Next Generation Gaming Systems

Mr&Mrs · 06-13-2013, 09:26 AM

I agree with almost all of this. The Halo series sells systems. I do not even play them anymore but I still buy them all because I remember all the good times I had with it when I was younger.

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Originally Posted by jofro6

I totally understand your point with the pricing in family situations. I was just saying price point as moot, in our general grouping here, adults buying for themselves as this is a 'which are you buying' thread. As for developers choosing which system to develop for? I feel like most major games are on both systems, so obviously that cost and ease arent a real issue. SUre there are games that are only on one that you speak of, but disregarding the ones that im sure the companies pay for rights to an exclusive deal with, those games are almost blah for most hardcore gamers i feel. They arent sytem decision making games (the smaller games that are only on one due to ease of development) This is of course just my feelings from experience, and in no way based on factual numbers that ive researched lol

as for your other question, that would be interesting to know about expensive systems ruling over cheaper ones.

Chuck33079 · 06-13-2013, 09:49 AM

I'm on my fifth 360. Granted, I only paid for the first and fifth one due to the warranty extension they gave launch owners, but that's still an awful failure rate. My first PS3 is flaky, but still mostly works. I'll wait until MS has worked the kinks out of their product. I'll be damned if I ever buy the first run of their products again.

ElVee · 06-13-2013, 09:54 AM

I personally just wish I had more time and interest in handhelds again. Being mid-30s, I have a ton of nostalgia for gaming, especially the versatility and library of the Gameboy. And they're real games as opposed to flash-based mini-games on mobile touchscreen devices.

It's kinda sad, but I still chase after emulator devices that let me play old games. For instance, I have a GCW-Zero kickstarter device hopefully arriving soon...

Coon-azz · 06-13-2013, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr&Mrs

I am just curious to see how people on this forum feel about the new systems over the horizon. I would like to read everyone’s thoughts and concerns, pros and cons, etc.

My relationship with Microsoft and the Xbox go back to the prerelease of the original system. I was actually honored enough to be a beta tester for the Xbox, and again with Xbox Live before it was introduced. So I lean very much towards this franchise for my gaming experience.

That said I am very unsettled and torn between the Xbox One and PS4. They both look to be very solid systems to bring us entertainment for many years to come. What concerns me with the Xbox One is the direction Microsoft has chosen to go with, and if you have done any reading you know what I mean.

Let’s face it anymore these two companies give just about the same quality in performance and graphics. I do not see the point in arguing those facts it is pretty much mute. As stated above though Microsoft has chosen a rough road with it gaming side of the system. At this point the only thing that makes me want an Xbox One is this: Illumiroom Wiki

I’m sure I will end up with both systems within a couple years but I really want to make sure I choose the right system first. I will be buying two of which ever one I decide on (one for the wife as well). It has always been the Xbox in the past, but this time I can’t decide on my own.

Xbox One: Wiki Link
PS4: Wiki Link

Thanks for any input and have fun making your choice this holiday season!

Over the years, I've had 3 xbox's. Everyone died within the first year. Had a PS3 for 2 years now and have never had a single issue. XBOX will never enter my house again.

Mr&Mrs · 06-13-2013, 12:04 PM

I know most of the Xboxes problems were due to overheating. Makes me wonder where all of these units were being stored while playing. I purchased one of the intercooler fans for each of my 360s and kept them out where they could ventilate properly, and I have had 0 issues. My original is still running like a champ.

Chuck33079 · 06-13-2013, 12:06 PM

Mine had the fan, and was placed in a good spot for airflow. Still got the original swapped out 3x under warranty. When the fourth died and the warranty had expired, I bought one of the newer build ones (elite, i think?) and haven't had a problem since.

SAmilitaryman · 06-13-2013, 12:25 PM

I've had a PS3 since '06. It has never failed me. I used to play video games but as I got older ( 31 this month ) I found that video games don't really hold much appeal for me for longer than an hour or two and i'd rather be doing something outside. Now my PS3 is used for Netflix and Blu Rays.

