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VABAM 05-20-2015 05:01 PM

Picked up 2 "toys" today. :tup:

[SPOILER]Tavor #2
It is going to be converted to 9mm so I can shoot it at local pistol ranges and 9mm is cheaper than 5.56. Both of my Tavors have parts coming. More to follow. :tup:
http://www.the370z.com/members/vabam...0-17-26-50.jpg

exsanity 05-21-2015 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 3204255)
Picked up 2 "toys" today. :tup:
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X Product Can Cannon upper
For those who don't know, with a mill-spec 5.56 blank, it can launch a full 12oz soda can, 105 yards at a 45 degree angle. :bowrofl:
http://www.the370z.com/members/vabam...0-17-18-55.jpg

So, Mike..

Mind passing me a beer? :roflpuke2:

VABAM 05-21-2015 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by exsanity (Post 3204748)
So, Mike..

Mind passing me a beer? :roflpuke2:

:icon18:
If you don't mind foam. :tup:

exsanity 05-21-2015 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 3204994)
:icon18:
If you don't mind foam. :tup:

:yum:

Sonny10MM 05-21-2015 01:34 PM

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Recently purchased a Sig 220 in 10MM. Shoots better overall than any 10MM I have ever had.

VABAM 05-21-2015 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonny10MM (Post 3205330)
Recently purchased a Sig 220 in 10MM. Shoots better overall than any 10MM I have ever had.

Nice! Looks like 10mm is becoming more popular. I have a Glock 20 Gen 4 with the 6" factory barrel and was thinking of getting the new Glock 40. I'm using my 10mm for critter defense and hunting. Discovering that Sig is making a 10mm changes things a little. Now if Sig makes a 6 inch barrel version (most states require 6" barrels for hunting) might have to get one. :tup:

Z Stig 05-22-2015 09:10 AM

[QUOTE=VABAM;3204255]Picked up 2 "toys" today. :tup:



How many cabins are within 105 yards of MAZOC's? We may have to find out at ZDAYZ 2016!!!

VABAM 05-22-2015 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Z Stig (Post 3206108)
How many cabins are within 105 yards of MAZOC's? We may have to find out at ZDAYZ 2016!!!

Got to shoot the can cannon today.
Too much fun but it kicks like 12 gauge buck shot.
Video inbound. :tup:

VABAM 07-29-2015 07:11 PM

New toy!
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Getting my long range on.
Savage Arms 10 FCP-SR
Have a scope from a previous project just no rings.

http://www.the370z.com/members/vabam...8-10fcp-sr.jpg

eastwest2300 07-29-2015 07:54 PM

pics.. where are the pics??

:eek:

BoneZ 07-29-2015 08:00 PM

[QUOTE=Z Stig;3206108]
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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 3204255)
Picked up 2 "toys" today. :tup:



How many cabins are within 105 yards of MAZOC's? We may have to find out at ZDAYZ 2016!!!

ZDayZ! :D

VABAM 07-29-2015 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 3270826)
pics.. where are the pics??

:eek:

:confused::confused::confused:

eastwest2300 07-29-2015 08:57 PM

I thought you were going to show us something cool. (behind the spoiler)

VABAM 07-29-2015 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 3270901)
I thought you were going to show us something cool. (behind the spoiler)

So the rifle pic not good enough for you. :stirthepot:

eastwest2300 07-29-2015 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 3270913)
So the rifle pic not good enough for you. :stirthepot:

Nope, not seeing it. Was it suppose to be attached?

VABAM 07-29-2015 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 3270940)
Nope, not seeing it. Was it suppose to be attached?

It was not attached. Posted it from my nonpublic album. For me I can see it on my laptop and phone, logged in and logged off. For my phone I'm not using a forum app.

I've posted it again in the below spoiler.
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VABAM 09-23-2015 04:40 PM

Psa!
 
PSA!

BATFE has ruled that the X Products Can Cannon when attached to an AR-15 lower is a SBR or AOW depending on the lower.

