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m4a1mustang

wow... lame.

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eastwest2300

I didnt know that... damn that sucks.

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jayl

HI Guys,

I know the risks of posting this after knowing how hardcore everone on this thread is but I am hopeful to get very good info...

I have been wanting to get an Airgun pistol, something that I can take to a shooting range once in a while to get started, I have been very fond of guns since childhood, used to have an airgun rifle when I was a kid.

So far I have looked at a few different brands... crossman / daisy etc.

I am wanting to get one that has:
- atleast 400 + FPS
- semi automatic
- full metal, and
something that can shoot copper pellets or copper & plastic BB's ...

Is there one or some that you guys would recommend, I am thinking of spending under 100 for this...

Thanks,
jay

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m4a1mustang

I don't know of any range that will let you shoot an air gun? You could just get a regular gun.

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jayl

but with a regular gun... arent the law's more strict about carrying it (mainly to the range) etc... Also what if a real gun gets stolen? Just seemed easier to have a powerful airgun for "security" and some range time.. however it seems like i might have to first check if there is a range around that will allow using an airgun..

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m4a1mustang

The MD folks would have to chime in on transportation laws but you should be fine taking a real pistol to-from the range. If you are worried about it being stolen you could always lock it in a storage safe in your house. Otherwise if it's stolen you just need to report it to the police.

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MightyBobo

I wouldn't dare walk into a range with an air gun...just use your backyard? lol

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MightyBobo

A "powerful" air gun will probably do nothing but irritate an intruder, or scare him since he might not be able to tell what it is until you fire it. But you can guarantee if you DO have to fire and he finds out, your a$$ will get beat...

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m4a1mustang

I got shot in the neck by a 6mm bb going around 650fps. It just stung a bit and broke the skin.

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eastwest2300

Jay, just get you a real firearm, worry about all that other stuff later. Theres only one "you" and a lot of criminals out there that would love to do harm to you, so excersize your right to bear arms, and get you some real home defense and personal protection.

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MightyBobo

I'm HARDLY an outspoken gun rights person. However, if you are looking for home defense, jayl? Don't waste your time with an air gun to practice. Get the real deal and don't sweat the details...owning a weapon isn't nearly as bad as you think.

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eastwest2300

I definitely wouldnt trust my life with an air rifle, no way jack.

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TROOPER

Laws are not so bad on transportation... It doesn't even have to be locked.

As long as you are going to or from a gun store, a range, or a gunsmith/repair, you can transport it.

Vehicle must not be unattented during this time.... ie Don't stop at iHop on your way to the range.

It has to be in the trunk basically, out of easy reach.

And "separated" from the ammo, ie no loaded mags in the gun or stored "with" the gun.

Although you can transport mags loaded (just not in the gun), some ranges (Continental Arms) will tell you that you can't.
They won't even let you enter range with loaded mags.

My understanding of the term "separated" means you can have the gun inside a range bag, and even have the ammo on a pouch/pocket on the "outside" of the range bag.. That counts as separated.

As for an Airgun.. not sure what you mean by "security".. If you mean "home defense".. forget it.. you might as well hand over the airgun, and allow the criminal to beat you to death with it.

If anything get a .22 rifle, which you can use at any range, and also do small hunting with.

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MacCool

No. Relying on an airgun for self defense is a silly concept. Guns are designed to kill people, and that's an option that you have to have if you feel that you need a weapon to defend your life or the life of another.



There I must disagree. Owning a weapon is a huge responsibility. Not only do you have to find a secure place to store it, but you absolutely have to make sure that you know how it works, how to maintain it, how to use it, and most importantly when to use it. Statistically, it is still true that having a gun in the home makes you far more likely to injure yourself or friend/family than it is to use it to effectively to save your life. The only way to beat those odds are to get instruction, and practice with it regularly. And by instruction, I'm not talking about the the 4 hour permit-to-carry course most people have to take. I'm talking about additional courses afterward, and this is especially true if you're going to actually carry it on your person.

Do not believe, like so many Americans, that just buying a gun, bringing it home, and sticking it in your bedside table will automatically make you safer. If you don't train with it, real instruction, then the opposite will be true. The same is true IMHO if you just rely on your CCW course as all you need to make you an effective pistolero.