friends and having been taught well from the beginning. Not saying that I advise hooliganism.

:iagree:

PC sim racing and hooliganism is how I learned. I actually have an interesting theory about why I require no steering feedback whatsoever to be fast, but I'll save that for another day.

Z Stig 04-29-2013 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 2292164)
Hey steve, I didnt start this argument, you cant blame this one on me...

:bowrofl::bowrofl:

b1adesofcha0s 04-29-2013 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 2292438)
Also, its relatively cheap. $50 for a day, usually.

There's also the option of doing a hyperdrive for $50. It's just one 25 min session on the track on the same day as an HPDE event. Whichever works best for you, both are good options. I did an AutoX, then a hyperdrive, and now an HPDE. Each one was progressively more fun than the last.

b1adesofcha0s 04-29-2013 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 2292446)
I'm not saying you should live or die by AutoX, but it's a good place to REALLY get to toss a car around relatively safely. HPDE is superior overall I believe, but both have their benefits.

Yeah that's true, I was just sharing my experience with AutoX. It's much easier since you don't have to drive all the way to freaking WV.

XwChriswX 04-29-2013 11:11 PM

When you AutoX, is is broken down by driver skill level, or by car modifications?

Cause those could potentially put someone in different levels they may/may not be ready for?

b1adesofcha0s 04-29-2013 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2292459)
When you AutoX, is is broken down by driver skill level, or by car modifications?

Cause those could potentially put someone in different levels they may/may not be ready for?

Doesn't really matter. You're pretty much doing the course on your own. Different classes only matter if you're trying to compete.

aniceh 04-29-2013 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 2292446)
I'm not saying you should live or die by AutoX, but it's a good place to REALLY get to toss a car around relatively safely. HPDE is superior overall I believe, but both have their benefits.

At this stage of the game I will concede that I have EVERYTHING to learn, and can't afford to rule out any source of knowledge or experience.

XwChriswX 04-29-2013 11:14 PM

I would like to AutoX, for the thrill of it, but I'm useless without the set lines of a track. The cones thing just doesn't work for me and I'd miss a ton of them.

b1adesofcha0s 04-29-2013 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2292466)
I would like to AutoX, for the thrill of it, but I'm useless without the set lines of a track. The cones thing just doesn't work for me and I'd miss a ton of them.

You never know until you try it. I had an instructor sitting with me and he'd point out the correct way around the cones if I started to do it wrong.

shadoquad 04-29-2013 11:16 PM

I'm going to line up another HPDE at some point. I don't want to AutoX. The thrill of driving a real racing circuit is just amazing. To me, it's worth the extra coin.

MightyBobo 04-29-2013 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2292459)
When you AutoX, is is broken down by driver skill level, or by car modifications?

Cause those could potentially put someone in different levels they may/may not be ready for?

What Shahid said. But, if you were COMPETING, your car would get stomped there. You have too many modications lol.

XwChriswX 04-29-2013 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 2292470)
You never know until you try it. I had an instructor sitting with me and he'd point out the correct way around the cones if I started to do it wrong.

But if I do that, I won't be able to go full speed because I'm having to pay more attention to staying on course than my driving. :icon17:

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 2292474)
I'm going to line up another HPDE at some point. I don't want to AutoX. The thrill of driving a real racing circuit is just amazing. To me, it's worth the extra coin.

:iagree: Real track ftw. Instructors and lessons and learning, then performance coaching.

XwChriswX 04-29-2013 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 2292476)
What Shahid said. But, if you were COMPETING, your car would get stomped there. You have too many modications lol.

Yes, I know you hate my car. :icon17:

MightyBobo 04-29-2013 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2292481)
Yes, I know you hate my car. :icon17:

No, really - when SCCA runs competition AutoX, the modifications you have would put you in a class SO DIFFICULT, you'd get absolutely wrecked by Miata's running 305's up front and back hahaha.


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