Who REALLY KNOWS about diamonds

DEpointfive0

So... The retard brother is going to marry the retard gf.

He wants to spend $30-40k JUST on the diamond.


Now, we got the 4C's or whatever, but lets not BS each other, a NORMAL person doesn't REALLY know what they're looking at. (I DO know that you're supposed to buy the diamond NOT in a ring.)

He WILL be buying a certified diamond, but is it easy to fake a cert? Do you NEED to take a scale with you? Do you need to take a diamond tester?

And he's either buying it from one of these brokers that comes to you and meets you up with 50 stones or a shop in Downtown where we have a family friend...



ANY help would be awesome and greatly appreciated!




Thanks again!
Andrew

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Zbrah

Visit this website and go there, if your brother has 40K on just a diamond, this is where you should go, they will educate you on what to look for and help you find the best for your money. Their office is in downtown Long Beach. I used to work there few years back. Ask for Mark Schneider himself, a very good honest man, he is the owner and he will take care of your brother.

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JARblue

I recommend the legitimate business with store front, especially if it's a family friend.

Is there a particular reason for the budget? Does it just need to be large? Or does he want absolutely flawless characteristics? You can get a huge diamond with a lot of flaws for that much or you can get a much more reasonable sized one that is damn near perfect.

Also, the grades are very subjective. While you might look at two diamonds that are the graded identically, depending on the individual grading them, they might be very different in price because one has far more flaws. My experience with this is that the legitimate guys grade a lot tougher, so a gem that at first look appears to be lower quality might actually have fewer and/or smaller flaws than one from a traveling salesman that is graded higher.

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DEpointfive0

LMAO!!! We ARE Iranian, so you never know

We're with a broker right now and yeah, the headings so far seem retarded... No rhyme or reason behind them.

As for the budget, the guy's a dentist... Now, he COULD go by the 3 months of the salary rule... But I told him that I'd kill him if he did that, and thank god he said that was too much too

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fonzo179

DEpointfive0 My congrats to your brother for the committment. I'm sorry I can't provide more input on the diamond particulars, friend. For what it's worth, each time I do business any amount over $1000 with retailers, I conduct a sit-down with the store manager and specialist at the same time. I am a crude, heartless, uncharacteristically aggressive businessman. I just don't like people trying to pull the rape with my money.

My only recommendation is to grill your salesman and his boss. Even if you are not a diamond expert, be a "BS" expert and make them sweat. That much money for diamonds should have you at the top of their priority list, as opposed to a "next in line" kind of customer.

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kenchan

wow $30-40K just on the diamond!

is he making an oil rig drill or something with it?

DEpointfive0

Oh, and he's wants 2.5-4 karots I think

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kenchan

is that like a golf ball sized hail?

TreeSemdyZee

IMHO that is frickin' ridiculous. I've got a 1.7 karat ring (it was my grandpa's, my dad's and now mine) on my fat hand and it still looks huge.

A ring that huge is just asking to get rolled.

Zbrah

DEpointfive0

Here's the thing, if you made $500k~ a year, would you ONLY buy a $10-20k ring? (Using the traditional method he'd have to buy her a $125k ring, so thank god he isn't completely retarded)

So far we've narrowed it down to a 2.7 and a 3.11 karot diamond. $33k~

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if i made ~$500k a year i'd still buy a $40 ring

e: and she wouldn't know i made $500k a year, she'd think i made $50k a year

e2: never mind now that i think about it... it'd be kinda hard to hide your job/salary from someone you're marrying

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TreeSemdyZee

My grandpa paid like $800 for this stone a long time ago.



Makes sense I guess. I'd definitely go far quality as opposed to size when spending that kind of money. I saw a 1.5 karat IF, D color stone about 20 years ago and they were asking $25k at the time. It looked huge because it was so white and literally spotless. Plus it was an emerald cut.

DEpointfive0

Yeah, I believe that 3.11 was H/I color cut was great, A flourescent, and 33k, the 2.7 was E/G, no fluorescents or ANYTHING and they wanted $36k~

At the end of the day, he can't do a 1.5 carot stone no matter how nice it is because it's just too small for someone with his job to buy (even if it IS $20k), we WERE looking at an even better 2.4, but it looked a bit too small for his liking.

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Tazicon

I guess this must be a first wedding? My first wife was very materialistic and I am very glad to be rid of that one! If the future wife would have a problem with the size of any ring he buys her then she is not the right one to begin with. My second wife of 13 years doesn't even have a ring.