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m4a1mustang 10-30-2011 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TROOPER (Post 1384138)

:icon18::icon18::icon18:

eastwest2300 10-30-2011 10:15 PM

That MP-5 is a beast, we get to use those in my job..:tup:

VaGntlmn 10-31-2011 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 1384304)
That MP-5 is a beast, we get to use those in my job..:tup:

What do you do for a living?
Never mind, I don't wanna know!!

VaGntlmn 10-31-2011 06:46 PM

Next Capital Expo Gun Show
 
the weekend of Nov 18. Unfortunately, that is a Md meet weekend.

eastwest2300 10-31-2011 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by VaGntlmn (Post 1385465)
What do you do for a living?
Never mind, I don't wanna know!!

Im a LEO, and I work for a Federal Govt Agency under DHS.

brian0128 11-01-2011 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by VaGntlmn (Post 1385466)
the weekend of Nov 18. Unfortunately, that is a Md meet weekend.

Is that the Nations Gun Show at the Expo Center? If so, I'll be there. I'm headed down with a friend to see if he can sell a few of his AR-15's and I'd like to pick up some more ammo without paying shipping.

Speaking of ammo, if anyone shoots .40, there is a good deal at SGA Ammo.

Special Purcahse - 500 rds - 40 cal Winchester Ranger 180 gr Bonded Hollow Point ammo Z Q4355 | SGAmmo.com

eastwest2300 11-01-2011 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by brian0128 (Post 1387385)
Speaking of ammo, if anyone shoots .40, there is a good deal at SGA Ammo.

Special Purcahse - 500 rds - 40 cal Winchester Ranger 180 gr Bonded Hollow Point ammo Z Q4355 | SGAmmo.com

Good stuff man, thanks brother!:tup:

TROOPER 11-10-2011 06:03 AM

Howdy Folks,

I'm building a new Carbine (16") Upper for CQB, and wanted feedback on barrels.

First off I don't like the look of the government profile barrels, so that's out.
Just a straight black 16" carbine length barrel (with M4 ramps, & .750 diameter), around the $200 region.

Also MUST be 5.56mm or Wylde chamber.. no ghey .223 ;)

I've already got a very highend 18" SPR and spent way toooo much on that LOL,
so this is a failry basic carbine.

Been looking at the BCM 16" Lightweight barrel:
BCM 16" LIGHT WEIGHT Barrel, Stripped

Other suggestions..??

m4a1mustang 11-10-2011 07:02 AM

BCM is good stuff.

If you are on a budget, look at some of Palmetto State Armory's stuff. They have the specs and reviews are starting to trickle in and they've all been good. I might build a PSA at some point...

MacCool 11-10-2011 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TROOPER (Post 1400723)
Howdy Folks,

I'm building a new Carbine (16") Upper for CQB, and wanted feedback on barrels.

First off I don't like the look of the government profile barrels, so that's out.
Just a straight black 16" carbine length barrel (with M4 ramps, & .750 diameter), around the $200 region.

Also MUST be 5.56mm or Wylde chamber.. no ghey .223 ;)

I've already got a very highend 18" SPR and spent way toooo much on that LOL,
so this is a failry basic carbine.

Been looking at the BCM 16" Lightweight barrel:
BCM 16" LIGHT WEIGHT Barrel, Stripped

Other suggestions..??

BCM is excellent, either the lightweight or the BFH. I've used both in 11.5 SBR builds and have no reason to be disappointed. I haven't used Centurion yet, but I think my next build, if there is one, will use a Centurion barrel. They are VERY highly thought of, and also use the thicker chrome lining (M249 barrel specs) that Noveske has made popular. And of course, there is always Noveske...their barrel reputation is legendary. Another reasonable choice would be Daniel Defense. For high round-count battle weapons, I like the concept of chrome lining, and the double-thickness chrome lining of the Noveske or Centurion steel barrel is even more attractive to me.

If you're looking at a true CQB-home defense type weapon, consider a shorter barrel. That would entail some ATF paperwork and about a 4 month wait, but in tight quarters an 11.5 SBR or a Mk18 would be a really good choice. Yet one other option that might be suitable would be a 14.5 inch barrel with a pinned flash hider to keep it 16-inch legal and avoid NFA registration. My 11.5's both have BattleComp 1.0's and I've been very pleased with the (relatively) small increase in flash and blast indoors compared to other compensators.

Good places to shop for the DD, BCM, or Noveske barrels would be Rainier Arms or G&R Tactical.

m4a1mustang 11-10-2011 07:28 AM

If you do buy through BCM direct, though, they ship quickly and include a lot of swag. I am a sucker for hats and stickers. :(

TROOPER 11-10-2011 08:47 AM

Yeah I've ordered quite a bit of stuff from BCM in the past, and my current free float rail that arrived yesterday.

I'm only going with the 16" to avoid paying the ATF the extra $200 for the SBR also.

Although I could consider a 14.5" and have it pinned, can I get any flash hider/compensator pinned?, and what's the cost?

I already have a YHM Phantom Compensator, would that work if it can be pinned to a 14.5" barrel??

