Looking for an SUV

Red__Zed · 12-18-2013, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

I have rented plenty of Jeeps this past year and I am not overwhelmed by their performance or handling.

Nor should you be!

Red__Zed · 12-18-2013, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Original powertrain? Wow.

Yes. Scheduled maint and a couple replacements of dampers were pretty much all she needed.

Tazicon · 12-18-2013, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

How about a mid-2000s Lexus LX470? I'd take a used Toyota over a used Jeep any day, and you just can't kill a Land Cruiser.

Jeep is the only way to go!!!!!!!!!!

Red__Zed · 12-18-2013, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by XiP

nobody has mentioned jeep wrangler, are those not very popular for some reason?

JKU is a wrangler

ImportConvert · 12-18-2013, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LunaZ

I'm not hurt at all.
My shitty little car has yet to break down.

I'm of no help to you. I just smelled trollage and thought I'd play along.
You already know what you want, what you like and what you don't like. Why are you asking us?

Well lucky you. I'm tired of paying for repairs and dealing with messed up ****, and I'm still under 3/36. Screw that. My 1980's mustang had more robust brake components (Even if it didn't stop as well, I only needed ONE set of rotors, not 3.), and the transmission in my 2001 Trans Am was a much better component, and NONE of my other cars had power steering pumps that whined like a mofo "from the factory, as normal, per the manufacturer". So, I'm glad your car isn't a shitbox, but mine is, and so is Nissan's customer service, so why in the world would I keep this thing past 3/36? It's junk.

Clapped out and ready to be thrown away as far as I'm concerned. It's reached the stage in its life where it will always have **** going wrong with it and cost you money every time you turn around. You know, the stage at which domestics normally reach in 5-7 years where you finally break down and buy a new one because the repairs > a note. Yeah, it's getting there before it's even out from under 3/36. Really, I cannot express enough disdain for the Nissan brand or the 370Z product, in general. I just want OUT of it before I get too far out from under warranty (31K miles right now) and have to pay hand over fist just to keep it on the road. THe power steering moans and groans like a whore and that's embarrassing enough everyone staring at it when I pull into a parking-lot, or it sounding like a damn supercharger pulling up to a traffic light. I can only imagine what those buggers would charge me to replace it when it finally goes, probably at 37K miles, lol!

I've gotten some good info from this thread, and am considering the 4-runner special edition, now, as well. As well as some validation of my choice of the GJC from everyone who has owned or experienced one.

dtul · 12-18-2013, 08:36 PM

The newer Grand Cherokees are great cars, but I would definitely not write-off Japanese cars just because of bad experience with arguably the least reliable brands, outside of Suzuki of course. Toyotas/Lexus are especially good. You good get a really nice used Sequoia or 4Runner for the price you mentioned and it would suit your needs very nicely.

Also congrats on the land, I'm jealous. The Ozarks are gorgeous, I go to Greers Ferry Lake in north central Arkansas and I hope to move there in a few years once I graduate college. I'm sure you will enjoy the heck out of it. How far from Shreveport is your land? I just to live in Atlanta, TX and it was like 6 hours from there to Greers Ferry, just curious if it is around the same distance.

Chuck33079 · 12-18-2013, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Well lucky you. I'm tired of paying for repairs and dealing with messed up ****, and I'm still under 3/36. Screw that. My 1980's mustang had more robust brake components (Even if it didn't stop as well, I only needed ONE set of rotors, not 3.), and the transmission in my 2001 Trans Am was a much better component, and NONE of my other cars had power steering pumps that whined like a mofo "from the factory, as normal, per the manufacturer". So, I'm glad your car isn't a shitbox, but mine is, and so is Nissan's customer service, so why in the world would I keep this thing past 3/36? It's junk.

Clapped out and ready to be thrown away as far as I'm concerned. It's reached the stage in its life where it will always have **** going wrong with it and cost you money every time you turn around. You know, the stage at which domestics normally reach in 5-7 years where you finally break down and buy a new one because the repairs > a note. Yeah, it's getting there before it's even out from under 3/36. Really, I cannot express enough disdain for the Nissan brand or the 370Z product, in general. I just want OUT of it before I get too far out from under warranty (31K miles right now) and have to pay hand over fist just to keep it on the road. THe power steering moans and groans like a whore and that's embarrassing enough everyone staring at it when I pull into a parking-lot, or it sounding like a damn supercharger pulling up to a traffic light. I can only imagine what those buggers would charge me to replace it when it finally goes, probably at 37K miles, lol!

