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Originally Posted by MightyBobo No, really - when SCCA runs competition AutoX, the modifications you have would put you in a class SO DIFFICULT, you'd get absolutely wrecked by Miata's

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Old 04-29-2013, 11:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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No, really - when SCCA runs competition AutoX, the modifications you have would put you in a class SO DIFFICULT, you'd get absolutely wrecked by Miata's running 305's up front and back hahaha.
Oh no, I completely get that bit. Which is why I wouldn't run in that class.


So basically it's setup to the fact that you can't mod first, and grow into them?

I understand why YOU do what you do, and it makes complete sense... But there is another thought pattern here. Guess thats another reason why AutoX isn't for me.
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I would like to AutoX, for the thrill of it, but I'm useless without the set lines of a track. The cones thing just doesn't work for me and I'd miss a ton of them.
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I would like to AutoX, for the thrill of it, but I'm useless without the set lines of a track. The cones thing just doesn't work for me and I'd miss a ton of them.
You never know until you try it. I had an instructor sitting with me and he'd point out the correct way around the cones if I started to do it wrong.
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I would like to AutoX, for the thrill of it, but I'm useless without the set lines of a track. The cones thing just doesn't work for me and I'd miss a ton of them.
When I went out to fed ex field in the SCCA... we only had one guy really eff up the course... mostly, the track is well marked, i think i missed one cone the entire event.

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You never know until you try it. I had an instructor sitting with me and he'd point out the correct way around the cones if I started to do it wrong.
In AutoX... i didnt have an instructor =/

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No, really - when SCCA runs competition AutoX, the modifications you have would put you in a class SO DIFFICULT, you'd get absolutely wrecked by Miata's running 305's up front and back hahaha.
heh, even my mods (at the time) put me into a class with a highly modified Lambo/Ferrari/Viper/Vettes...

I just ran against myself... really I was no where near the level to compete with even the "ok" guys in crappy 80s civics lolz

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Oh no, I completely get that bit. Which is why I wouldn't run in that class.


So basically it's setup to the fact that you can't mod first, and grow into them?

I understand why YOU do what you do, and it makes complete sense... But there is another thought pattern here. Guess thats another reason why AutoX isn't for me.
What does it matter what group you are placed in? just take your track times, and if you want, compare it to friends, but really just race against yourself... the only way the "class" matters is if you want to compete for a trophy or something... and even with your karting experiance, you wont be even close to that.

I have a friend that refuses to go to HDPE because he feels its a waste of money to go racing, with someone in the car telling him what to do... he feels as though he should be able to spend the money to... RACE... which kills me. I told him he will just end up killing someone. He doesnt understand the learning part.

AutoX isnt about racing anyone... just race your own time or have a nice competition between friends... who cares about the mods/skill/other people. They sure as hell wont care about ur car... no matter what the mods done.

If you plan on staying in AutoX and running in their series, then yeah I get the car issue, but if all you plan on doing is using it as a step up into HDPE for the experiance... then go ballz out with your modded car and beat the bajesus out of it.
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When I went out to fed ex field in the SCCA... we only had one guy really eff up the course... mostly, the track is well marked, i think i missed one cone the entire event.



In AutoX... i didnt have an instructor =/



heh, even my mods (at the time) put me into a class with a highly modified Lambo/Ferrari/Viper/Vettes...

I just ran against myself... really I was no where near the level to compete with even the "ok" guys in crappy 80s civics lolz



What does it matter what group you are placed in? just take your track times, and if you want, compare it to friends, but really just race against yourself... the only way the "class" matters is if you want to compete for a trophy or something... and even with your karting experiance, you wont be even close to that.

I have a friend that refuses to go to HDPE because he feels its a waste of money to go racing, with someone in the car telling him what to do... he feels as though he should be able to spend the money to... RACE... which kills me. I told him he will just end up killing someone. He doesnt understand the learning part.

AutoX isnt about racing anyone... just race your own time or have a nice competition between friends... who cares about the mods/skill/other people. They sure as hell wont care about ur car... no matter what the mods done.

If you plan on staying in AutoX and running in their series, then yeah I get the car issue, but if all you plan on doing is using it as a step up into HDPE for the experiance... then go ballz out with your modded car and beat the bajesus out of it.
I'm just a competitive person. I love racing. My problem with AutoX is more my inability to learn the course than anything. I know you walk it, and see 20 other cars do it, but for me, not having the solid lines and barriers to mark turns makes it difficult @ speed. That's why I like track runs. I would be up to do an AutoX event if we could get one for all of us?

I just want to learn, and wherever the knowledge comes from I'm thankful.
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I'm just a competitive person. I love racing. My problem with AutoX is more my inability to learn the course than anything. I know you walk it, and see 20 other cars do it, but for me, not having the solid lines and barriers to mark turns makes it difficult @ speed. That's why I like track runs. I would be up to do an AutoX event if we could get one for all of us?

I just want to learn, and wherever the knowledge comes from I'm thankful.
You are thinking to much into it tho... the speed is low. You really dont go that fast. they put out plenty of cones, and after one or two runs you basically know what to do.

And if you want to be competitive, keep in mind that outside of your local group here, you will probubly be demolished by the people who normally go to these things (we all would).

And worst case... you take out a cone... oh well...
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I'm going to line up another HPDE at some point. I don't want to AutoX. The thrill of driving a real racing circuit is just amazing. To me, it's worth the extra coin.
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You never know until you try it. I had an instructor sitting with me and he'd point out the correct way around the cones if I started to do it wrong.
But if I do that, I won't be able to go full speed because I'm having to pay more attention to staying on course than my driving.

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Real track ftw. Instructors and lessons and learning, then performance coaching.
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Aniceh - I think the best advice for you is to try everything and see what you like best.

Chris - If you worried about going full speed, you definitely want to be on a real track instead of AutoX.

Al - I completely agree with you. Real track was so much fun, I'm sticking with just HPDE's from now on.
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Aniceh - I think the best advice for you is to try everything and see what you like best.

Chris - If you worried about going full speed, you definitely want to be on a real track instead of AutoX.

Al - I completely agree with you. Real track was so much fun, I'm sticking with just HPDE's from now on.
Let me know when you plan to go again, will you stay in the beginner group, or move up to the next level now that you've done one before?
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