top 10 Deadliest Cars on the Road

RonRizz

The 10 Deadliest Vehicles on the Road
The list is spattered with Nissan products. Guess what #1 is.......

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DEpointfive0

Dumbest/best use of "statistics" to skew numbers...

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H2O_Doc

I didn't get from the article, how are things skewed?

DEpointfive0

I didn't see where you got that, BUT I don't think they sold 100k of them

Skew 1:
It's a total of cars registered between 2006 and 2009... That are over 100k...

Skew 2: It says the model year for the 370Z was 2005-2008... I see reported sales for those years at around 80k.

Statistics is the study of making and analyzing how numbers lie. I have an inverted statistic:
The sold 700-800 Porsche Carrera GTs in the US (Let's call it 1000)
With the death of our beloved Roger and that other guy in the car, the death rate is 2000 per million!!!


So honestly they need to specify deaths per model year, OR registration or miles driven per 100000 cars sold or something, but all that being said, the numbers can still lie

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H2O_Doc

I don't think what you cite as skewing the results actually do that. It looks like the authors were trying to allow for reasonable bases for comparison. They had a minimum required population size and used a standard time period for that population. What they seem do have done actually makes the results easier to use.

I have no idea how you calculated 2000 million. What I will suggest is the reason they don't include cars with such low sales figures is, in part, because the likelihood of drawing conclusions from rare events (e.g. fatal accidents) is impossible with relatively small (1000 cars) sample sizes.

If you are expressing frustration about the way statistics are used against people when you remarked about "how numbers lie" I am with you. People in politics, in the media, people selling stuff, or people in legal circles often misuse or abuse statistics to knowingly make false (or unsupported claims), or to bait the untrained into drawing those conclusions on their own. Strictly speaking, however, I do strongly disagree with the notion that statistics themselves (done properly) lie - people, however, lie with statistics. Not exactly the same thing.

Back on topic, I think there is some usefulness to the study as long as we don't draw inappropriate conclusions from the data.

DEpointfive0

H20, I like you, I'm buying you a beer

I meant 2000 per million, I reworded that sentence and the "per" didn't copy.

I still think the article is a bit skewed because how did they equate 100k 350Zs when there weren't that many sold from 2005-2008? And did they mean the 2005-2008, or registered from 2006-2009? Also, if it's cars registered, did they get a running total? Or did it just have to hit 100,000 on the road total ONCE?


And yes, statistics can be a fantastic tool, but it's usually used to make facts that don't answer the correct question (Last week's example pissed me off big time; it said over 70% of heart attack victims drink soda... I wanted to strangle someone... It's such a vague "fact"... It went on to say that they drink soda AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH... Well in the real world, i bet that statistically 70% of the population has one soda a month, so that by itself voids out their BULLSHÍT "statistic")

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JNews86

What a worthless article lol

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Any car Jnews is driving is the most dangerous car on the road.

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critical

clicking on the link in the article it shows the Nissan Armada with a big 0 in overall deaths.

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mults

The 10 deadliest cars are the ones being driven by drunken idiots .

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H2O_Doc

You know, these data might be useful. The 350Z didn't have ESC or side curtain airbags one some of the trim levels. Perhaps that accounts for the relatively high fatality rate?

kenchan

that and the maturity of the drivers.

G35C shares the same chassis, wasnt even on the list.

H2O_Doc

I was thinking the same thing. The affordability of the 350Z might make it appealing to a more inexperienced driver; one that might also be somewhat aggressive.

XiP

there's a lot of other factors you should consider other than "crash deaths and the vehicles in which drivers met their end"... vehicle safety, driver demographics, locations, weather, etc...

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