X Products Open Letter to Customers

BATFE Determination Letter

LennyK 09-23-2015 05:15 PM

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Nice Hardware...:woot::woot:

D.Stillwell 10-05-2015 12:55 PM

Nice. Glad I found this section :hello:

I have 3 guns:
FNH FNX9mm
Sig p226 40cal
Ruger GP100 357 Mag

Been going to practice at NRA for several months now, taking out small 3x3" targets at 10 yds now

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FPenvy 10-05-2015 01:10 PM

^^^


boys, I found you some fresh meat and guided him to the MAZOC section. enjoy :tiphat:

D.Stillwell 10-05-2015 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3322839)
^^^


boys, I found you some fresh meat and guided him to the MAZOC section. enjoy :tiphat:

That sounds kinda scary, boys + fresh meat...

Lol I digress..

Thanks for pointing me here FP!

FPenvy 10-05-2015 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by D.Stillwell (Post 3322843)
That sounds kinda scary, boys + fresh meat...

Lol I digress..

Thanks for pointing me here FP!

you should be afraid lol

enjoy the crew and be sure to look into more threads and the group website. maybe hit some meets and become a member :tiphat:

D.Stillwell 10-05-2015 01:18 PM

^^ For sure, now I have something to look into at work...

Thanks!

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MAMotorsports 10-07-2015 09:32 AM

idk how I missed this!

Is there anywhere in the MD/VA area for long range stuff? Have been thinking about bringing my .308 from back home out, but don't really want to if there is no place to stretch it out! Is my hunting gun that I leave back there for occasional use.

My current collection is pretty solid

-P226 MK25
-P229 9mm
-Kimber 1911 Tactical Custom HD II .45
-Rugar SR9c (Carry gun from when I didn't live in MD lol)

Have 2 AR15s based off Schreyer Weapons Systems Billet Upper and Lower with mostly Noveske parts all 5.56

-Mosberg 590A1 20"
-Benelli Over/Under for Clay usage

-Remington 700 .308


Found a few indoor ranges around me I will spend some time at this winter im guessing.

FPenvy 10-07-2015 09:33 AM

i'm still sad to admit that i didn't go shooting this summer at all. :(

think it's time to hit the range again.

D.Stillwell 10-07-2015 09:48 AM

Went shooting at NRA last night. Getting really good with my Sig 40....and I'm pretty much deadly acurate (pun intended) with my GP100..

There are 2 outdoor longer range places in the area that I know of. One is called 'Cresap rifle club' in Frederick MD...and the other I cant remember the name but its in WV and also an outdoor range :tiphat:


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ZCarMan 10-11-2015 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by D.Stillwell (Post 3324165)
Went shooting at NRA last night. Getting really good with my Sig 40....and I'm pretty much deadly acurate (pun intended) with my GP100..

There are 2 outdoor longer range places in the area that I know of. One is called 'Cresap rifle club' in Frederick MD...and the other I cant remember the name but its in WV and also an outdoor range :tiphat:


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There is Delmarva Sporting Clays and Rifle Range across the bridge. They have 100, 200, 300 and 500 yard.

Welcome to Delmarva Sporting Clays & Rifle Range

D.Stillwell 10-11-2015 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ZCarMan (Post 3326236)
There is Delmarva Sporting Clays and Rifle Range across the bridge. They have 100, 200, 300 and 500 yard.

Welcome to Delmarva Sporting Clays & Rifle Range

Nice, hell yeah. Thanks for that info!! :tiphat:

ZCarMan 10-11-2015 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by D.Stillwell (Post 3326237)
Nice, hell yeah. Thanks for that info!! :tiphat:

No problem, glad to help. :tiphat:

ZCarMan 10-15-2015 07:44 PM

And you folks in Virginia thought you were immune.

Gov. McAuliffe signs executive order on gun control measures | Local News - WDBJ7.com Central and Southwest VA

D.Stillwell 10-15-2015 08:23 PM

^^ Sounds like a bunch of BS and nothing is really going to change. No worries here...

VA will not be doing any open carry ban or round limit like MD, Richmond republicans old money will make sure of it.