I've gotten some good info from this thread, and am considering the 4-runner special edition, now, as well. As well as some validation of my choice of the GJC from everyone who has owned or experienced one.

Finally, we get to the whole point of the thread. Another anti-Nissan rant. We get it. You got a lemon and are pissed about it. If I were so fed up with a product, I would not be going on that respective forum soliciting input on the replacement. i would go to the forum of the vehicle I was considering purchasing. Sorry for your experience, maybe you could just move on? Why waste your time on a forum for a car you hate from a company you despise?

Did you ever take it to a different dealer, or are you still absolutely convinced they're flawless and it's the car, which no one else has had the same problems you have, that is the real issue?

Isamu · 12-18-2013, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Finally, we get to the whole point of the thread. Another anti-Nissan rant. We get it. You got a lemon and are pissed about it. If I were so fed up with a product, I would not be going on that respective forum soliciting input on the replacement. i would go to the forum of the vehicle I was considering purchasing. Sorry for your experience, maybe you could just move on? Why waste your time on a forum for a car you hate from a company you despise?

Did you ever take it to a different dealer, or are you still absolutely convinced they're flawless and it's the car, which no one else has had the same problems you have, that is the real issue?

truth be told, he is a lonely man, and just needs attention from other males to make himself feel ok... ORRRRRRR Karma just bit him in the butt for being such a douche

ImportConvert · 12-18-2013, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Finally, we get to the whole point of the thread. Another anti-Nissan rant. We get it. You got a lemon and are pissed about it. If I were so fed up with a product, I would not be going on that respective forum soliciting input on the replacement. i would go to the forum of the vehicle I was considering purchasing. Sorry for your experience, maybe you could just move on? Why waste your time on a forum for a car you hate from a company you despise?

Did you ever take it to a different dealer, or are you still absolutely convinced they're flawless and it's the car, which no one else has had the same problems you have, that is the real issue?

Well, the problem is Nissan. They finally admitted the brake issue. They were using a pneumatic wrench to tighten the lug nuts. This car can't withstand such. It warped the rotors. They found this out when their gtr tech attended a conference in Texas. Used a hand powered tool, and all is better. Shitty design.

Powersteering pump whining like a belt driven sc is normal for economy cars, they say. That includes altimas with more curvy sheetmetal.

I post here because I wish someone honest about the platform had clued me in before I bought it, although 5_0 tried, he wasn't near as openly vocal about it as I'm being. Just trying to look out for anyone considering one of these poser sports cars.

Any way I can hurt nissan, I will. I hope my posts and the incidents o have recounted cost sales. **** em.

ImportConvert · 12-18-2013, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Finally, we get to the whole point of the thread. Another anti-Nissan rant. We get it. You got a lemon and are pissed about it. If I were so fed up with a product, I would not be going on that respective forum soliciting input on the replacement. i would go to the forum of the vehicle I was considering purchasing. Sorry for your experience, maybe you could just move on? Why waste your time on a forum for a car you hate from a company you despise?

Did you ever take it to a different dealer, or are you still absolutely convinced they're flawless and it's the car, which no one else has had the same problems you have, that is the real issue?

Well, the problem is Nissan. They finally admitted the brake issue. They were using a pneumatic wrench to tighten the lug nuts. This car can't withstand such. It warped the rotors. They found this out when their gtr tech attended a conference in Texas. Used a hand powered tool, and all is better. Shitty design.

Powersteering pump whining like a belt driven sc is normal for economy cars, they say. That includes altimas with more curvy sheetmetal.

I post here because I wish someone honest about the platform had clued me in before I bought it, although 5_0 tried, he wasn't near as openly vocal about it as I'm being. Just trying to look out for anyone considering one of these poser sports cars.

Any way I can hurt nissan, I will. I hope my posts and the incidents o have recounted cost sales. **** em.

ImportConvert · 12-18-2013, 10:54 PM

Also, discovered today, the Z is easy to.break into. Just lift the.back end up a touch. The Windows shoot down, and no alarm. It thinks its.being towed. Discovered this today while trying to re hang the.shitty Berk cbe. I pushed up from under the car, and that was the result. Pretty surprised its that easy.