I've also looked at Rainer barrels, but they're out of stock right now, and Noveske is way out of my budget for building a budget carbine at this point.

It's just a project to have a basic carbine, a nice to have rifle, just in case I ever need one ;) (SHTF).

I already have over $2000 in my 18" SPR, which would serve as a long distance rifle should I ever need it.

So the carbine is for fun basic shooting, and emergancy CQB, although my 1st line of defense would be my Sig P226 or shotgun.. not a rifle LOL

m4a1mustang 11-10-2011 08:52 AM

I have a 16" BCM BFH that I love. It is cumbersome in confined spaces, though. Better than my shotgun, but I'd rather have my shotgun in a confined space than the rifle. Or even my G26 since I can move around.

MacCool 11-10-2011 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TROOPER (Post 1400833)
Yeah I've ordered quite a bit of stuff from BCM in the past, and my current free float rail that arrived yesterday.

I'm only going with the 16" to avoid paying the ATF the extra $200 for the SBR also.

Although I could consider a 14.5" and have it pinned, can I get any flash hider/compensator pinned?, and what's the cost?

I already have a YHM Phantom Compensator, would that work if it can be pinned to a 14.5" barrel??

I've also looked at Rainer barrels, but they're out of stock right now, and Noveske is way out of my budget for building a budget carbine at this point.

It's just a project to have a basic carbine, a nice to have rifle, just in case I ever need one ;) (SHTF).

I already have over $2000 in my 18" SPR, which would serve as a long distance rifle should I ever need it.

So the carbine is for fun basic shooting, and emergancy CQB, although my 1st line of defense would be my Sig P226 or shotgun.. not a rifle LOL

You can have anything or your barrel, or nothing, as long as it's permanently attached and comes up 16 inches or greater when the ATF guy sticks a dowel rod down your barrel (like you're ever going to see an ATF agent out in the field). Some of the compensators on the market, like the BattleComp. can be had in a version pre-drilled for pinning and welding, most you have to drill and pin yourself. I don't know what that costs...you could price it with your local gunsmith or maybe better would be looking at the pricing at ADCO.

The biggest argument against compensators on indoor guns is that the noise and blast can be very distracting. Generally speaking, that's less of an issue with the Battlecomps from BCE or the Knight's compensator (that one is a real budget-buster). By reputation, the YHM, PWS, and Surefire brakes are way at the other end of the spectrum. I've shot in the shoot house with a guy who had an SBR and Surefire brake...it was really impressive (and unpleasant). You'd be better off with an A2 birdcage, and you can indeed have that pinned to a 14.5 inch barrel, but any pinned muzzle device isn't going to come off again without destroying the device and the end of the barrel.

eastwest2300 11-10-2011 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1400751)
If you do buy through BCM direct, though, they ship quickly and include a lot of swag. I am a sucker for hats and stickers. :(

:bowrofl::bowrofl: And you knock me for having all the groovy attachments on my AR....:ohsnap1:

m4a1mustang 11-10-2011 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 1401171)
:bowrofl::bowrofl: And you knock me for having all the groovy attachments on my AR....:ohsnap1:

LOL I put the stickers on my ammo boxes and wear the hats. At least they get some real world use. :bowrofl:

eastwest2300 11-10-2011 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1400849)
I'd rather have my shotgun in a confined space than the rifle. Or even my G26 since I can move around.

FIXED

Now Steve, I can agree with you, buddy.:iagree:

eastwest2300 11-10-2011 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1401176)
LOL I put the stickers on my ammo boxes and wear the hats. At least they get some real world use. :bowrofl:

hahahaha....:bowrofl::bowrofl:

Kirkster 11-10-2011 07:26 PM

A pistol is what you use to keep their heads down until you can get your rifle...

eastwest2300 11-10-2011 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirkster (Post 1401839)
A pistol is what you use to keep their heads down until you can get your rifle...

Aint that the truth, suppressive fire!!!!

TROOPER 11-11-2011 07:53 AM

Ordered my 14.5" barrel ;)

I'll find somewhere to get it pinned. Although Continental Arms wanted several hundred bucks for the job LOL

MacCool 11-11-2011 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TROOPER (Post 1402292)
Order my 14.5" barrel ;)

I'll find somewhere to get it pinned. Although Continental Arms wanted several hundred bucks for the job LOL

ADCO Firearms gets $30 for that job (not including cost of muzzle device)...Rainier Arms gets $40. I've had gunsmithing done both places, good experience, no problems.

eastwest2300 11-11-2011 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 1402325)
ADCO Firearms gets $30 for that job (not including cost of muzzle device)...Rainier Arms gets $40. I've had gunsmithing done both places, good experience, no problems.

There you go trooper, go to those places to have your work done.:tup:

brian0128 11-14-2011 06:25 PM

Who is going to the Nations Gun Show next weekend in VA? I'll be down on Sunday in case anyone wants to meet up for a late lunch after the show.

m4a1mustang 11-14-2011 06:29 PM

I am probably going to be there on Friday. I don't really need anything though so I might not go.

