Originally Posted by H2O_Doc If every youthful indiscretion resulted in a fatality then we'd have been a short lived species. We can feel for everyone involved, hope for the best,
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So, maybe you are right, but you might leave a little room for other possibilities - maybe including possibilities that don't make it so easy to be so cold to human tragedy Also, understanding the reality of what happened is what allows us to look for solution. A false characterization of what happened and WHY can only lead to false solutions - not helpful to anyone, including future victims of people texting while driving. Do you want only to throw stones, or do you want to help prevent these sorts of accidents? Last edited by H2O_Doc; 11-17-2013 at 10:05 PM. |
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Glad no fatalities, hope lesson is learned.
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She asked if her face was ok.. That tells me she's more interested in herself and her looks than causing harm to other drivers on the road. Quote:
If the scenario were like this instead.. She was driving the SUV and plowed into a little Kia and killed a bunch of kids.. Would you still chalk it up youthful indiscretion then?
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11-17-2013, 11:35 PM | #20 (permalink) |
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It is easy to judge when you aren't involved. Yes, the driver was texting and driving. Did the driver judge the risk and how they would impact herself and others, no. The fact is that this thought process doesn't become first nature until a human progresses so far in life (experience, not age). Does she deserved to be punished, yes she needs to be punished and learn or it will occur again.
For those who haven't had to deal with death or near death, it changes everything. Your perspective on life will change/ your mind will open. The world doesn't give a **** about you but did you do your part it making it better? Hopefully, all the victims from the crash will take away a positive, whether it is not to take life for granted or simply don't text and drive. Everything matters, everyone matters. Make a difference. |
11-18-2013, 12:25 AM | #22 (permalink) |
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11-18-2013, 12:40 AM | #23 (permalink) |
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I talk on my phone while driving. But I never text while driving......unless I'm at a full stop Hopefully she learned her lesson. Glad there were no fatalities?
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Why are you people making excuses for the girl? She screwed up. Bad. When was the last time Mother Nature gave a damn about "youthful indiscretion"? The gal is lucky that dear old Mom didn't kill her.
If you engage in risky behavior, you sometimes get hurt. Sometimes you die. Whether that's fair or not doesn't really matter - that's just the way it is.
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11-18-2013, 07:27 AM | #27 (permalink) | |
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The distinction here is that humans are fallible; teens especially so. Our ability to fully understand risk, to mange risk, and understand our own capabilities changes with experience and age. Saying that it is unfortunate that the guilty party didn't die just seems harsh. At a minimum, how can one be held responsible and make restitution if absent from the planet. It gets to a problem we have in society and that is that we use self righteous indignation as a substitute for a fuller understanding of the complexities of an issue. One can say that they recognize the sort of behavior in question as all too common; not wish dear upon the actor; hold them fully accountable; and in no way harbor any willingness to EXCUSE the behavior or vitiate the perpetrator of responsibility. The notion that my words or the words of others here are meant to, or can rightly be taken as something that EXCUSES (in the proper meaning of the word) the girl is a gross misreading of the literal meaning of the written words and the intent of the author(s). The question of what should happen to the guilty party really hasn't been the subject of discussion except to say wishing a young driver death for what lots (wayyyy too many) people) do is questionable; the culpability of the guilty party has NEVER been questioned (certainly not by me). |
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11-18-2013, 07:45 AM | #28 (permalink) |
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Perhaps we are both reading too much into each others comments. I am not trying to say that she should have died nor do I agree with the member that stated so.
Mother Nature doesn't care if you call it a reason or an excuse. Mother Nature doesn't care. Period. If you screw up bad enough, no matter what your intentions, you get hurt/killed. In the end, the girl knowingly endangered herself and others. The reason/excuse is moot. We reap what we sow.
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While she did make a mistake that could have been, and almost was fatal, wishing she died from it is incredibly disgusting. I don't know you and I don't know if you have kids, but what if that was your son or daughter making the mistake? Would you wish the same for them? I really don't think I can say it any better than H2O Doc did, so I won't try to, but that was an absolutely detestable thing to say.
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