Next Generation Gaming Systems

theDreamer · 06-19-2013, 04:10 PM

I agree, neither is really a day 1 buy but nor was a 360 or PS3.
I picked up a PS3 when they produced the 40GB version without BC and has survived since then. I am leaning towards the One this time for the home integration setup, but no games making me really jump.

Mr&Mrs · 06-19-2013, 04:11 PM

I forgot to mention the Kinect/privacy aspect. That being a reason to not get the Xbox One I understand to a degree. Someone wanting their privacy is very important and you should feel 100% satisfied in knowing that it is secure.

It just does not bother me because I have come to realize our privacy is already gone whether we think it is or not. If they want information they will get it. Would the Kinect possibly be an easier route for them to obtain information? Yes. Do I think that is the purpose of it? No. I truly believe when they say I can turn it off (it does need to remain plugged in) that it is off, and will stay off.

I feel like a Microsoft advocate all of a sudden

Both systems are going to be great. We are going to have a blast over the next 10-15 years with them. If you choose the PS4 over the Xbox One, great, just do it for the right reasons. Not because "Everyone else is doing it".

There is no denying Microsoft delivered the best online gaming experience with the current (soon to be last) generation of gaming. I am 100% confident they will deliver again and that is why I am choosing them over the PS4 (for online gaming). Heck it was designed to be online at all times. Makes sense it would be the best route for online gaming.

P.S im also getting a PS4 I like both!

saber · 06-19-2013, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

I agree, neither is really a day 1 buy but nor was a 360 or PS3.
I picked up a PS3 when they produced the 40GB version without BC and has survived since then. I am leaning towards the One this time for the home integration setup, but no games making me really jump.

As someone looking to purchase a house, honestly if I had to choose one RIGHT NOW, it'd be the XBox One. I like the idea of having everything fully integrated.

Everybody is yelling at MSFT because there are devices that do things better than the XBox One claims its capabilities to be, but I can see what Microsoft is doing here. YES there are multiple devices, but why deal with 7 remotes when you have just one? I'd love to have a house TV with just my XBox underneath it, controlling everything. Easy as hell to clean up

I agree with privacy - if you're signed up for Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, ANYTHING SOCIAL - you're already giving up the majority of your privacy rights. Are you really going to draw the line at a video game machine? It's the most backwards way possible for the government to 'spy' on you...and again, it's fixed with a simple post it

Mr&Mrs · 06-19-2013, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ElVee

I play quite a bit of Call of Duty. Based on the people who talk on there, there are plenty of poor people who have an xbox, the game, and an internet connection to talk smack on.

I swear, I feel dumber after every other gaming session for it.

I think your friend just wanted to stick to his original argument and not admit to being wrong. (A very, very, very common behavioral trait.) But he does have a couple points (sort of).

Microsoft has a LOT of damage control to take care of, and some PR heads need to roll for not just being bad, but letting Sony take complete advantage of the situation. All of this confusion should never have happened. Clearly Sony has their gameplan in place and Microsoft is still unsure what's going on.

And the XBONE will cost more than the PS4 for now. That's a decently big deal, to be honest. Not a killer one, but it's an important consideration. Something Sony knows too well since the PS3's high original price. Microsoft needs to match that, or get very, very close to it.

Good point, Sony did suffer quite a bit from their price point. Also dont forget how many Xbox 360's were already sitting in the comfort of a new home before the PS3 was released. That hurt their sales alot as well.

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

I have a few friends that are like that, they are not buy a Xbox One because of all the BS on the internet. And yet...this is how it goes usually.

-So you do not want to have to connect all the time, but you play online everyday?
*Well, yeah but I don't want it to connect.

-So you are upset you have to buy it with a kinect yet you uses your v1.0 all the time & said before you wanted the updated one?
*Well, yeah but what if I did not want it?
-So you don't want the kinect 2.0?
*Well, no I want it.

So and so forth, and then when you say the fact they just back pedal and go. Well the PS4 has random X item, which I have never mentioned before nor will ever need but it makes my claim better now.

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Originally Posted by saber

I've just about concluded I won't be getting anything on Day One. Can't be bothered with the XBox One unless something dramatically changes (not even mad about DRM or anything, just don't see me splashing out for it so quickly, and look what happened on 1st gen 360s!), and the PS4 has no game that interests me, nor do I give two cents about the social integration. Last thing I need is every 12 year old spamming the social button and then shouting how you're on his latest killcam.

Some responses about kinect are funny. Microsoft has confirmed you can turn Kinect off so it's defunct; all the system does is check if the peripheral is there. Don't like it? Do what I do at work: put a post it on top of the camera.

It's been mentioned before but if XBox goes through with their game sharing philosophy, gamefly is f*cked.