ZCarMan 11-14-2011 07:40 PM

I never knew grocery shopping could be so life threatening.

Man accidentally kills himself at Va. grocery store

Monday - 11/14/2011, 4:25pm ET

WASHINGTON - A Virginia man accidentally shot and killed himself while waiting in a vehicle outside a Spotsylvania County grocery store Sunday.

The Spotsylvania County Sheriff's Office says the 45-year-old man's wife was returning a movie at a Giant Food store in Harrison Crossing, Va. at about 5 p.m. Sunday. While the man was waiting in the driver's seat of the vehicle, it appears he tried to unbuckle his seat belt and mistakenly hit the trigger of his handgun, shooting himself in the hip area.

The man -- a Spotsylvania County resident -- immediately told his wife he had shot himself, authorities say. Bystanders and a sheriff's deputy who arrived at the scene administered first aid, but the man was pronounced dead at a hospital.

Officials say there were several children in the vehicle at the time of the incident as well.

m4a1mustang 11-14-2011 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCarMan (Post 1407240)
I never knew grocery shopping could be so life threatening.

Man accidentally kills himself at Va. grocery store

Monday - 11/14/2011, 4:25pm ET

WASHINGTON - A Virginia man accidentally shot and killed himself while waiting in a vehicle outside a Spotsylvania County grocery store Sunday.

The Spotsylvania County Sheriff's Office says the 45-year-old man's wife was returning a movie at a Giant Food store in Harrison Crossing, Va. at about 5 p.m. Sunday. While the man was waiting in the driver's seat of the vehicle, it appears he tried to unbuckle his seat belt and mistakenly hit the trigger of his handgun, shooting himself in the hip area.

The man -- a Spotsylvania County resident -- immediately told his wife he had shot himself, authorities say. Bystanders and a sheriff's deputy who arrived at the scene administered first aid, but the man was pronounced dead at a hospital.

Officials say there were several children in the vehicle at the time of the incident as well.

That sucks that he died but I have a hard time figuring out how someone could mistake a trigger for a seat belt buckle? Sounds to me like a lot of safety rules were not followed which resulted in the negligent discharge.

This kind of stuff just does not happen if you use your head.

shadoquad 11-14-2011 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1407479)
That sucks that he died but I have a hard time figuring out how someone could mistake a trigger for a seat belt buckle? Sounds to me like a lot of safety rules were not followed which resulted in the negligent discharge.

This kind of stuff just does not happen if you use your head.

:iagree: negligence

eastwest2300 11-15-2011 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1407480)
:iagree: negligence

That guy was having a bad day:shakes head:

Hey Brian, post up info on that gun show, could you?

I'd like to pick up some Pmags for my AR.

m4a1mustang 11-15-2011 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 1408619)
That guy was having a bad day:shakes head:

Hey Brian, post up info on that gun show, could you?

I'd like to pick up some Pmags for my AR.

thenationsgunshow.com

eastwest2300 11-15-2011 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1408621)
thenationsgunshow.com

Steve, you are the F'n man, bro!:tup:

brian0128 11-17-2011 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1407117)
I am probably going to be there on Friday. I don't really need anything though so I might not go.

I don't need much either, but I like to see the deals that are out there that people bring to the show and sell FTF.

eastwest2300 11-17-2011 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by brian0128 (Post 1413036)
I don't need much either, but I like to see the deals that are out there that people bring to the show and sell FTF.

Man, with Black Friday being around the corner, I actually had a change of heart...:icon17: I gotta save up! Theres really nothing I need, i could use some Pmags, but its not a priority right now.

TROOPER 11-18-2011 07:36 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvAvth2sMHc

eastwest2300 11-18-2011 07:59 PM

:ninja3: FIXED

I have a box of .357 ammo (Approximately 50 rounds), that I cant use, any body wanna trade for some 5.56?Let me know.

TROOPER 11-18-2011 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 1414487)
I have a box of .357 ammo (Approximately 50 rounds), that I cant use, any body wanna trade for some .556?

Let me know.

I'm guessing you won't be able to use .556 either....!!!

Maybe you should try using 5.56 dumba$$ :tiphat:

:happydance:

eastwest2300 11-19-2011 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TROOPER (Post 1414503)
I'm guessing you won't be able to use .556 either....!!!

Maybe you should try using 5.56 dumba$$ :tiphat:

:happydance:

hahaha... pooper trooper, you got me!:bowrofl::bowrofl:

Kirkster 11-19-2011 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TROOPER (Post 1414503)
I'm guessing you won't be able to use .556 either....!!!

Maybe you should try using 5.56 dumba$$ :tiphat:

:happydance:

Duh, that .556 is for his musket!

eastwest2300 11-19-2011 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirkster (Post 1414969)
Duh, that .556 is for his musket!

hahahah:hello:

TROOPER 11-19-2011 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirkster (Post 1414969)
Duh, that .556 is for his musket!

:icon18: :icon18: :icon18:

Can we use his musket on those Occupy Hippies? :tup:


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