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ZCarMan

You might want to check again with your FFL. Many are now releasing after 8 days based upon when you purchased the firearm. Maryland Shall Issue (MSI) has filed suit against the MSP to force this issue and to some degree it has shown some results. This has been a major issue with FFLs and purchasers since originally the FFLs were not releasing. Several have now released but many others are still holding them.

Now I'm also reading that the NICS center is now refusing to provide NICS numbers to any MD FFLs for handguns (long guns they still provide NICS numbers to FFLs) and they are only releasing them to the MSP. This has essentially resulted in many FFLs who were releasing on the 8th day to stop out of fear of legal action.

I can't wait to move out of the so-called "Free State".

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ZCarMan

What I have read from several FFLs is that they did not want to be the target of any legal action should they release a firearm to a purchaser after the 7 day period to find out that some whackjob takes out a family or worse and then they are taken to court for liability because they were disapproved when MSP finally ran the NICS check. Even though it would fail, the costs associated with defending themselves would likely be tremendous if not catastrophic for some of the smaller FFLs.

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Z Stig

Makes sense to me. HUGE liability. I will not do a private sale to just anyone either. If I do not have direct knowlege that they have recently been allowed to purchase a firearm legally, I will not sell one to them. The only exception that I will make is if they have a USG issued security clearance, and even then it would be rare.

I have only sold a few in my days, because of the liability. I have been known to trade some in to the FFL that I was using to buy my next firearm.

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Crux

This is also a very valid hypothetical. It's also very sad that there are such ways around upholding your constitutional rights.

eastwest2300

Everyday I dont like the state of maryland just a little bit more..

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MightyBobo

Today is officially my 90th day waiting, btw.

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Kirkster

LoL. On Target released mine a while back. I was at around 65 days. I was one of the first bunch On Target released...

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MightyBobo

When did you put in your request? And I take it by "release", you mean that they chose to ignore MSP not getting back to them?

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Crux

Im having a firearm built, and its going to come real close to being finished around October. So I called on target last week to see if the runor was true that they're releasing firearms early/after 7 days and they told me they've decided not to do any more transfers.

m4a1mustang

VA folks... thinking about selling my G17 Gen 4. I don't ever use it, and honestly it's too big for my hand. The 19 is perfect.

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Kirkster

Yes, They are following the Maryland Law which is that they can release the firearm on the 8th day...

Not our fault that they can't do their job in a timely fashion. Their IT is so bass aquards that they have to check 17 different databases... What a bunch of tools...

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MightyBobo

They are cops, not computer techs lol.

But that is still sad.

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ZCarMan

I got my Designated Collector Application approval letter on Saturday! WooHoo! Now if I just had some more money to buy more stuff!

On a separate note, MSP says they've hired 65 more people to help with processing the background checks (both NICS and MD State) in time for the 1 October date that SB281 kicks in. Sad thing is that I suspect that when 1 October rolls around, regulated firearms purchases will drop dramatically, much to the satisfaction of Owe Malley and the rest of the Progressive numbskulls in Annapolis.

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ZCarMan

FYI, there is a group known as "No More Names" which is an action group of Bloomberg's Mayors Against Illegal Guns (MAIG) that is sponsoring a "bus tour" whereby they send a group of people to towns around the country to read the names of people killed by guns. They have indicated they'll be in Blackburg, VA tomorrow and down in Raleigh as well as Atlanta so far. They don't release all the dates ahead of time because they don't want protesters to ruin it for them but that has not worked.

No More Names | The national drive to reduce gun violence

Here are the dates and locations that I've found so far if you wanted to attend to counter protest:

Date: Friday (Tomorrow), 21 June @9:30AM
City: Blacksburg, Virginia
Location: Marcia Park
200 Clay St SW
Join Us for a Rally in Blacksburg | Demand Action

Date: Saturday, 22 June @10AM
City: Raleigh, North Carolina
Location: Moore Square Park
200 South Blount Street
Raleigh, NC 27601
Join Us for a Rally in Raleigh | Demand Action

Date: Monday, 24 June @11:30AM
City: Atlanta, Georgia
Location Georgia State Capitol
206 Washington Street SW
Atlanta, GA 30334
Join Us for a Rally in Atlanta | Demand Action

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