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VABAM 10-15-2015 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by D.Stillwell (Post 3328986)
^^ Sounds like a bunch of BS and nothing is really going to change. No worries here...

VA will not be doing any open carry ban or round limit like MD, Richmond republicans old money will make sure of it.

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Yep just another we are going enforce stuff we should have already been enforcing so it looks like we care statement.

D.Stillwell 10-16-2015 05:48 AM

I'm still waiting for the day someone with a brain says you know....These kids getting shot, they needed a gun too, for self defense.

But Im not expecting anyone with a brain so.....I digress lol

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ZCarMan 10-25-2015 03:27 PM

Was looking at the various online ammo sites today and came across some really good ballistics testing information for short barreled handguns at Lucky Gunner. The site (linked) has a great data base spreadsheet that you can link to videos of the ballistics gel tests and gives you a quick ability to compare penetration of each vendor's particular offering. The video provides an overview of what and how it was all done.

Handgun Self-Defense Ammunition - Ballistic Testing Data

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZIYMTlf19A

Nixin 11-07-2015 07:17 PM

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A BIG hello to the Z owners in the US. Here is what we regular folks carry in Canada...

m4a1mustang 11-20-2015 12:04 PM

OK guys, I'm pretty sure I'm going to buy a Tavor. I used to have a BCM 16" mid-length AR which I loved, but I really enjoy the bullpup design and shorter OAL of the Tavor. I think it'd be great for fun as well as home defense crap.

VABAM 11-20-2015 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 3351663)
OK guys, I'm pretty sure I'm going to buy a Tavor. I used to have a BCM 16" mid-length AR which I loved, but I really enjoy the bullpup design and shorter OAL of the Tavor. I think it'd be great for fun as well as home defense crap.

So the big question is; How do you like your Tavor?

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Black or with cream? :yum: :bowrofl:

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m4a1mustang 11-21-2015 05:17 PM

Well, I just ordered it through my LGS. Should be in sometime next week.

Now to order ammo, mags, optic, etc. LGS recommended the Geiselle trigger pack but I said I wanted to shoot it first before I decide. :icon17:

VABAM 11-22-2015 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 3352391)
Well, I just ordered it through my LGS. Should be in sometime next week.

Now to order ammo, mags, optic, etc. LGS recommended the Geiselle trigger pack but I said I wanted to shoot it first before I decide. :icon17:

Which color did you get?

Magpul Pmags work great in the Tavor just make sure you get the most current version, the M3. The previous version M2/MOE will not drop free on an open bolt. Out of 20 M2 mags I had, 3 would kind of drop free. The rest needed to be pulled out. There is also a concern about the bolt hold open being slightly activated with a loaded M2 mag causing excessive wear and tear on the bolt and the hold open (google it if you want detailed info). I didn't see this with my M2s but considering the drop free issue and that Pmags don't cost much, I gave all my M2s to my dad and bought all new M3s for all my rifles.

Also the up coming Magpul D-60 Pmag, 60 round drum mag, will be the first drum mag that will be compatible with the Tavor. Because of how the Tavor's bolt is designed and how AR-15 drum mags normally work, this keep the bolt from closing on a Tavor with previous drum mags. Also the D-60 will be half the price. Most drum mags go for around $300 or more. The D-60 MSRP is $130.

If you don’t mind the stock trigger but would like it to be a little lighter, google on how to remove the secondary sear reset spring. It is easy and the best part it’s free. It will drop the trigger pull weight from about 11 pounds to about 7-8 pounds. The drop in weight was nice and I felt like I had better trigger control too. Supposedly there a few people saying that the trigger sometimes doesn’t reset properly and you have to do a manual sear reset (pushing the trigger forward) with this mod. I put a few thousand rounds through my Tavor with this trigger mod and had no issues what so ever. This included rapid fire and purposely inducing jams and double feeds for training purposes. A couple of on-line/YouTube reviewers have done this mod and also have reported no issues.

