Ladies and Moms (ok Dads too) - Manual or Automatic for my baby girl and why!

JARblue · 08-26-2013, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

People that get a free car don't get to hold anything against anybody.

Try telling that to a teenage girl

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

People don't. Women do though

ElVee · 08-26-2013, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

People that get a free car don't get to hold anything against anybody.

Children do.

XiP · 08-26-2013, 09:15 AM

what about getting her an automatic car that has paddle shifters?

DEpointfive0 · 08-26-2013, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by XiP

what about getting her an automatic car that has paddle shifters?

No purpose

XiP · 08-26-2013, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

No purpose

she can learn manual using paddle shifters and switch to auto mode too

she just needs to get the *it's time to change gears* *do something* part down

JARblue · 08-26-2013, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by XiP

she can learn manual using paddle shifters and switch to auto mode too

she just needs to get the *it's time to change gears* *do something* part down

I agree with DE here. No point. It's the mechanical connection to the car with a clutch that makes driving MT a more valuable experience. You have to pay attention to what your car is doing at that exact moment, and then you have to make the adjustments yourself. Also, rev matching, while not necessary in the majority of cars these days, is a valuable skill nonetheless - it demonstrates knowledge and understanding of the vehicle operation as well as driving ability.

DEpointfive0 · 08-26-2013, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by XiP

she can learn manual using paddle shifters and switch to auto mode too

she just needs to get the *it's time to change gears* *do something* part down

C'mon man, that was THE WEAKEST explanation as to why auto with paddles is like manual.

It's the CHANGING and the clutch that has the learning curve

XiP · 08-26-2013, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

I agree with DE here. No point. It's the mechanical connection to the car with a clutch that makes driving MT a more valuable experience. You have to pay attention to what your car is doing at that exact moment, and then you have to make the adjustments yourself. Also, rev matching, while not necessary in the majority of cars these days, is a valuable skill nonetheless - it demonstrates knowledge and understanding of the vehicle operation as well as driving ability.

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

C'mon man, that was THE WEAKEST explanation as to why auto with paddles is like manual.

It's the CHANGING and the clutch that has the learning curve

well i thought it would be easier/safer for her to learn

i've never drove a manual car before but i tried learning on a bike and ended up riding myself into a wall and dropping the bike and stalling a lot because i forget the clutch

Chuck33079 · 08-26-2013, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by XiP

she can learn manual using paddle shifters and switch to auto mode too

she just needs to get the *it's time to change gears* *do something* part down

That's pretty pointless. Tell her to drive in manual mode only? That's probably not going to happen unless he rides along with her 24/7. Most of learning to drive manual is learning how to use the clutch.

Chuck33079 · 08-26-2013, 09:17 AM

My dad paid half of my first car. It was a 2 year old base Civic with no options for $9k. He informed me that if it wasn't good enough, I was more than free to take my $4500 and get something better.

Of course, he bought all of my sister's cars until she turned 25, but that's the difference between girls and boys.

nogoodname · 08-26-2013, 09:37 AM

Why not just let her try manual on a beater or something. Like a friend's car if there aren't any manuals at home.

DEpointfive0 · 08-26-2013, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname

Why not just let her try manual on a beater or something. Like a friend's car if there aren't any manuals at home.

Only manual at home is his Nismo and soon his 240

nogoodname · 08-26-2013, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Only manual at home is his Nismo and soon his 240

So she might as well try the Nismo Z then if she's possibly going to get a 6MT Z. Go for a drive for like ateast an hour. If she doesn't like it now or isn't interested now. She will never be.

DEpointfive0 · 08-26-2013, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname

So she might as well try the Nismo Z then if she's possibly going to get a 6MT Z. Go for a drive for like ateast an hour. If she doesn't like it now or isn't interested now. She will never be.

Mmmmm... The Z is harder than most to drive. I don't LIKE manuals, but I understand the appeal, and maybe if I lived in a different place I'd buy one, so I don't 100% agree with what you're saying.

Also, I doubt he'd let anyone drive either, both are overly nice.

Chuck33079 · 08-26-2013, 09:38 AM

Because driving a manual once or twice and then buying an auto doesn't really help much. She needs to learn manual well. Doing it a couple of times doesn't teach you much.

08-26-2013, 09:15 AM	#3 (permalink)
XiP A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: no clipping Posts: 11,096 Drives: ↑ ↓ Rep Power: 534	what about getting her an automatic car that has paddle shifters? __________________ I <3 Frost!!!

08-26-2013, 09:17 AM	#10 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	My dad paid half of my first car. It was a 2 year old base Civic with no options for $9k. He informed me that if it wasn't good enough, I was more than free to take my $4500 and get something better. Of course, he bought all of my sister's cars until she turned 25, but that's the difference between girls and boys. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

08-26-2013, 09:38 AM	#15 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Because driving a manual once or twice and then buying an auto doesn't really help much. She needs to learn manual well. Doing it a couple of times doesn't teach you much. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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08-26-2013, 09:37 AM	#11 (permalink)
nogoodname Lifetime Premium Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 22,357 Drives: E46 M3 Rep Power: 1765	Why not just let her try manual on a beater or something. Like a friend's car if there aren't any manuals at home.