"the knockout game"

FL 4Motion · 11-23-2013, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

You can't hammer a nail into a piece of timber with one hit from 50 meters away.

In the good old days people disemboweled and beheaded each other with bronze swords. Then came iron and so on. Those were indeed simpler times...

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I would say better times, yes more violent overall compared to today even though we have used technology to make killing much easier and efficient.

Here's why I feel that way. Even a 3 yo can kill someone with a gun, basically anyone can kill/hurt someone with a gun, it's too easy.

It takes physical brawn to wield a sword, war hammer, ax etc. And you have to do it up close and personal so effort and commitment is required to kill.

It takes little to no effort with a gun and it's very easy to pull a trigger. but like I said, that ship has sailed.

edit: I suppose I should clarify better times regarding man's ability/technology for making war etc, not everything since obviously we live pretty well and easily compared to our ancestors/forefathers.

Jordo! · 11-23-2013, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

I would say better times, yes more violent overall compared to today even though we have used technology to make killing much easier and efficient.

Here's why I feel that way. Even a 3 yo can kill someone with a gun, basically anyone can kill/hurt someone with a gun, it's too easy.

It takes physical brawn to wield a sword, war hammer, ax etc. And you have to do it up close and personal so effort and commitment is required to kill.

It takes little to no effort with a gun and it's very easy to pull a trigger. but like I said, that ship has sailed.

No, no -- I agree with you completely.

I'm also not a big fan of "wild west" based theories of achieving peace.

I only meant to suggest that guns aren't like other tools or appliances -- not trying to give you a hard time or anything -- and I think we are very much on the same page here -- I just think its important to explicitly not think of guns as approximately equivalent to hammers, knives, cars, toasters, etc.

I'd also like to think the relevant ship hasn't sailed, although, to be sure, there's nothing waiting at the dock at the moment.

EDIT: Oh, and yeah, sorry for the garbled initial reply -- I was careless in trying to partition my various replies... I ended up with a less wonky re-post just below the first one.

FL 4Motion · 11-23-2013, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

No, no -- I agree with you completely.

I'm also not a big fan of "wild west" based theories of achieving peace.

I only meant to suggest that guns aren't like other tools or appliances -- not trying to give you a hard time or anything -- and I think we are very much on the same page here -- I just think its important to explicitly not think of guns as approximately equivalent to hammers, knives, cars, toasters, etc.

I'd also like to think the relevant ship hasn't sailed, although, to be sure, there's nothing waiting at the dock at the moment.

I didn't mean to imply that guns as a tool should be viewed not seriously (I'm tired and not getting the right words out)

Jordo! · 11-23-2013, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

I didn't mean to imply that guns as a tool should be viewed not seriously (I'm tired and not getting the right words out)

Same here

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