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jlw2546 · 08-24-2013, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cell

Cops don't need probable cause to stop someone bbut they do need a reason to. If the person looks like a suspect, the officer can detain that person to investigate. Or if he has reasonable suspicion that you are doing something out of the ordinary then they can stop you. Most cops wouldn't stop someone for no reason. I say most because some cops don't even know what they are doing.

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I see you are from Chicago. The police in Chicago have a lot more to deal with than traffic violations. The have the highest homicide rate in the country right now.

Cell · 08-25-2013, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581

Again sorry been busy with the fam, Ill make it a point to geton once a day. And any other LEOs feel free to jump in to answer any questions.

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Originally Posted by jlw2546

I see you are from Chicago. The police in Chicago have a lot more to deal with than traffic violations. The have the highest homicide rate in the country right now.

Yes, I am from Chicago and am also a cop. If anyone has questions I can also try to answer at the best of my abilities.

dP3NGU1N · 08-27-2013, 12:24 AM

A question for all the LEOs. Do you really have ticket quotas you have to fill? Can you elaborate on the structure? Is it monthly? weekly? How many do you need (I suppose this varies by city). Is it a dollar amount or strictly a numbers game?

I'm seriously annoyed that it seems like traffic citations, by and large, are basically legalized extortion schemes for cities to make money. Now I recognize that this is not the fault of the officers but it doesn't make it any less of an issue.

Z370Z011 · 08-27-2013, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dP3NGU1N

A question for all the LEOs. Do you really have ticket quotas you have to fill? Can you elaborate on the structure? Is it monthly? weekly? How many do you need (I suppose this varies by city). Is it a dollar amount or strictly a numbers game?

I'm seriously annoyed that it seems like traffic citations, by and large, are basically legalized extortion schemes for cities to make money. Now I recognize that this is not the fault of the officers but it doesn't make it any less of an issue.

id like to know this too

DEpointfive0 · 08-27-2013, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Z370Z011

id like to know this too

They do, but it's more like suggestion of tickets to fill

dP3NGU1N · 08-27-2013, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

They do, but it's more like suggestion of tickets to fill

Should the word suggestion be in quotes? I can only assume that if they are constantly not meeting that suggestion then it's possible they would get written up.

Wonka2581 · 08-28-2013, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dP3NGU1N

A question for all the LEOs. Do you really have ticket quotas you have to fill? Can you elaborate on the structure? Is it monthly? weekly? How many do you need (I suppose this varies by city). Is it a dollar amount or strictly a numbers game?

I'm seriously annoyed that it seems like traffic citations, by and large, are basically legalized extortion schemes for cities to make money. Now I recognize that this is not the fault of the officers but it doesn't make it any less of an issue.

A U.S. suprime court set a federal law on ticket quotas. It is up to the officer to cite you or not.

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Wonka! I love this thread. Repped.

Cell! Thanks for chiming in. Repped as well.

My question has nothing to do with being stopped or the legality around stops. More about safety and being aware of your surroundings. Any best practices that you can share from your point of view aside from keeping distance, monitoring speed, etc. I just wonder what you look for as an officer. What do you look out for or pay attention to? How far ahead and behind do you look?

Good question,
I am always on my toes. LEOS dont have the safest job in the world. When Im working im always scanning for violations. There is not set distance. But when I'm around people I try to keep a reactionary gap of 4-6 feet when Im dealing with people.

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Originally Posted by Mr&Mrs

1) Are you supposed to chase someone driving 30+ over the speed limit? Or is there any number you are to not persue?

2) What is your magic number and your general "force's" number on pulling a speeding driver as long as there is nothing wreckless envolved? 1-3 over 5-7 over 10-13 over etc.

Thanks

Diffrent Law Enforcement agencies have diffrent policys, My agencie had a very liberal policy, check with your local agency and ask what the persuit policy is also it depends on the charges, I.E. if the person just walked into a store and shot lets say 5 people then there is a very good chance he will do it again. Police will persue no matter what speeds are. When im running radar I normally dont even look at a car unless they are doing 15MPH over the limit, I might stop you but more then likely not give you a ticket, some people just need a wake up call to be more aware of there speed.

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Originally Posted by Bret86944

What is the distance police can accurately shoot radar & laser? In the hypothetical situation that I was over the speed limit (which none of us Z owners ever are, of course), and I could see a police car off in the distance, can he easily get me or is he typically getting cars that are closer?

Line of sight, if I can see your car the radar will pick you up.

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Originally Posted by Onelownismo

Possibly a dumb question but....

When you see a speed limit sign, where does that speed limit come into play? Immediately at the sign, or as soon as you can see it?

I've also always wondered about left turn on red, onto a one way street. What's the deal with that?

Speed limit will change as soon as you pass the sign. I dont get your second question.

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Who do you work for?

Hamilton County Sheriff's Office

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

Now for something completely different. What's with "Do you have any illegal guns, drugs, ... in your car?" Has anybody ever answered "Yes" to that question?

