Who REALLY KNOWS about diamonds

DEpointfive0 · 08-05-2013, 03:26 PM

So... The retard brother is going to marry the retard gf.

He wants to spend $30-40k JUST on the diamond.

Now, we got the 4C's or whatever, but lets not BS each other, a NORMAL person doesn't REALLY know what they're looking at. (I DO know that you're supposed to buy the diamond NOT in a ring.)

He WILL be buying a certified diamond, but is it easy to fake a cert? Do you NEED to take a scale with you? Do you need to take a diamond tester?

And he's either buying it from one of these brokers that comes to you and meets you up with 50 stones or a shop in Downtown where we have a family friend...

ANY help would be awesome and greatly appreciated!

Thanks again!
Andrew

Zbrah · 08-05-2013, 04:00 PM

Visit this website and go there, if your brother has 40K on just a diamond, this is where you should go, they will educate you on what to look for and help you find the best for your money. Their office is in downtown Long Beach. I used to work there few years back. Ask for Mark Schneider himself, a very good honest man, he is the owner and he will take care of your brother.

Engagement Rings and Fine Colored Gemstone Jewelry | Mark Schneider Design

JARblue · 08-05-2013, 04:01 PM

I recommend the legitimate business with store front, especially if it's a family friend.

Is there a particular reason for the budget? Does it just need to be large? Or does he want absolutely flawless characteristics? You can get a huge diamond with a lot of flaws for that much or you can get a much more reasonable sized one that is damn near perfect.

Also, the grades are very subjective. While you might look at two diamonds that are the graded identically, depending on the individual grading them, they might be very different in price because one has far more flaws. My experience with this is that the legitimate guys grade a lot tougher, so a gem that at first look appears to be lower quality might actually have fewer and/or smaller flaws than one from a traveling salesman that is graded higher.

kenchan · 08-05-2013, 04:04 PM

wow $30-40K just on the diamond!

is he making an oil rig drill or something with it?

DEpointfive0 · 08-05-2013, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

wow $30-40K just on the diamond!
is he making an oil rig drill or something with it?

LMAO!!! We ARE Iranian, so you never know

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Originally Posted by JARblue

I recommend the legitimate business with store front, especially if it's a family friend.

Is there a particular reason for the budget? Does it just need to be large? Or does he want absolutely flawless characteristics? You can get a huge diamond with a lot of flaws for that much or you can get a much more reasonable sized one that is damn near perfect.

Also, the grades are very subjective. While you might look at two diamonds that are the graded identically, depending on the individual grading them, they might be very different in price because one has far more flaws. My experience with this is that the legitimate guys grade a lot tougher, so a gem that at first look appears to be lower quality might actually have fewer and/or smaller flaws than one from a traveling salesman that is graded higher.

We're with a broker right now and yeah, the headings so far seem retarded... No rhyme or reason behind them.

As for the budget, the guy's a dentist... Now, he COULD go by the 3 months of the salary rule... But I told him that I'd kill him if he did that, and thank god he said that was too much too

DEpointfive0 · 08-05-2013, 04:17 PM

Oh, and he's wants 2.5-4 karots I think

fonzo179 · 08-05-2013, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

I recommend the legitimate business with store front, especially if it's a family friend.

Also, the grades are very subjective. While you might look at two diamonds that are the graded identically, depending on the individual grading them, they might be very different in price because one has far more flaws.

DEpointfive0 My congrats to your brother for the committment

. I'm sorry I can't provide more input on the diamond particulars, friend. For what it's worth, each time I do business any amount over $1000 with retailers, I conduct a sit-down with the store manager and specialist at the same time. I am a crude, heartless, uncharacteristically aggressive businessman. I just don't like people trying to pull the rape with my money

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My only recommendation is to grill your salesman and his boss. Even if you are not a diamond expert, be a "BS" expert and make them sweat. That much money for diamonds should have you at the top of their priority list, as opposed to a "next in line" kind of customer.

XiP · 08-05-2013, 04:22 PM

I don't know anything about diamonds sorry

30-40k for a rock... hmm....

