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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Yeah, me lifting the back end up a few degrees doing that is wierd. I just know I never roll my Windows down, and both were down when I came back out after walking away in disgust right after doing that. Weird, I agree 100%.

Originally Posted by ImportConvert

The car warped rotors from the factory before the rims were touched by the dealer, so it would seem that the first failure was on Nissan. The other times happened at my dealer. Z1 slotted rotors warped nearly immediately. Nissan factory rotors turned many times, replaced several. Yeah, it cost me $500 out of pocket for the z1 rotors. Fail. New cars should not cost out of pocket for repairs, imo.

Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I have. They paid for 1/2 the cost of my brake issues. Made me cover the z1 rotors the liar manager at the dealership wanted me to buy then disavowd all knowledge of pushing me to get.

I brought up the ps pump and Nissan tech line said "they all do it".

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

You sure you didn't have your keys in your pocket and accidentally held down the unlock button?


Agree 100%.



I agree you had a shitty run of things, but in all your blaming of Nissan I've never seen you so much as name the dealer involved, and they are far more responsible for the whole experience than Nissan.

Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I may have pressed the key. It was on me. That did strike me as very odd, your explanations is much more logical. I'm not THAT big of a bencher at all.

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Yeah, if you managed to lift the back of the car enough to make the car think it's being towed you need to go try out for a strongman competition.

Another SUV to take a look at is a newer RAV4. The older ones were complete bitchmobiles, but the new ones move. They put a lot of motor in them.

Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I wrote that off because of it being unable to accelerate up a hill with three people. However, this was an old one. I'll look at the new one. Thanks!

Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Offered $16k trade in.

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

You're getting lowballed. Badly. Even with the accident, every website I've seen says 23-27 trade in.

Originally Posted by AK370Z

Hi,
How can do you still have 3 years/36,000 miles bumper to bumper warranty and still "tired of paying for repairs"? Anything happen during 3/36 is fixed under warranty with no questions asked. I do not understand that statement. Please elaborate

The service manager swore it was my driving style that caused rotors to go bad every few thousand miles (but the pads and tires looked good...), and very heavily leaned on me to put some slotted rotors on it. That came out of pocket. When they, too, warped in 500-1500 miles, and Nissan NA became involved, he lied to my face and said he never said that, and that he would NEVER suggest non Nissan parts. So I was SOL on that expenditure.

There's a big problem with the Nissan dealer you go to and the service manager. He is pretty much doing everything wrong. NO Nissan service manager EVER suggested me to buy something other than Nissan product. As you see, you're dealing with a lying service manager. When you tell Nissan you bought aftermarket rotors, Nissan doesn't know you bought $600 DBA 2 piece floating rotors or $30 ebay rotors. That's why it's never approved by Nissan. It's your service adviser. After that incident, you should have never returned to this dealer and go to the nearest dealer.

AND if you're so concerned with paying out of pocket for repair, why didn't your buy Nissan Silver or Gold preffered warranty? This will help how? 3/36 wouldn't cover it. Why would some aftermarket warranty cover it? IT IS 100% NISSAN warranty. This is NOT an aftermarket warranty. This silver or gold treated as a Nissan oem warranty. It works just like one. Granted things like clutch, tire, brake pads/rotors, wipers, etc aren't covered as these are everyday wear and tear parts when you drive the car but it covers everything else (1900 parts to be exact). They are darn cheap! My car currently has 83,xxx miles and I still have bumper to bumper till 2016 or 120K miles. Do you know how many trips I have made to the dealer for repairs in my last 5 years or 83,000 miles? 3 times. 1st time I overtightened one lug (Front Right wheel) with a faulty Harbor Freight tq wrench (totally my fault. Can't blame Nissan). 2nd instance was when steering lock went out but it was the most pleasant experience I had considering the crappy situation (steeling lock going bad). A flatbed tow truck was sent with a very courteous driver, I sat with him to dealer, dealer gave me rental till the car is fixed. One time I ran out of fuel because the gauge told me 1/5 tank left, the trip-read said 120 miles left, but I was going up a bridge in a corner, it fuel-starved, and even once on level ground and showing 8X miles to empty, would not crank. Dealer told me SOL, have it towed. My Dad came and put some gas in the car and it fixed the issue. Shitty gauge. Never had a car run out of fuel still showing that much fuel on the gauge and over 80 miles to E. one time?? I ran out of fuel in camaro more than 3 times. Words can't describe how crappy that fuel gauge was. Fuel starvation is a issue that kind of inevitable for us. We have all kind of learned about it and figured out a way to avoid it. The best solution is to keep the tank full. I do autox(involves 1G+ lat turns and abs braking) and did 90+ runs this year. It's pain to remember but I just made sure I always have full tank before I autox. No. 1 and no. 3 National scca c stock podium guys uses 370z and I spoke to both of them. Same thing they told me, "I just make sure I have full tank when I come to autox." It'll probably be fixed next gen Z. I'm not saying it's the solution but it's something we had to live with.Dealer overnighted the steering lock and the very next day I had the car back in perfect shape. I don't know how much better experience I can ask for. 3rd instance was with crank position sensor. As usual, dropped the car off and walked out with a loaner. Everything was done within 2 business day and ALL I had to pay was $50 deductible. Nice. I didn't get a loaner except twice. Once was a damn LEAF with barely any charge on it, and once was a shitty Altima. My car has been at the dealer for nearly a week before for this brake issue. I miss the shitty Altima. It performs as advertised and was reliable.

