MAZOC Firearms

eastwest2300 · 06-28-2013, 12:01 PM

Thats a bad way to hold a pistol...

VaGntlmn · 06-28-2013, 09:00 PM

If there's another thread for this, please let me know, but anybody have any good suggestions for a daily carry in Va?
The only real requirement I have is I want a physical safety.
It can be a compact or a sub-compact.
Oh, and I shoot 40's.
Comments?

MightyBobo · 06-28-2013, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VaGntlmn

If there's another thread for this, please let me know, but anybody have any good suggestions for a daily carry in Va?
The only real requirement I have is I want a physical safety.
It can be a compact or a sub-compact.
Oh, and I shoot 40's.
Comments?

Glock G27?

VaGntlmn · 06-28-2013, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Glock G27?

Good gun, reliable, sub-compact; but no physical safety.
I'd be scared to carry it chambered w/o the safety.
But good start - thanks.

MightyBobo · 06-28-2013, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by VaGntlmn

Good gun, reliable, sub-compact; but no physical safety.
I'd be scared to carry it chambered w/o the safety.
But good start - thanks.

You could always wait for the XDS .40? It's almost guaranteed to come out...or step up to the XDS .45? lol

Actually, just did some searching - apparently, the XDS .40 should be out around August.

Or, of course, the already-out XDm Compact .40.

m4a1mustang · 06-28-2013, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by VaGntlmn

Good gun, reliable, sub-compact; but no physical safety.
I'd be scared to carry it chambered w/o the safety.
But good start - thanks.

May I ask why you need a physical safety? The Glocks are very safe with a round chambered so long as they are kept in a holster covering the trigger guard. They cannot fire unless you willingly pull the trigger.

I carry my G26 and/or G19 and they are chambered 24/7.

If you absolutely MUST have a physical safety, take a look at the Ruger SR40C. I think the S&W M&P 40C also has a manual thumb safety.

MightyBobo · 06-29-2013, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

May I ask why you need a physical safety? The Glocks are very safe with a round chambered so long as they are kept in a holster covering the trigger guard. They cannot fire unless you willingly pull the trigger.

I carry my G26 and/or G19 and they are chambered 24/7.

If you absolutely MUST have a physical safety, take a look at the Ruger SR40C. I think the S&W M&P 40C also has a manual thumb safety.

VABAM · 06-29-2013, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VaGntlmn

If there's another thread for this, please let me know, but anybody have any good suggestions for a daily carry in Va?
The only real requirement I have is I want a physical safety.
It can be a compact or a sub-compact.
Oh, and I shoot 40's.
Comments?

More than a few 1911 manufactures make compact 1911s in 40.
Can't think of a specific make/model of the top of my head.

VABAM · 06-29-2013, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ZCarMan

Yep, you are spot on. Mac shows how by using a "limp wrist" technique how you can induce the Glock 9mm to fail to go into battery. He actually has to try very hard to induce it because he naturally fires with a firm grip. He brings up a good point in that when you are purchasing a handgun to know what you want it for. If for just target shooting then not necessarily an issue unless you can't correct your firing technique or if you are a petite female and just can't get the grip necessary. However, if purchasing for home defense or concealed carry and you are injured, that should make you pause in deciding which gun to purchase. That all goes back to your sound recommendation to fire the gun first before purchasing in order to make sure.

RandyD · 06-29-2013, 07:17 AM

the hard part is finding one to shoot before you buy it...
the ranges typically only have a few selections to rent - as i learned when hunting for my 1911...

Z Stig · 06-29-2013, 07:25 AM

Springfield makes the EMP in .40. They are not cheap (over 1k new). They shoot great though. I had a version in 9mm, but the weight of it was more than I liked for concealed carry. Good luck finding what you want.

eastwest2300 · 06-29-2013, 07:51 AM

I have the Glock 26 & 27, never had an accidental discharge (thank goodness) carrying them concealed.. I'm a Glock fan though.

VaGntlmn · 06-29-2013, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

May I ask why you need a physical safety?
If you absolutely MUST have a physical safety, take a look at the Ruger SR40C. I think the S&W M&P 40C also has a manual thumb safety.

I admit that I am a control freak and I just want that "extra" level of safety. No other reason.
I've been looking at the M&P, but wanted some other thoughts before I did anything; so thank you very much for the Ruger suggestion, that looks pretty nice.

DEpointfive0 · 06-29-2013, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by VaGntlmn

Good gun, reliable, sub-compact; but no physical safety.
I'd be scared to carry it chambered w/o the safety.
But good start - thanks.

I have a Springfield EMP.40 for carry.
It's not THAT small and it's heavy. For ME being a big guy, it fits in my jean pocket.

Also the G27 has THE WORST recoil out of any handgun I have owned, even/especially with the extended finger mag.
(I understand that if, god forbid, you had to USE it, that it wouldn't matter, BUT 99.99999999% of your shooting will be at the range, and shooting the 27 isn't pleasant to say the least)

ZCarMan · 06-29-2013, 12:31 PM

Smith and Wesson M&P 40 Shield has a physical manual safety.

SMITH AND WESSON MP40 SHIELD 40SW @ Sportsmans Outdoor Superstore:

There are several video reviews on Youtube as well for it.

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ZCarMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: MD Posts: 4,488 Drives: 09 Z34, 13 F-150 Rep Power: 26	Smith and Wesson M&P 40 Shield has a physical manual safety. SMITH AND WESSON MP40 SHIELD 40SW @ Sportsmans Outdoor Superstore: There are several video reviews on Youtube as well for it. Z Stig likes this. __________________ Jon Swift \| SPC \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| AAM \| Cobb \| Hawk \| Volk Racing \| Bridgestone Green Demon Eyes Last edited by ZCarMan; 06-29-2013 at 12:39 PM.

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