me too.. i rode for like 5 years, and im just glad im still alive, it was fun while it lasted, but my itch to ride again is gone.

Minsu I know we dont know each other but I try to look out for everyone, especially my car brothers. I have to agree with Chuck on this one. If you cant resist please take a basic rider course (if it isnt required where you live), dont use it as a daily driver, and somehow be more observant than when you drive.

I think my college actually offers classes, I see them in the lot with an instructor. So maybe I can get in with them

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I havent read anything after this but I cannot stress how important this is! If you have no experience riding, a NEW 600 is not for you. I understand you are a bigger guy and a 250 will be incredibly underpowered. However, I suggest you look at some older non fuel injected models and start with something a bit slower so you can actually gain some real riding skills.

Also, the 600 will get old to you after a while, so as I said start with an older bike that you wont cry when you drop it and then upgrade to a 750-1000 once you have some riding under your belt. TAKE THE SAFETY COURSE

Yes. Get a smaller bike to start with, i.e. 250. You won't regret it. If I can go back in time I would definitely get a 250 instead of my 600. Ride the 250 for a season or two, then upgrade.

As for the haggle, are you buying it from a private sale or a dealership? If dealership then $1500 off on a $6000 bike is rare. That's 25% off. Unless they are doing the clearance, still rare. Sometimes they will give you the discount but increase the all the doc fees so at the end you will probably only get a few hundred dollars off.

If this is your first bike I would strongly recommend getting a pre-owned. There are tons of 250s (Ninja, CBR) on Craigslist. If you are lucky you can probably make a profit on the 250 when you sell it next season.

Good luck.

Hmm I could probably afford the 250cc like now it's just that the bike is going look small on me you know?

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The last thing on your mind when you're learning how to ride is how the rider to bike ratio looks.

I'm six two, and quite lean. Be honest the 250cc bike is going to look small

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So what. Small when learning is better because the bike doesn't have enough power to get out of it's own way, so you can improve your technique. Then, when you have some miles under your belt, get a bike you feel comfortable with its power.

I'm not saying this because the 250s are cool to ride, I'm saying it because your safety should be more paramount than how the rider looks on the bike. Other bikers will know what you're doing, and no one should (really) ever give you crap about a "big guy on a little biiiiike".

Unless you're buying the bike to look cool in the first place :rofl2:

If you need a motorcycle to feel power between your legs, you're doing it wrong. :tiphat:

These bikes are all different so you need to decide what you want the bike for
Commuting , spirited riding or canyon carving track

I love motorcycles and ride on the track probably 12 times per year , I also MX probably once a week also on tracks
I do not street ride as it is a bit to dangerous for me :driving:

Just to commute and save on gas. And I just didn't want to spend money on smaller bike just to outgrow in one season then go through the hassle of selling, ect for the second bike. My personality is one I have it if rather keep it. But I'm leaving towards the 250 now

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You buy the 250, ride it for a season or two, then you can get a better appreciation for what you want in your next bike. If you take care of it, you can sell it for the same amount potentially and get your money back from someone else looking to learn. You really don't lose that much in the investment.

Plus, when (not if) you drop it, it won't be nearly as bad as if you had dropped a new nice bike. You also might find out you prefer a different type of bike than a crotch rocket. For a commuter I'd prefer something where I sat more upright.