No desire to buy a new console until this one kicks the bucket and the way its going ill have this one for a long long while still.

SS_Firehawk · 06-13-2013, 12:44 PM

The issue with the Xbox was not just overheating. It was the inferior solder they used on the GPU. Given the constant heat expansion and contraction, these solder points can break. I had some issues with a graphics card giving me crazy colors n squares a couple times. I stripped it down, turned on the oven to a low heat, put it in there for 15 min or so, took it out, let it cool off, strap the HSF back on and was G2G. I heard the trick worked with the Xbox's as well. It's basically melting the soldering points enough to reconnect those contact points. Don't be like some idiots and place your $hit upside down and look at your gpu sitting on your pan instead of the board it was once on.

Chuck33079 · 06-13-2013, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk

The issue with the Xbox was not just overheating. It was the inferior solder they used on the GPU. Given the constant heat expansion and contraction, these solder points can break.

That's the way I remember it as well. I'd have gotten one of my electonics-savvy buddies to resolder it, but there was no way I was doing anything that would let MS weasel out of the warranty on something that broke that much.

ElVee · 06-13-2013, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr&Mrs

I know most of the Xboxes problems were due to overheating. Makes me wonder where all of these units were being stored while playing. I purchased one of the intercooler fans for each of my 360s and kept them out where they could ventilate properly, and I have had 0 issues. My original is still running like a champ.

This was always my theory as well; since so many were kept in entertainment cabinets with little to no air flow. Granted, it has been shown/admitted that the manufacturer had used a cheap part inside that was prone to failure under repeated high heat, but still.

I only had one die out and it was the disc reader of all things.

Update: Beaten to the punch by people with better memories than I.

eastwest2300 · 06-13-2013, 01:46 PM

Thanks for sticky'ing this thread... Im definitely a PlayStation fan, I dont think I'll ever own another xbox. I had the original xbox when it came out a loong time ago.

Chuck33079 · 06-13-2013, 01:48 PM

I don't understand the either/or mentality. Over the next four or five years, I'll end up with both. I'll get one (most likely xbox) about a year in after the kinks are worked out, and the other in a couple years when the companies start playing "deuling price cuts" and there's enough exclusive games out to justify it. I'm not sold on the new Nintendo. I'll probably pass on that until I can get a cheapo used one.

eastwest2300 · 06-13-2013, 01:51 PM

Thats actually a pretty good idea waiting, although its usually several years before they start slashing prices.

Chuck33079 · 06-13-2013, 01:56 PM

It usually takes that long before there's enough exclusive games to make me buy another system anyway.

Coon-azz · 06-13-2013, 04:37 PM

yeah, ya know, don't get me wrong, I like my xbox, but after the 3rd one... no way. I had it elevated and a fan always blowing on it when playing. still got the 3rings of death on 2 units and went through months of issue to get them to replace it.

View Poll Results: Which System Will You Be Choosing?
Xbox One Hands Down	20	20.00%
PS4 Hands Down	49	49.00%
Xbox One by a Smidge	10	10.00%
PS4 by a Smidge	3	3.00%
Im Going to Wait for Consumer Reviews	11	11.00%
My Xbox 360 or PS3 is all I Need	7	7.00%
Voters: 100. You may not vote on this poll

06-13-2013, 09:49 AM	#47 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	I'm on my fifth 360. Granted, I only paid for the first and fifth one due to the warranty extension they gave launch owners, but that's still an awful failure rate. My first PS3 is flaky, but still mostly works. I'll wait until MS has worked the kinks out of their product. I'll be damned if I ever buy the first run of their products again. Mr&Mrs likes this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

06-13-2013, 09:54 AM	#48 (permalink)
ElVee Track Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Iowa Posts: 750 Drives: 13 370z 7at t+s grey Rep Power: 16	I personally just wish I had more time and interest in handhelds again. Being mid-30s, I have a ton of nostalgia for gaming, especially the versatility and library of the Gameboy. And they're real games as opposed to flash-based mini-games on mobile touchscreen devices. It's kinda sad, but I still chase after emulator devices that let me play old games. For instance, I have a GCW-Zero kickstarter device hopefully arriving soon... Mr&Mrs and SAmilitaryman like this.