Other than Geissele; ShootingSight and Timney both make Tavor trigger packs. Timney’s trigger is single stage vice Geissele and ShootingSight being 2 stage. I’ve heard nothing but good things about ShootingSight’s trigger pack the TAV-D. However Timney's has had a soft primer strike issue with theirs which they have supposedly fixed in the Gen2.

Geissele’s trigger has 2 parts; the Tavor Super Sabra Trigger Pack and the Tavor Super Sabra Lighting Trigger Bow. They are meant to be run together but they can be used independently from one another. The trigger bow replaces the physical trigger up front and has an adjustment screw that reduces/eliminates the take up in the transfer bar. This makes it feel like an AR-15. Also the tactile feel of the trigger bow is very nice. The trigger bow was not bad to install but you do have to take off the barrel which is simple and easy (with the proper tools). Swapping out trigger packs on the Tavor is very easy. Pull two pins; move the bolt release out of the way and it slides right out. The only negative thing about the Geissele trigger pack is that the tolerances are much tighter than the OEM trigger pack. This makes the pins a little difficult to get in the first few times.

Damn I think that is enough for now. :icon14:

m4a1mustang 11-22-2015 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 3352717)
Which color did you get?

Magpul Pmags work great in the Tavor just make sure you get the most current version, the M3. The previous version M2/MOE will not drop free on an open bolt. Out of 20 M2 mags I had, 3 would kind of drop free. The rest needed to be pulled out. There is also a concern about the bolt hold open being slightly activated with a loaded M2 mag causing excessive wear and tear on the bolt and the hold open (google it if you want detailed info). I didn't see this with my M2s but considering the drop free issue and that Pmags don't cost much, I gave all my M2s to my dad and bought all new M3s for all my rifles.

Also the up coming Magpul D-60 Pmag, 60 round drum mag, will be the first drum mag that will be compatible with the Tavor. Because of how the Tavor's bolt is designed and how AR-15 drum mags normally work, this keep the bolt from closing on a Tavor with previous drum mags. Also the D-60 will be half the price. Most drum mags go for around $300 or more. The D-60 MSRP is $130.

If you don’t mind the stock trigger but would like it to be a little lighter, google on how to remove the secondary sear reset spring. It is easy and the best part it’s free. It will drop the trigger pull weight from about 11 pounds to about 7-8 pounds. The drop in weight was nice and I felt like I had better trigger control too. Supposedly there a few people saying that the trigger sometimes doesn’t reset properly and you have to do a manual sear reset (pushing the trigger forward) with this mod. I put a few thousand rounds through my Tavor with this trigger mod and had no issues what so ever. This included rapid fire and purposely inducing jams and double feeds for training purposes. A couple of on-line/YouTube reviewers have done this mod and also have reported no issues.

Other than Geissele; ShootingSight and Timney both make Tavor trigger packs. Timney’s trigger is single stage vice Geissele and ShootingSight being 2 stage. I’ve heard nothing but good things about ShootingSight’s trigger pack the TAV-D. However Timney's has had a soft primer strike issue with theirs which they have supposedly fixed in the Gen2.

Geissele’s trigger has 2 parts; the Tavor Super Sabra Trigger Pack and the Tavor Super Sabra Lighting Trigger Bow. They are meant to be run together but they can be used independently from one another. The trigger bow replaces the physical trigger up front and has an adjustment screw that reduces/eliminates the take up in the transfer bar. This makes it feel like an AR-15. Also the tactile feel of the trigger bow is very nice. The trigger bow was not bad to install but you do have to take off the barrel which is simple and easy (with the proper tools). Swapping out trigger packs on the Tavor is very easy. Pull two pins; move the bolt release out of the way and it slides right out. The only negative thing about the Geissele trigger pack is that the tolerances are much tighter than the OEM trigger pack. This makes the pins a little difficult to get in the first few times.

Damn I think that is enough for now. :icon14:

:icon17:

Thank you for all that!

I ordered it in black. I'm about to order some M3 PMags and Aimpoint PRO.

Next up will be finding some open land to shoot on, otherwise I just get to plink at 25 yards indoors. :icon17:


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