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I'm sure someone already mentioned this, but don't start on a 650. I have not owned a bike, however, I am strongly considering getting one once the weather gets nice

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Old 01-23-2014, 07:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm sure someone already mentioned this, but don't start on a 650. I have not owned a bike, however, I am strongly considering getting one once the weather gets nice and I've probably been looking at the same things you have. I'm stuck between a Ninja 300 or going with some type of supermoto so you could look at those or also consider a used Ninja 250 or CBR 250r and just sell it in a couple months once you decide to move up.

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Old 01-23-2014, 07:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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…trust me my dude, I've been riding for 8-9 years now and you don't want to start out on a 600. I bought a CBR600RR for my first bike, brand new off the showroom floor. I even got the price down about 1k and sold it the following year because it wasn't enough power. I then stepped up to the CBR1000RR and I can tell a difference but as far as the handling and weight; there is none. You should really consider buying a used old bike if you're going to start out on a 600cc bike. You will be disappointed with it after the first season (especially if you have a crew you ride with).

If you're worried about getting in trouble with the bike, you will get in trouble on a 600cc bike as easily. My 600, I was able to top out at about 163mph (and yes you will try it at least once). With my 1000cc, I went 183mph before I backed out because I got scared. Both machines are amazing and will treat you right as long as you respect the bike and don't get too comfortable with it. I have totaled a bike before and I have been able to get up and get another because I understand my limitations.

People want to say that the more power you have, the more incline you are to using it. I would be the first to say that is a false statement. I will never want to experience 180 plus mph again; not even 120mph (which I do in my Z all the time). Its a different feeling between going that fast in a car vs a bike. Whatever you decide to do, make sure you do your research and take as many classes as you can in regards. Bikes aren't dangerous, it's the vehicles around us that are dangerous. Then there are those idiots that do stupid things to hurt themselves (I know a few). But good luck with whatever you decide to get.

Sidenote: please don't do like everyone else and get a suk. Get a Yam or the BMW S1000; straight beautiful
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2013 Beginner Sportbike Shootout part 2: Kawasaki Ninja 300 vs. Honda CBR500R vs. Kawasaki Ninja 650

The beggining is the ninja 300

Start at 3:18 for the ninja 650

I would listen to everyone else though, majority thinks against 650

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buying a brand new first bike is a TERRIBLE idea..that i will agree with..the cc means absolutely nothing.

buy a used bike, 600 or 1000cc, something that already has some damage but road worthy....ride it for 6 months or so, sell it and buy your brand new bike.
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buying a brand new first bike is a TERRIBLE idea..that i will agree with..the cc means absolutely nothing.

buy a used bike, 600 or 1000cc, something that already has some damage but road worthy....ride it for 6 months or so, sell it and buy your brand new bike.
I agree with what you said here however the engine size definitely means something. Even a 250 will be faster than most cars out there and is enough to get out of its own way. I have been riding dirt for 20+ years and street for 7 now and a 1000cc bike will get you in trouble quick!

I went against my own advice and started on a Yamaha R6 but as I said I have tons of experience on two wheels, I rode that for about 3-4 years and then picked up my GSXR1000. I think starting on the 1000 would be straight suicide, and even the 600 is asking for trouble if the OP has zero experience on a motorcycle. Unless you really are disciplined enough to not crack the throttle open too hard on the 600, I recommend you look at something slower, and LIGHTER. My buddy just picked up a new CBR500R and while it isnt the fastest, its really a great bike to ride and you sit pretty upright making it a much better commuter.
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The Ninja 650 is NOT the same as the Ninja 600
you guys think the 650 twin is the same as the 600 inline
its not and the same power delivery
one is like a tractor and the other is a screaming eagle
one has 100 + HP and the other 60 ish...

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I found a couple used ninjas, one the snow melts gonna drive down and sit in it and get some second opinions. Anyone in nj wanna come with me heh.

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I probably shouldn't get in Darwin's way but ... If you haven't ridden a bike before, you really need to get some experience under your belt before you jump on a big one.

Going by the few posts of yours that I have read, you will eventually end up with a big bike. I suggest finding a cheap used bike in the 250-400cc range, ride it for a few months to get some experience, sell it and get a big bike.

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Btw Ex, nice momo pic, that episode was hilarious!

And also, Im probably going to have to ride the bike home. Same thing i did with my Z, first time manual drove it 3 hours back home haha it was a hell of an experience.
So on that note. do i need to wear a leather jacket? I heard if you fall you wont tear through your skin cause leather helps with it?
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Helmet , leather gloves , leather jacket and some companies sell Kevlar jeans
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Kevlar jeans are pointless. It's been proven.
Not everyone wears full leathers all day and most people like to wear jeans
Teknic Xcelerator Kevlar/Denim Jeans are decent and have knee protection
Something is better than nothing

Me personally would rather sweat than bleed but not most people do that
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Any recommendations on companies? Or sounds that you use. Lol now that I think about it I'm sure there are forums for bike rider. I was starting to think this is the only forum that existed. But I'm sure this is the only forum that exists

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Any recommendations on companies? Or sounds that you use. Lol now that I think about it I'm sure there are forums for bike rider. I was starting to think this is the only forum that existed. But I'm sure this is the only forum that exists

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