18yr old SRT-4 driver dead (teens will never learn)

xDIEGOx · 12-19-2008, 02:43 PM

Connetquot mothers of Jayson Giles and Stan Hartnett share similar grief, pain -- Newsday.com

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The two mothers have never met.

Their sons graduated from Connetquot High School in June, played on the lacrosse team together and died in separate crashes while driving on the same stretch of a Ronkonkoma road.

For one mother, the pain is new and the grief is raw.

"I'm totally heartbroken," Tammy Giles said through heavy sobs Tuesday, a day after her son, Jayson Giles, 18, died while driving north on Ocean Avenue and slammed into a utility pole. "It's every parent's worst nightmare."

For the other mother, months have passed and she's managed to turn tragedy into something positive.

"I go forward and I celebrate Stan's life," said Lynn Hartnett, whose 18-year-old son died in July after crashing into a tree a quarter-mile from Giles' crash. "I can't curl up. I have to go on."

Tammy Giles said she worries about the toll her son's death will have on her other children: Charles, 22; Steven, just 11 months younger than Jayson; and Jennifer, 12, who won't come out of her room.

"We're all devastated," she said. "He was the life of the house. He was always doing crazy, funny things."

Yet those are the memories that will ease the pain, Hartnett said. Offering some advice for the Giles family, Hartnett said: "Stay strong, celebrate life. If I mourn, I feel like he's gone."

It's likely too soon to reach out to Tammy Giles, Hartnett said, but she plans to later. "I wouldn't want to infringe," she said. "I don't know how she's dealing with her grief."

Soon after Stan died, Hartnett got an e-mail from the mother of a teen who also died in a car crash. "I'm not walking next to you," the message said. "I'm walking in your shoes."

They've since become friends, Hartnett said, and her son's buddies have also been supportive. "In fact," she said, "I feel guilty about what I've gained through all of this."

Giles and Hartnett also share questions about how their sons died. Suffolk police said that road is mostly straight and isn't particularly dangerous.

Speed was likely a factor in Jayson Giles' crash, police said.

His mother said a condition for him getting a turbocharged 2004 Dodge Neon was that he always wear a seat belt. Police said he was wearing one when he crashed.

Jayson Giles punched out of work at 12:55 p.m., said Kimberly Fitzgerald, a secretary at Relations Auto and Collision, where he worked as a car cleaner. The crash occurred about five minutes later. "He pulled out of here and it happened," Fitzgerald, 28, said.

Grief counselors will be available for Connetquot High School students and staff this week, principal Joseph Licato said.

The Giles family will accept visitors tomorrow, 2 to 4 p.m. and 7 to 9 p.m. at Maloney Funeral Home in Ronkonkoma, with a funeral service to be held at 10 a.m. Friday, followed by burial at Mount Ararat Cemetery.

Mother

Father and Brother

This happened a couple of weeks ago.

Slidefox · 12-19-2008, 03:00 PM

RIP

This is tragic...

jetnoirZ · 12-19-2008, 03:01 PM

Dude that really sucks poor kid didnt stand a chance in that crash. I get the thrill and all i went through a stupid phase like that too but hopefully no one was ever hurt with my poor judgement. RIP srt4 dude Keep the racing on the track

drmike · 12-19-2008, 05:18 PM

Ugh, we were not bullet-proof, we just felt that way. I know for a fact I was a lucky guy many more time than I deserved to be. I made myself look at the grieving family so that I would think about my own family in the future when I get the urge to do 10/10ths on the street.

shumby · 12-19-2008, 05:21 PM

ya a rolled a 87 sentra with 4 of my friends in it no one was hurt but man why did it take that to open my eyes?

frcefed · 12-19-2008, 05:27 PM

I don't understand why parents let their children buy fast cars like this. I know they can go fast in any vehicle but srt4's, evo,sti's etc... are just plain crazy for a kid to own.

For sure there are teen's that might be responsible and won't get hurt, but I would say the majority won't. Too much power for too little experience.

SH1T I waited till I was 30years old to buy a crotch rocket cause I thought I wasn't ready till then. I wrote my sunfire off with 3 of my buddies in it and no one got hurt. Very lucky and made me realize a few things.

Sad story especially since it might of been avoidable.

RCZ · 12-19-2008, 07:24 PM

Accident avoidance and high performance driving courses should be mandatory for all teen drivers. Not only do you learn how to control the car, but you get a feel for the mass and how quickly and easily things can go from bad to worse..

carlo_amacio · 12-19-2008, 07:30 PM

so how did he crash??

frcefed · 12-19-2008, 07:44 PM

I don't think it says exactly but for the car to be in that condition he was obviously going way over the speed limit.

18rgcelica73 · 12-19-2008, 08:12 PM

It is hard for me to be sad that he died but the family I do feel for them. Anyone that is going to get a really fast car stock should be required to take a deffensive driving class/car control/racing class so they can learn the limits of that vehicle adn see how dangerous it is.

AK370Z · 12-19-2008, 09:23 PM

RIP

Judging by the pic, he was def speeding. People do not realize how unsafe and dangerous it is to race or drive irresponsibly on public roads. As someone mentioned, teens should go though more training before getting their drivers licenses.

cow · 12-20-2008, 05:51 PM

I opened this thread expecting the opportunity for bitter sarcasm.

