MAZOC Firearms

MightyBobo · 01-30-2012, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool

There I must disagree. Owning a weapon is a huge responsibility. Not only do you have to find a secure place to store it, but you absolutely have to make sure that you know how it works, how to maintain it, how to use it, and most importantly when to use it. Statistically, it is still true that having a gun in the home makes you far more likely to injure yourself or friend/family than it is to use it to effectively to save your life. The only way to beat those odds are to get instruction, and practice with it regularly. And by instruction, I'm not talking about the the 4 hour permit-to-carry course most people have to take. I'm talking about additional courses afterward, and this is especially true if you're going to actually carry it on your person.

Do not believe, like so many Americans, that just buying a gun, bringing it home, and sticking it in your bedside table will automatically make you safer. If you don't train with it, real instruction, then the opposite will be true. The same is true IMHO if you just rely on your CCW course as all you need to make you an effective pistolero.

Sorry, maybe I was acting a BIT too nonchalant. Obviously I feel proper training and the level of responsibility required is important to understand. I more meant that its just not as bad as he thinks, and if he takes the proper precautions and does what he's supposed to, its not that bad.

MacCool · 01-30-2012, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Sorry, maybe I was acting a BIT too nonchalant. Obviously I feel proper training and the level of responsibility required is important to understand. I more meant that its just not as bad as he thinks, and if he takes the proper precautions and does what he's supposed to, its not that bad.

I agree, it's not as bad as it seems if shooting is something that that person is interested in. The nightmare scenario is the person who is otherwise "non-enthusiastic" about firearms, has a threatening experience and reacts by going out, buying a gun, and putting in their bedside table. The opposite is the person who is otherwise "non-enthusiastic" about firearms, has a threatening experience and reacts by taking a firearms familiarization course (the NRA sponsors these in a million places across the country, then a CCW, buys a gun, takes Firearms Defense I, Firearms Defense II, practices with it on a regular basis, takes refreshers, then puts that gun in their bedside drawer. Now, it's impractical to believe that every firearms hater will ultimately become the Atalanta Lady, but you never know.

My wife is not a firearms enthusiast, but she is a woman of scary self-determination and totally believes in her right...obligation...to save her own life if necessary. She regularly takes firearms courses and will go to the range whether I go or not. Not to hang out, not because she loves to shoot, but because she believes there's nothing more dangerous than an untrained person with a gun and if she is going to take other people's lives into her hands, she had better be as good as she can possibly be. I admire the hell out of her.

Kirkster · 01-30-2012, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by VaGntlmn

Do any of you IDPA? (Internation Defensive Pistol Association)
Do you like it?

Yes, and yes...

Kirkster · 01-30-2012, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TROOPER

Guess who just added a brand new Beretta M9A1 to his collection......

when one face palm just is not enough...

Kirkster · 01-30-2012, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jayl

but with a regular gun... arent the law's more strict about carrying it (mainly to the range) etc... Also what if a real gun gets stolen? Just seemed easier to have a powerful airgun for "security" and some range time.. however it seems like i might have to first check if there is a range around that will allow using an airgun..

You can just see dirty Harry right now exclaiming that this here is the most powerful airgun in the world.. Go ahead make my day...

An airgun is fine for learning the fundamentals of marksmanship, but unless you want it shoved up your

I would not shoot an intruder with it..

Get one of us to take you to On Target or whatever range is closest and start you out right with something that won't intimidate you.... I think Steve and Darren have a bunch of euro pellet launchers...

Seriously owning a gun is a Right. If you don't exercise it you will loose it. It's not a big deal to own one in The People's Republic do Maryland... Darren already covered the transport issues and for the most part that is it...

jayl · 01-30-2012, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirkster

You can just see dirty Harry right now exclaiming that this here is the most powerful airgun in the world.. Go ahead make my day...

Understood.

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Originally Posted by Kirkster

Get one of us to take you to On Target or whatever range is closest and start you out right with something that won't intimidate you.... I think Steve and Darren have a bunch of euro pellet launchers...

I definitely want to go to a range with someone from here..

eastwest2300 · 01-30-2012, 11:54 PM

Jay, you can ride with me man, we can go to Maryland Small Arms range down in Upper Marlboro, I can atleast get you set on the Glock 9mm, and the .40cal. I have both, you may like.

TROOPER · 01-31-2012, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirkster

when one face palm just is not enough...

LOL, what's ya issue?

m4a1mustang · 01-31-2012, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TROOPER

LOL, what's ya issue?

Our 9s are intimidating his

.40 cal.

VaGntlmn · 01-31-2012, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Our 9s are intimidating his

.40 cal.

Like a 40 would be scared of a little old 9 - NOT!!

VaGntlmn · 01-31-2012, 04:00 PM

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Do any of you IDPA? (Internation Defensive Pistol Association)
Do you like it?

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Originally Posted by Kirkster

Yes, and yes...

Can you tell me more? I think it looks like fun.

eastwest2300 · 02-01-2012, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by VaGntlmn

Like a 40 would be scared of a little old 9 - NOT!!

I know right. .40 = knock down power

....and thats all that matters.

Kirkster · 02-02-2012, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by VaGntlmn

Can you tell me more? I think it looks like fun.

you need a holster and a jacket of some sort.... Yes it is fun. Much better than shooting at a static bulls eye target all the time.

I recommend these guys for the holster Comp-Tac

Investigate the local club near you and sign up for a match. nothing else to it...

Kirkster · 02-02-2012, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TROOPER

LOL, what's ya issue?

Clunky design.
Crap trigger.
9mm euro pellet.

but hey at least it is not one of those plastic pos striker guns with no safety...

VaGntlmn · 02-02-2012, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirkster

you need a holster and a jacket of some sort.... Yes it is fun. Much better than shooting at a static bulls eye target all the time.

I recommend these guys for the holster Comp-Tac

Investigate the local club near you and sign up for a match. nothing else to it...

Thanks!!

01-30-2012, 11:54 PM	#1072 (permalink)
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