Questions about Motorcycles
 

So im looking to buy the Yamaha Fz6r 2013 in Pearl White.
Now do I haggle as if im buying a car?
My three bike Choices were Suzuki Gsx-R600/ Yamaha fz6r/ Kawasaki Ninja 650R.

Any advise, ideas, anything.

Thanks.

yes, always haggle
save $

So price on the yamaha is 6500 can I get it down to like 5? Different from car purchase so I'm confused

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Why does this strike me as an absolutely terrible idea?

Elaborate :bowdown:

$5000 in cash right now sounds a lot better than $6500 over the term of the deal in person.

You can't avoid hitting things and getting hit in your car. Now you want a bike?

Not to mention you're looking to get a 650 as your first bike. It's obviously your first bike, because of the question you asked in your first post. You know what a good starter bike is? A 250. Start there.

Im too heavy for a 250 haha.
im fat man! 210 pounds is no joke for 250!

:rolleyes: Have you ever ridden one?

Before you buy a bike, go take the motorcycle safety course. Then decide on a bike.

very true..

I use to ride.. a 250 is a good starter bike, but you'll have it a few weeks before you want to be on at least a 600.

I've had 2 GSXRs and a R6.. a 600 is more than enough to get you killed or seriously hurt. So just be careful, I've lost 4 friends on speed bikes, thats why I gave it up almost 2 years ago.

In California where lane splitting is legal, you hear a motorcycle fatality every two days, causing huge traffic jam. Natural selection at play

Google and you can usually find what invoice is for that bike
And YES haggle away

if you're a klutzy person like me please don't get a motorcycle
you'll just end up getting injured or killing yourself

I took the class and its well worth the money!

me too.. i rode for like 5 years, and im just glad im still alive, it was fun while it lasted, but my itch to ride again is gone.

Minsu I know we dont know each other but I try to look out for everyone, especially my car brothers. I have to agree with Chuck on this one. If you cant resist please take a basic rider course (if it isnt required where you live), dont use it as a daily driver, and somehow be more observant than when you drive.

I think my college actually offers classes, I see them in the lot with an instructor. So maybe I can get in with them

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I havent read anything after this but I cannot stress how important this is! If you have no experience riding, a NEW 600 is not for you. I understand you are a bigger guy and a 250 will be incredibly underpowered. However, I suggest you look at some older non fuel injected models and start with something a bit slower so you can actually gain some real riding skills.

Also, the 600 will get old to you after a while, so as I said start with an older bike that you wont cry when you drop it and then upgrade to a 750-1000 once you have some riding under your belt. TAKE THE SAFETY COURSE

Yes. Get a smaller bike to start with, i.e. 250. You won't regret it. If I can go back in time I would definitely get a 250 instead of my 600. Ride the 250 for a season or two, then upgrade.

As for the haggle, are you buying it from a private sale or a dealership? If dealership then $1500 off on a $6000 bike is rare. That's 25% off. Unless they are doing the clearance, still rare. Sometimes they will give you the discount but increase the all the doc fees so at the end you will probably only get a few hundred dollars off.

If this is your first bike I would strongly recommend getting a pre-owned. There are tons of 250s (Ninja, CBR) on Craigslist. If you are lucky you can probably make a profit on the 250 when you sell it next season.

Good luck.

Hmm I could probably afford the 250cc like now it's just that the bike is going look small on me you know?

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The last thing on your mind when you're learning how to ride is how the rider to bike ratio looks.

I'm six two, and quite lean. Be honest the 250cc bike is going to look small

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So what. Small when learning is better because the bike doesn't have enough power to get out of it's own way, so you can improve your technique. Then, when you have some miles under your belt, get a bike you feel comfortable with its power.

I'm not saying this because the 250s are cool to ride, I'm saying it because your safety should be more paramount than how the rider looks on the bike. Other bikers will know what you're doing, and no one should (really) ever give you crap about a "big guy on a little biiiiike".

Unless you're buying the bike to look cool in the first place :rofl2:

If you need a motorcycle to feel power between your legs, you're doing it wrong. :tiphat:

These bikes are all different so you need to decide what you want the bike for
Commuting , spirited riding or canyon carving track

I love motorcycles and ride on the track probably 12 times per year , I also MX probably once a week also on tracks
I do not street ride as it is a bit to dangerous for me :driving:

Just to commute and save on gas. And I just didn't want to spend money on smaller bike just to outgrow in one season then go through the hassle of selling, ect for the second bike. My personality is one I have it if rather keep it. But I'm leaving towards the 250 now

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You buy the 250, ride it for a season or two, then you can get a better appreciation for what you want in your next bike. If you take care of it, you can sell it for the same amount potentially and get your money back from someone else looking to learn. You really don't lose that much in the investment.

Plus, when (not if) you drop it, it won't be nearly as bad as if you had dropped a new nice bike. You also might find out you prefer a different type of bike than a crotch rocket. For a commuter I'd prefer something where I sat more upright.

scooters are nice, and hovercraft have alot of rubber all the way around.

The yamaha fz6r has an almost up right position

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The Kawasaki Ninja 650R is actually a sweet bike and its not like it has loads of power
Having the extra pep is actually good riding in the streets as you have enough umph to get out of trouble

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Any bike can get you into trouble , my buddy's wife crashed on a 50cc scooter and had to go to the hospital

The 650r has better brakes , suspension and is more agile vs the 250

650r is a twin cyl with 60 ish HP to the back wheel

250r parallel 4 with 30 ish HP to the back wheel

If you want to get a small displacement bike I would consider the new ninja 300
Its fuel injected , better brakes , more tire options and a whopping 35hp
The body looks really cool also

http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/cro...s-2_600x0w.jpg

I sold my wifes Ninja 250 (that she decided she didnt want) after a season of riding for the same price we paid for it minus taxes. I have had very powerful bikes and im the only one that ended up riding hers. Guess what? I actually enjoyed it, I could actually push it just as hard as my 2011 ZX10r in some corners, of course with slower exit speed.

Everyone telling you to get a 250 I feel is a pretty season rider or at least knows a thing or two about bikes. If your worried about someone making fun of you screw them they are probably the one you will see in the news hanging from a power line, or reduced to a pile of goo. No one that has any sense will tell you to go buy a 600 for your first bike, especially a newer one. They are silly powerful!

When I purchased the ZX10r turned off traction and flipped to high power mode I couldnt believe they just sold me that bike not knowing my history at all. Luckily it wasnt my first bike and I knew what it was capable of. I could go on and on sorry...

Bottom line is think hard about this make the RIGHT choice. No one wants to see you get hurt. By the way im 6'0 220lbs. did I look a little funny on the 250 yes, but I rocked it like a champ Lol.

You posted that while I was typing my reply. I have not looked at bikes in over a year in fear that I will go buy one. I had no idea of that 300, that is sick.

I have rode for years...the 650 will be a great starter bike, DO NOT GET A 250!!!

and dont be afraid of a 1000cc. a 600cc will accelerate and get you into trouble faster than a 1000cc will...FACT

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OP, don't let your ego/pride affect your decision. There is absolutely nothing wrong to start off with a 250. I guarantee you will have a lot of fun on the bike. Not to mention that you will, or at least should, have better control skills than people that started with 600cc+ bikes by the time you upgrade.

not trying to ruffle feathers but its all about spending your money wisely. either you have bikes or you dont...in terms of the required basic skills...you can die or get hurt just as easy on a 50cc moped as you can a 1000cc streetbike.

this coming from someone who can quite literally ride wheelies in a circle at under 5mph. its a hobby of mine :) same as owning a cnc machine shop ;) although i spend far more time in the shop now-a-days!