The story was beyond sad.

R.I.P., kid.

3SeventyZ · 12-20-2008, 07:40 PM

wow thats sad to see and read..

carlo_amacio · 12-20-2008, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 18rgcelica73

It is hard for me to be sad that he died but the family I do feel for them. Anyone that is going to get a really fast car stock should be required to take a deffensive driving class/car control/racing class so they can learn the limits of that vehicle adn see how dangerous it is.

Im sure the kid knew what he was doing,was inexperienced and paid the price. I Dont feel any pity for him,but i do feel bad for the family though

dutty370Z · 12-30-2008, 07:25 PM

My kid will be walking or taking the bus till he's 25.

12-19-2008, 03:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
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12-19-2008, 05:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
drmike Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kern Co., California Age: 53 Posts: 356 Drives: '03 Mini S+'94 Miata Rep Power: 17	Ugh, we were not bullet-proof, we just felt that way. I know for a fact I was a lucky guy many more time than I deserved to be. I made myself look at the grieving family so that I would think about my own family in the future when I get the urge to do 10/10ths on the street. __________________ txwerks.com (side biz) xcor.com (main biz)

12-19-2008, 05:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 44 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 236	ya a rolled a 87 sentra with 4 of my friends in it no one was hurt but man why did it take that to open my eyes? __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

12-19-2008, 05:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
frcefed Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Edmonton, ab,Canada Posts: 50 Drives: g37s Rep Power: 16	I don't understand why parents let their children buy fast cars like this. I know they can go fast in any vehicle but srt4's, evo,sti's etc... are just plain crazy for a kid to own. For sure there are teen's that might be responsible and won't get hurt, but I would say the majority won't. Too much power for too little experience. SH1T I waited till I was 30years old to buy a crotch rocket cause I thought I wasn't ready till then. I wrote my sunfire off with 3 of my buddies in it and no one got hurt. Very lucky and made me realize a few things. Sad story especially since it might of been avoidable. Last edited by frcefed; 12-19-2008 at 05:38 PM.

12-19-2008, 07:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	Accident avoidance and high performance driving courses should be mandatory for all teen drivers. Not only do you learn how to control the car, but you get a feel for the mass and how quickly and easily things can go from bad to worse.. Last edited by RCZ; 12-19-2008 at 07:28 PM.

12-19-2008, 03:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
jetnoirZ Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: chandler,AZ Posts: 24 Drives: 2007 350z Rep Power: 16	Dude that really sucks poor kid didnt stand a chance in that crash. I get the thrill and all i went through a stupid phase like that too but hopefully no one was ever hurt with my poor judgement. RIP srt4 dude Keep the racing on the track

12-19-2008, 07:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
carlo_amacio Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: TX Posts: 12 Drives: Honda Rep Power: 16	so how did he crash??

12-19-2008, 07:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
frcefed Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Edmonton, ab,Canada Posts: 50 Drives: g37s Rep Power: 16	I don't think it says exactly but for the car to be in that condition he was obviously going way over the speed limit.

12-19-2008, 08:12 PM	#10 (permalink)
18rgcelica73 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fresno Posts: 330 Drives: 03 ep3 vbp 6speed Rep Power: 16	It is hard for me to be sad that he died but the family I do feel for them. Anyone that is going to get a really fast car stock should be required to take a deffensive driving class/car control/racing class so they can learn the limits of that vehicle adn see how dangerous it is. __________________ I have a 350rwhp 1973 18rg turbo powered Toyota celica, a 2003 civic si which will be my down payment for a beautiful MONTEREY BLUE 370z. THE370Z.COM F'IN RULES!

12-19-2008, 09:23 PM	#11 (permalink)
AK370Z Administrator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 9,930 Drives: 09 370Z MB Sports M6 Rep Power: 10	RIP Judging by the pic, he was def speeding. People do not realize how unsafe and dangerous it is to race or drive irresponsibly on public roads. As someone mentioned, teens should go though more training before getting their drivers licenses. __________________ The370Z Signature Pictures ll Want to rock our forum decals on your car? Then click here! ll How to Embed YouTube Videos In a Post STOP! (Hammertime) ll Become a Premium Member Click HERE ll F.A.Q. Are You a Nissan Dealer? Click Here to Become A "Supporting Dealer" and Start Listing Your 370Zs In Our Inventory Section My Monterey Blue Z ll My Exhaust --> My Intake --> G3 Nissan's Official Response Regarding Oil Temp Issue: CLICK HERE Need a Set of Cheap Winter wheels /Tires? Then Visit The Banner Link Below and Place Your Order. You'll Help Keep The370Z Alive.

12-20-2008, 05:51 PM	#12 (permalink)
cow Lounge Moderator Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 3,441 Drives: Toyota Avalon Rep Power: 268	I opened this thread expecting the opportunity for bitter sarcasm. The story was beyond sad. R.I.P., kid.

12-20-2008, 07:40 PM	#13 (permalink)
3SeventyZ Track Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: MD/DE Posts: 626 Drives: 350Z, 370Z, SRT8 Rep Power: 475	wow thats sad to see and read..

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dutty370Z Base Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 163 Drives: VW Jetta Rep Power: 17	My kid will be walking or taking the bus till he's 25.

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