"the knockout game"

FL 4Motion

fvcking database errors, I typed a response a lost it.

short ver. in a panicked situation, she not being trained extensively like leo/military in the heat of the moment may have fired somewhat indiscriminantly into the crowd of youths which were threatening her. While she may have not hit the actual ones who were, she prevented them from further attacking and if you associate with criminals esp while they engage in criminal behavior, expect to get what you get. No sympathy from me in that regard. Yes, they're kids and kids sometimes do dumb sh!t but there are always consequences, and sometime you are lucky enough to say man when I was young I did xyz and it was dumb, other times you're dead.

IF more parents got involved in their kids lives and didn't view children as a right instead of a privilidge and responsibility, I think it would go a long way.

Jordo!

I thought maybe moderators were locking this thread or something

Untrained and panicked and armed... yeah. There's a lot of that going around, methinks.



By that rationale, anyone nearby who saw the whole thing -- and stayed out of it -- would be equally deserving of death.

So we're back to trying to look on the "bright side" of it...



In other news: Apparently it's a hoax?!?

Report of 60 Year Old Woman Shooting 2


Well, if it is a hoax, that's a happy ending, I guess.


And then there's this...

Knockout Game? Michigan Tasing — And Shooting — Take It To A New Level « CBS Detroit


I'm going to invest in a rubber vest and a helmet.

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FL 4Motion

sadly yes, personally do not like firearms, I view them as a necessary evil and a tool, like hammer etc.

wish we could go back to the good ol days of asswhoopings and settling things like men with your fists/fee/knees/elbows etc and not resorting to guns but that ship has sailed.

exsanity

No, only those that knew the intent of the attacker and did nothing are equally responsible for the crime. I don't profess to believe I know what people deserve.

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Jordo!

You can't hammer a nail into a piece of timber with one hit from 50 meters away.

In the good old days people disemboweled and beheaded each other with bronze swords. Then came iron and so on. Those were indeed simpler times...

It's also impossible to know who knew the attacker's intent -- either in advance or in real time.

I mean, assuming that all actually happened (allegedly, it has not yet been verified...) there will be an investigation of some sort, but if two kids who knew nothing and were in the wrong place at the wrong time got gunned down, it's kind of a done deal.

Anyway, hopefully it was a hoax... I'm sure we'll know by tomorrow.




Did you read the story of the kid with the taser getting shot in the butt?

Stupid kid with taser lives and gets arrested; victim of taser manages to wound, but not murder stupid kid.

Assuming this one's not a hoax, it's an urban crime story we can all enjoy

EDIT: Wow -- a LOT of anger and racism from random posters on that Michigan news link

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FL 4Motion

I would say better times, yes more violent overall compared to today even though we have used technology to make killing much easier and efficient.

Here's why I feel that way. Even a 3 yo can kill someone with a gun, basically anyone can kill/hurt someone with a gun, it's too easy.

It takes physical brawn to wield a sword, war hammer, ax etc. And you have to do it up close and personal so effort and commitment is required to kill.

It takes little to no effort with a gun and it's very easy to pull a trigger. but like I said, that ship has sailed.


edit: I suppose I should clarify better times regarding man's ability/technology for making war etc, not everything since obviously we live pretty well and easily compared to our ancestors/forefathers.

Jordo!

No, no -- I agree with you completely.

I'm also not a big fan of "wild west" based theories of achieving peace.

I only meant to suggest that guns aren't like other tools or appliances -- not trying to give you a hard time or anything -- and I think we are very much on the same page here -- I just think its important to explicitly not think of guns as approximately equivalent to hammers, knives, cars, toasters, etc.

I'd also like to think the relevant ship hasn't sailed, although, to be sure, there's nothing waiting at the dock at the moment.

EDIT: Oh, and yeah, sorry for the garbled initial reply -- I was careless in trying to partition my various replies... I ended up with a less wonky re-post just below the first one.

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FL 4Motion

I didn't mean to imply that guns as a tool should be viewed not seriously (I'm tired and not getting the right words out)