Yes, dont know why but yes they have, and BC of that I have cut them a brake one time it was for a little bit of weed. I put it in as found property so it could be destroid. Honesty goes along way with me.

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Why do the police always ask "Do you know why I pulled you over?".

Those are rookies... lol I always introduce my self and explain why I stopped you. I.E. you ran a stop sign.

Wonka2581 · 08-28-2013, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ElVee

1) What position do you have for people who legally carry a handgun in their car? Good idea, risky? Should that fall under conceal carry, since I doubt anyone should leave a gun in an unattended car? Are there better alternatives for personal safety? My personal opinion is that a gun is a situation escalator, not a situation diffuser.

2) When I see a cop in a car either while driving, stopped at a stoplight, or just sitting along the road, should I wave? I know cops are people, too, and I want to be friendly and supportive, but I also don't want to draw unnecessary attention to myself (not that I'm doing anything bad) nor want to have a wave be mistaken for a more rude gesture or plea for attention/help. (Yeah, I'm in introvert!)

3) Thank you for keeping us safe.

Law enforcement is too often heralded as an annoyance, but it's the rules and keeping people in them that backbones our culture and morals.

I wish all poeple who are able to carry would carry. Guns are safe people hurt people. Always follow your local laws on gun carry. And a weapon should only be pulled and used if it is a life or death situation. I could go into this for ever but trying to keep it short and simple. 2nd amendment is for good.

Wave or stop and say hello if you want to, we are people too. I ahve people wave and stop me to say hi all the time, Its kinda nice to get that some times from people. And your welcome.

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Originally Posted by Zbrah

My buddy wants to be a police officer, he just graduated college with degree in criminal justice, any tips for him to get his start in the field?

He has a degree thats a good thing. Its probly one of the hardest jobs to get. Just tell him not to give up he will get it. It took my 3 years of trying before I got in.

I thought I would share this with everyone,

What is a policeman - Paul Harvey - YouTube

This is a website that has every Fallen brother's and sisters who has made the ultimate sacrifice, It gets updated daily.

Officer Down Memorial Page (ODMP)

axmea? · 08-27-2013, 01:00 AM

Wonka! I love this thread. Repped.

Cell! Thanks for chiming in. Repped as well.

My question has nothing to do with being stopped or the legality around stops. More about safety and being aware of your surroundings. Any best practices that you can share from your point of view aside from keeping distance, monitoring speed, etc. I just wonder what you look for as an officer. What do you look out for or pay attention to? How far ahead and behind do you look?

Mr&Mrs · 08-27-2013, 01:44 AM

1) Are you supposed to chase someone driving 30+ over the speed limit? Or is there any number you are to not persue?

2) What is your magic number and your general "force's" number on pulling a speeding driver as long as there is nothing wreckless envolved? 1-3 over 5-7 over 10-13 over etc.

Thanks

madwi · 08-27-2013, 07:05 AM

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eastwest2300 · 08-27-2013, 07:46 AM

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Got a bank heist coming up?

Mr&Mrs · 08-27-2013, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by madwi

Got a bank heist coming up?

Really though I hear that officers are not to chase (over certain speeds) because it can cause more harm than good. Everything I see tells me the thrill takes over and the person fleeing gets chased anyway.

In my area I also hear most officers will let you get away with 8-10 MPH over on the highway and 4-5 over all other areas, as long as your not being an *** hat. Just curious on the answer from other borders.

1325 · 08-27-2013, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr&Mrs

Really though I hear that officers are not to chase (over certain speeds) because it can cause more harm than good. Everything I see tells me the thrill takes over and the person fleeing gets chased anyway.

Most agencies should/do have a pursuit policy due to extreme liability. The only time my agency permits a pursuit is strictly for forcible felonies. Some agencies may have speed limitations in their policy, some do not.

SouthArk370Z · 08-27-2013, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr&Mrs

In my area I also hear most officers will let you get away with 8-10 MPH over on the highway and 4-5 over all other areas, as long as your not being an *** hat. Just curious on the answer from other borders.

I've received only 4 speeding tickets in my 40+ years of driving. None below 9 mph over the limit. There are supposed to be several small towns in the area that will ticket you for 2-3 miles over but I don't personally know anyone that has been bit for such a minor infraction. In my experience, your 8-10/4-5 seems about right. I've been pulled over twice and told it was for going 3-4 miles over the limit but no ticket was issued so I'm assuming they just wanted to check me out. I usually set the cruise at 7-8 over. When my Dad is in the car, I set it a 3-4 over because he'll point it out if I go faster.

Edit: I found out that I do know someone that got a ticket for 3 mph over the limit. A friend of mine got that ticket in Minden, LA.

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Mr&Mrs A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,207 Drives: RZ34 Rep Power: 31940	1) Are you supposed to chase someone driving 30+ over the speed limit? Or is there any number you are to not persue? 2) What is your magic number and your general "force's" number on pulling a speeding driver as long as there is nothing wreckless envolved? 1-3 over 5-7 over 10-13 over etc. Thanks __________________ Project Z <--Click - Check out the link too many mods to list!

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