If your car is giving you power steering whining, you need to take it to the dealer. They don't give a ****. again, I'm telling you that your dealer is horrible. You need to find another dealer. how far is your next Nissan dealer? it's makes a night and day difference from one dealer to another. Two weeks ago I had my tmps reset done for the winter rims. I have paid up to $55 in past to other crappy Nissan dealer. Guess how much I have been paying lately? nothing. Dealer does it as a courtesy. So, please look into another dealer. You're still under 3/36 and they will fix it free. You get a loaner. No you don't. They have to give you a loaner. Dealer usually never asks twice especially if you're rolling in with a 35k car. Heck I have seen altima/sentra owners getting loaner for their service. Whining to us, isn't going to solve anything. I'm not complaining, I'm warning others. You complained about brake issue. The issue is "not so great" akebono rotors. They go bad around 30K. Nice, mine went bad at 10K, 17K, 23K. I changed them to Stoptech regular replacement from tirerack ($97 a piece for front and even cheaper for rear) and you should come drive my car! Even 25K miles later on those rotors, car stops on a dime, no shake or vibrations what so ever. Cool, Z1 must use **** then. They warped the same week that they put them and Stoptech pads on.If you had stoptech pads, you should have gone with stoptech rotors. It's a fantastic combo that I kept telling myself to write a review about. I don't know what z1 uses.I did 1 hpde track day and about 90+ autox runs this year = no issues. I personally think pneumatic wrench has nothing to do with it. Why? bc my mechanic used pneumatic wrench many times after stoptech replacement, no issues. I changed tires at shop and pneumatic wrench was used, no problem. All I can say is what they told me, but we both suspect they are lying. Forum is the place where you research and find out what's wrong and go fix it. Instead of arguing, learn and change should be the right attitude.

Lets switch position for a sec: lets say you're the admin of a huge Mustang 5.0 forum and I'm importconvert_5.0, a member who owns 5.0 mustang. Every day I constantly bash this 5.0 Mustang to no point, I call out Ford as a pos, I call out mustang as the biggest pos, I wish to hurt the Ford any way I can by spreading my stories and engage in regular argument with 5.0 enthusiasts that their car sucks! What do you think will happen to me on that forum? Let me let you in a real secret: I'll be gone when I create my 3rd thread! Fair enough. Hopefully the threads remain so that people can learn from my misfortune with Nissan's junk.It's NOT a Nissan's junk. Just because you had problem with yours, you can't "label" 370Z as a junk. Every manufacturer have troublesome car every now and then. It's unfortunate that you ended up with one. You have to understand just bc you're having all these issues (and you should look into lemon laws if you're so fed up? I have, car has to bed own for 120 days during the first year, or something totally absurd.) with your Z, maybe it's your Z that wasn't so lucky out of the factory. There are hundreds and thousands of satisfied owners here. That's good for them. Some rarely ever made a trip to dealer in 40-50-60,000 miles. If you're constantly bashing a car coming to that car specific forum, you will not gain popularity among member or admin. Nor do I expect any favors, but thank-you for being polite and candid. Nothing against you, personally, of course. If 370Z is giving you so much issues, perhaps you should trade it in. I'd like to, but taking a $25,000 hit after 1 year of ownership sucks balls. I should have looked at residual, that's my fault for buying what seems like a 3rd world product. Nissan does hold it's value pretty well. My car is a 09 with 83K and I think trade in is around 16K and private party 18K. That's pretty good for a car that cost me only 33K brand new. But you're pushing my patience to the edge and you're randomly picking argument and telling 370Z enthusiasts on a 370Z forum that their 370Z sucks. Just because I am a nice guy (admin), please don't take advantage of me. Think for a second where you are and have a little respect for other 370Z enthusiasts here. I'll appreciate if you stop your constant 370Z bashing here on THE370z

Thank you.

A. Kaiser