JARblue · 08-05-2013, 04:28 PM

A 4 carat princess cut should look huge, and for the budget, you should be able to find one with good color and no noticeable flaws (to the untrained eye). An emerald or asscher cut will cost more (or be smaller) and may not look quite as large because of the chamfered edges, but they will have a much better sparkle due to more facets.

1st · 08-05-2013, 04:42 PM

Wow! she’s going have a Z on her finger. That’s amazing.

XiP · 08-05-2013, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 1st

Wow! she’s going have a Z on her finger. That’s amazing.

lol i was thinking should just buy her a Z and a $40 ring

JARblue · 08-05-2013, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by XiP

lol i was thinking should just buy her a Z and a $40 ring

at least you'd have a Z when she leaves you

kenchan · 08-05-2013, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Oh, and he's wants 2.5-4 karots I think

is that like a golf ball sized hail?

6MT · 08-05-2013, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

So... The retard brother is going to marry the retard gf.

He wants to spend $30-40k JUST on the diamond.

ANY help would be awesome and greatly appreciated!

Thanks again!
Andrew

Psychiatric help would be my advice.

TreeSemdyZee · 08-06-2013, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Oh, and he's wants 2.5-4 karots I think

IMHO that is frickin' ridiculous. I've got a 1.7 karat ring (it was my grandpa's, my dad's and now mine) on my fat hand and it still looks huge.

A ring that huge is just asking to get rolled.

08-05-2013, 03:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
DEpointfive0 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17152	Who REALLY KNOWS about diamonds So... The retard brother is going to marry the retard gf. He wants to spend $30-40k JUST on the diamond. Now, we got the 4C's or whatever, but lets not BS each other, a NORMAL person doesn't REALLY know what they're looking at. (I DO know that you're supposed to buy the diamond NOT in a ring.) He WILL be buying a certified diamond, but is it easy to fake a cert? Do you NEED to take a scale with you? Do you need to take a diamond tester? And he's either buying it from one of these brokers that comes to you and meets you up with 50 stones or a shop in Downtown where we have a family friend... ANY help would be awesome and greatly appreciated! Thanks again! Andrew __________________ Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from? ( Click to show/hide ) NSFW due to language:

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JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 44 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684441	I recommend the legitimate business with store front, especially if it's a family friend. Is there a particular reason for the budget? Does it just need to be large? Or does he want absolutely flawless characteristics? You can get a huge diamond with a lot of flaws for that much or you can get a much more reasonable sized one that is damn near perfect. Also, the grades are very subjective. While you might look at two diamonds that are the graded identically, depending on the individual grading them, they might be very different in price because one has far more flaws. My experience with this is that the legitimate guys grade a lot tougher, so a gem that at first look appears to be lower quality might actually have fewer and/or smaller flaws than one from a traveling salesman that is graded higher. GaleForce, fonzo179 and XiP like this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	wow $30-40K just on the diamond! is he making an oil rig drill or something with it? XiP likes this.

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DEpointfive0 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17152	Oh, and he's wants 2.5-4 karots I think __________________ Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from? ( Click to show/hide ) NSFW due to language:

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XiP A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: no clipping Posts: 11,096 Drives: ↑ ↓ Rep Power: 534	I don't know anything about diamonds sorry 30-40k for a rock... hmm.... __________________ I <3 Frost!!!

08-05-2013, 04:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
Zbrah A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: The370Z.com Posts: 4,956 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 5452	Visit this website and go there, if your brother has 40K on just a diamond, this is where you should go, they will educate you on what to look for and help you find the best for your money. Their office is in downtown Long Beach. I used to work there few years back. Ask for Mark Schneider himself, a very good honest man, he is the owner and he will take care of your brother. Engagement Rings and Fine Colored Gemstone Jewelry \| Mark Schneider Design

08-05-2013, 04:28 PM	#9 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 44 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684441	A 4 carat princess cut should look huge, and for the budget, you should be able to find one with good color and no noticeable flaws (to the untrained eye). An emerald or asscher cut will cost more (or be smaller) and may not look quite as large because of the chamfered edges, but they will have a much better sparkle due to more facets. DEpointfive0 likes this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

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1st A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: I 80 Biz U.S. 50 Posts: 1,710 Drives: Platinum Z Rep Power: 1616	Wow! she’s going have a Z on her finger. That’s amazing. JARblue and fonzo179 like this.

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