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Mr&Mrs A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,207 Drives: RZ34 Rep Power: 31940	I know most of the Xboxes problems were due to overheating. Makes me wonder where all of these units were being stored while playing. I purchased one of the intercooler fans for each of my 360s and kept them out where they could ventilate properly, and I have had 0 issues. My original is still running like a champ. jofro6 and coolvans1988 like this. __________________ Project Z <--Click - Check out the link too many mods to list!

06-13-2013, 12:06 PM	#51 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Mine had the fan, and was placed in a good spot for airflow. Still got the original swapped out 3x under warranty. When the fourth died and the warranty had expired, I bought one of the newer build ones (elite, i think?) and haven't had a problem since. Mr&Mrs likes this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

06-13-2013, 12:25 PM	#52 (permalink)
SAmilitaryman Base Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: san antonio, tx Posts: 168 Drives: 09 Nissan black 370z Rep Power: 12	I've had a PS3 since '06. It has never failed me. I used to play video games but as I got older ( 31 this month ) I found that video games don't really hold much appeal for me for longer than an hour or two and i'd rather be doing something outside. Now my PS3 is used for Netflix and Blu Rays. No desire to buy a new console until this one kicks the bucket and the way its going ill have this one for a long long while still. Mr&Mrs and gomer_110 like this.

06-13-2013, 12:44 PM	#53 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7335	The issue with the Xbox was not just overheating. It was the inferior solder they used on the GPU. Given the constant heat expansion and contraction, these solder points can break. I had some issues with a graphics card giving me crazy colors n squares a couple times. I stripped it down, turned on the oven to a low heat, put it in there for 15 min or so, took it out, let it cool off, strap the HSF back on and was G2G. I heard the trick worked with the Xbox's as well. It's basically melting the soldering points enough to reconnect those contact points. Don't be like some idiots and place your $hit upside down and look at your gpu sitting on your pan instead of the board it was once on. Mr&Mrs and Chuck33079 like this. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

06-13-2013, 01:46 PM	#56 (permalink)
eastwest2300 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: South FL Posts: 90,989 Drives: '16QX70/'21 Supra3.0 Rep Power: 2684550	Thanks for sticky'ing this thread... Im definitely a PlayStation fan, I dont think I'll ever own another xbox. I had the original xbox when it came out a loong time ago. Mr&Mrs likes this. __________________ Infiniti QX70 & Toyota Supra 3.0 Premium

06-13-2013, 01:48 PM	#57 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	I don't understand the either/or mentality. Over the next four or five years, I'll end up with both. I'll get one (most likely xbox) about a year in after the kinks are worked out, and the other in a couple years when the companies start playing "deuling price cuts" and there's enough exclusive games out to justify it. I'm not sold on the new Nintendo. I'll probably pass on that until I can get a cheapo used one. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

06-13-2013, 01:51 PM	#58 (permalink)
eastwest2300 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: South FL Posts: 90,989 Drives: '16QX70/'21 Supra3.0 Rep Power: 2684550	Thats actually a pretty good idea waiting, although its usually several years before they start slashing prices. __________________ Infiniti QX70 & Toyota Supra 3.0 Premium

06-13-2013, 01:56 PM	#59 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	It usually takes that long before there's enough exclusive games to make me buy another system anyway. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

06-13-2013, 04:37 PM	#60 (permalink)
Coon-azz Track Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Fredericksburg,VA Posts: 689 Drives: '12 370z Sport DD Rep Power: 14	yeah, ya know, don't get me wrong, I like my xbox, but after the 3rd one... no way. I had it elevated and a fan always blowing on it when playing. still got the 3rings of death on 2 units and went through months of issue to get them to replace it. __________________ I don't care how slow you want to drive; I encourage it. JUST GET THE HELL OUT OF THE PASSING LANE YOU TUCK FARD!!!

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