Chuck33079 · 12-18-2013, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Well, the problem is Nissan. They finally admitted the brake issue. They were using a pneumatic wrench to tighten the lug nuts. This car can't withstand such. It warped the rotors. They found this out when their gtr tech attended a conference in Texas. Used a hand powered tool, and all is better. Shitty design.

Powersteering pump whining like a belt driven sc is normal for economy cars, they say. That includes altimas with more curvy sheetmetal.

I post here because I wish someone honest about the platform had clued me in before I bought it, although 5_0 tried, he wasn't near as openly vocal about it as I'm being. Just trying to look out for anyone considering one of these poser sports cars.

Any way I can hurt nissan, I will. I hope my posts and the incidents o have recounted cost sales. **** em.

So Nissan was the one using an impact to put on lugs, or the dealer? I've driven several other Z's besides my own, and the power steering doesn't make any abnormal noises.

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Also, discovered today, the Z is easy to.break into. Just lift the.back end up a touch. The Windows shoot down, and no alarm. It thinks its.being towed. Discovered this today while trying to re hang the.shitty Berk cbe. I pushed up from under the car, and that was the result. Pretty surprised its that easy.

Really? Every time I've lifted the back up on jackstands or ramps, that has never happened. Not once.

We get it already. You got a lemon and you feel raw about it. Coming onto a Z enthusiast forum bitching about it just seems like a complete waste of time.

XiP · 12-18-2013, 11:04 PM

you should complain to nissan directly in my opinion... complaining here probably won't get anything resolved

ImportConvert · 12-18-2013, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

So Nissan was the one using an impact to put on lugs, or the dealer? I've driven several other Z's besides my own, and the power steering doesn't make any abnormal noises.

Really? Every time I've lifted the back up on jackstands or ramps, that has never happened. Not once.

We get it already. You got a lemon and you feel raw about it. Coming onto a Z enthusiast forum bitching about it just seems like a complete waste of time.

Yeah, me lifting the back end up a few degrees doing that is wierd. I just know I never roll my Windows down, and both were down when I came back out after walking away in disgust right after doing that. Weird, I agree 100%.

I got my suv advice, got what I came back for. Taking a few parting shots.

The car warped rotors from the factory before the rims were touched by the dealer, so it would seem that the first failure was on Nissan. The other times happened at my dealer. Z1 slotted rotors warped nearly immediately. Nissan factory rotors turned many times, replaced several. Yeah, it cost me $500 out of pocket for the z1 rotors. Fail. New cars should not cost out of pocket for repairs, imo.

Yeah I'm pissed, no I don't care if I piss anyone here off. Just getting my experience out for other potential buyers. I cruised this forum a while before I bought, myself.

ImportConvert · 12-18-2013, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by XiP

you should complain to nissan directly in my opinion... complaining here probably won't get anything resolved

I have. They paid for 1/2 the cost of my brake issues. Made me cover the z1 rotors the liar manager at the dealership wanted me to buy then disavowd all knowledge of pushing me to get.

I brought up the ps pump and Nissan tech line said "they all do it".

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dtul Base Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Dallas Posts: 191 Drives: n/a Rep Power: 12	The newer Grand Cherokees are great cars, but I would definitely not write-off Japanese cars just because of bad experience with arguably the least reliable brands, outside of Suzuki of course. Toyotas/Lexus are especially good. You good get a really nice used Sequoia or 4Runner for the price you mentioned and it would suit your needs very nicely. Also congrats on the land, I'm jealous. The Ozarks are gorgeous, I go to Greers Ferry Lake in north central Arkansas and I hope to move there in a few years once I graduate college. I'm sure you will enjoy the heck out of it. How far from Shreveport is your land? I just to live in Atlanta, TX and it was like 6 hours from there to Greers Ferry, just curious if it is around the same distance.

12-18-2013, 10:54 PM	#71 (permalink)
ImportConvert A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SWMO Posts: 4,454 Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve Rep Power: 7627	Also, discovered today, the Z is easy to.break into. Just lift the.back end up a touch. The Windows shoot down, and no alarm. It thinks its.being towed. Discovered this today while trying to re hang the.shitty Berk cbe. I pushed up from under the car, and that was the result. Pretty surprised its that easy.