MAZOC Firearms

MacCool · 12-19-2011, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TROOPER

It's hard to tell, but my guess is the gas block got moved and is mis-aligned.

I find it hard to believe he used that much loctite that it blocked the hole or tube LOL

Yeh, I agree, but how could the gas block move if it's pinned? Also, no gunsmith that I know would use a set-screw gas block without dimpling the barrel so that at least the rear set screw is set into the dimple, with both the barrel pin and the set screw in the dimple keeping it from rotating. Usually the Rocksett is just a tiny dab...only enough to keep the set screws from backing out.

The barrels that I use, BCM and Centurion, all come from the factory dimpled for the rear set screw on a gas block. I would never rely on that, even with Rocksett, and I always have the gas block pinned (if I'm not using an FSB) in addition to the Rocksetted set screws.

I hope he didn't mis-drill the dimple (assuming he dimpled it) or pin the gas block off-axis. IOW, install the gas block with the gas hole and barrel port misaligned.

TROOPER · 12-19-2011, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool

Yeh, I agree, but how could the gas block move if it's pinned? Also, no gunsmith that I know would use a set-screw gas block without dimpling the barrel so that at least the rear set screw is set into the dimple, with both the barrel pin and the set screw in the dimple keeping it from rotating. Usually the Rocksett is just a tiny dab...only enough to keep the set screws from backing out.

The barrels that I use, BCM and Centurion, all come from the factory dimpled for the rear set screw on a gas block. I would never rely on that, even with Rocksett, and I always have the gas block pinned (if I'm not using an FSB) in addition to the Rocksetted set screws.

I hope he didn't mis-drill the dimple (assuming he dimpled it) or pin the gas block off-axis. IOW, install the gas block with the gas hole and barrel port misaligned.

I had the compensator/muzzle-break pinned, not the gas block, so I didn't have to pay the ATF any money for having a SBR

Anyway I'm sure I'll get the gas problem fixed next week

eastwest2300 · 12-19-2011, 05:40 PM

Damn, Trooper, sorry to hear that bro. Im sure it'll all turn out for the best.

MacCool · 12-19-2011, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TROOPER

I had the compensator/muzzle-break pinned, not the gas block, so I didn't have to pay the ATF any money for having a SBR

Anyway I'm sure I'll get the gas problem fixed next week

Ah.

IMHO, the gas block should always be pinned. In addition, the barrel should always be dimpled for at least one of the two set screws on a typical gas block. If these things aren't done, the gas block can rotate or slide forward when the set screws come loose (and they will), in which case the gun won't cycle. My fear about a local gunsmith doing the gas block pinning is actually pinning it partially rotated - more likely if he doesn't have the proper jigs for that particular barrel. This is even more of a problem if the barrel isn't factory-dimpled, which will index the gas block exactly vertically so the gas port in the barrel aligns perfectly with the hole in the gas block.

I tend to send my barrels for this kind of gunsmithing to either ADCO, AR15 Barrels, or Rainier. You might have great gunsmiths in your area (I don't, but given your experience, I'm not sure you do either). My local gunsmith is a friend and a great guy, but this kind of stuff isn't in his skill or tool set. But the companies above all do excellent work, and the barrel and gas system is such a critical part of the functionality of the rifle that that's where I have the work done.

VaGntlmn · 12-19-2011, 09:12 PM

Merry Christmas to me, Merry Christmas to me. Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas to me!!!!!!

Sig P226 Stainless Elite 40 w/ 2-12 round mags!!
I am SOOO looking forward to this!!!

m4a1mustang · 12-19-2011, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by VaGntlmn

Merry Christmas to me, Merry Christmas to me. Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas to me!!!!!!

Sig P226 Stainless Elite 40 w/ 2-12 round mags!!
I am SOOO looking forward to this!!!

eastwest2300 · 12-20-2011, 12:02 PM

Congrats Bill!

TROOPER · 12-20-2011, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by VaGntlmn

Merry Christmas to me, Merry Christmas to me. Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas to me!!!!!!

Sig P226 Stainless Elite 40 w/ 2-12 round mags!!
I am SOOO looking forward to this!!!

WooHoo. I love my P226

Does yours have the short reset trigger (SRT)

eastwest2300 · 12-20-2011, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TROOPER

WooHoo. I love my P226

Does yours have the short reset trigger (SRT)

I thought all Sig's had this feature, hmmm. guess not.

TROOPER · 12-20-2011, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

I thought all Sig's had this feature, hmmm. guess not.

Nope, optional.

Although standard on the TacOps and Elite versions

Dude, just go buy one now, and don't let these "Glock fan boys" tell you different

VaGntlmn · 12-20-2011, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TROOPER

WooHoo. I love my P226

Does yours have the short reset trigger (SRT)

Sure does!!!

eastwest2300 · 12-21-2011, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TROOPER

Nope, optional.

Although standard on the TacOps and Elite versions

Dude, just go buy one now, and don't let these "Glock fan boys" tell you different

Dude, I dont wanna buy one, we carry them on the job anyways. Im a Glock fan.. yup, I love the Glocks..lol

b1adesofcha0s · 12-22-2011, 12:22 AM

58 pages later and you're still talking about guns?

Not possible, I must have missed the derailing somewhere. Well I guess I can just start a new one

eastwest2300 · 12-22-2011, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

58 pages later and you're still talking about guns?

Not possible, I must have missed the derailing somewhere. Well I guess I can just start a new one

58 pages, and we have plenty more to come... Blades, dude you need to go buy you a firearm, its pretty cool dude.

Go ahead and excersize your 2nd amendment!

b1adesofcha0s · 12-22-2011, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

58 pages, and we have plenty more to come... Blades, dude you need to go buy you a firearm, its pretty cool dude.

Go ahead and excersize your 2nd amendment!

I don't have money for that sh1t! If I did, I have a long list of things to get for my car before I'd buy a gun

I can always rent one or borrow someone else's to go shooting. Which reminds me, whatever happened to that shooting meet we were planning? Paintball meet wouldn't be a bad idea either.

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