I hate the social integration as well. If you are a person (im not) that uses a social media outlet and have a lot of friends that game look out. Your phone/email is going to blow up with a bunch of the same BS kill feeds/"highlights". I hope there is a way to block them.

They should make a scary movie featuring the Kinect as the view from the bushes of the hot blonde in the shower right before it shoots a laser that makes her head explode. Not before sending a bunch of images to the guys at NSA to jerk off to though

I am a little worried for GameFly and hope the developers can possibly come up with a way to do a dealer license of some sort. Kind of how Microsoft does with PC builders. Im not to sure how that stuff works or if its possible. Its a thought anyway....

Mr&Mrs · 06-19-2013, 04:25 PM

Well put!

Quote:

Originally Posted by saber

As someone looking to purchase a house, honestly if I had to choose one RIGHT NOW, it'd be the XBox One. I like the idea of having everything fully integrated.

Everybody is yelling at MSFT because there are devices that do things better than the XBox One claims its capabilities to be, but I can see what Microsoft is doing here. YES there are multiple devices, but why deal with 7 remotes when you have just one? I'd love to have a house TV with just my XBox underneath it, controlling everything. Easy as hell to clean up

I agree with privacy - if you're signed up for Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, ANYTHING SOCIAL - you're already giving up the majority of your privacy rights. Are you really going to draw the line at a video game machine? It's the most backwards way possible for the government to 'spy' on you...and again, it's fixed with a simple post it

theDreamer · 06-19-2013, 04:27 PM

THE NEW XBOX ONE WANTS ALL YOUR DATA!!! IT IS A PRIVACY ISSUE!!!! - Posted on Facebook

theDreamer · 06-19-2013, 04:38 PM

http://gizmodo.com/microsoft-might-b...ting-514393553

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Anonymous sources tell Giant Bomb that the reversal is going to be complete: no more 24-hour check-ins, used games will work just like they did on the 360, no region locking for games, all games will be playable offline.

shadoquad · 06-19-2013, 04:38 PM

Again, xbox one is not an option for me in part because of privacy. This and some other car forums are my social interface. If you drill enough down, you can find me, but I don't just throw it out there.

Microsoft doesn't need to listen in on me, look at pictures of my stuff, or enable a motivated hacker to do the same.

Also it is overpriced due to the kinect being mandatory.

And there are other reasons.

Just restating my position in the midst of all this privacy exasperation sentiment

saber · 06-19-2013, 04:46 PM

Hide all you want shado, I'll still find you

shadoquad · 06-19-2013, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saber

Hide all you want shado, I'll still find you

You were lookin for me? Mebbe nao I buy one...

For teh bedroom

Mr&Mrs · 06-19-2013, 04:49 PM

Was it the scary movie comment?

That is why I said you deserve to feel 100% secure. I was just stating I do. By design you can not hack systems in a manner to control them. At most you can hack into the MS servers and steal account info. Which did happen to me on one of my accounts. Some kid spent all my points on FIFA soccer downloads.

I agree the Xbox One is not for you

Unlike Sony all of my CC information was encrypted and not stolen in the process. Lets not forget about this Sony Network Outage

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad

Again, xbox one is not an option for me in part because of privacy. This and some other car forums are my social interface. If you drill enough down, you can find me, but I don't just throw it out there.

Microsoft doesn't need to listen in on me, look at pictures of my stuff, or enable a motivated hacker to do the same.

Also it is overpriced due to the kinect being mandatory.

And there are other reasons.

Just restating my position in the midst of all this privacy exasperation sentiment

saber · 06-19-2013, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad

You were lookin for me? Mebbe nao I buy one...

For teh bedroom

<3

ElVee · 06-19-2013, 05:06 PM

I mostly just don't want the device to need it's camera on and take pictures of me and automatically share them with my friends for whatever reason. I'm not too concerned with hackers or the like; being in the industry, that risk is just really not a big deal. For me, it's mostly the sharing and access to things without me specifically granting access or sharing them.

Kinda similar to how some apps want your Facebook/Twitter account and then opt you into sharing what you just watched, clicked on, took a picture of, read, searched for, etc.

Caustic · 06-19-2013, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

http://gizmodo.com/microsoft-might-b...ting-514393553

http://kotaku.com/microsoft-is-remov...-drm-514390310

While it may not have been important for some of you, it was certainly important enough for MS to change policy due to the rest of the community backlash.

SS_Firehawk · 06-19-2013, 06:08 PM

Xbox One Update
Yes!!!!!

View Poll Results: Which System Will You Be Choosing?
Xbox One Hands Down	20	20.00%
PS4 Hands Down	49	49.00%
Xbox One by a Smidge	10	10.00%
PS4 by a Smidge	3	3.00%
Im Going to Wait for Consumer Reviews	11	11.00%
My Xbox 360 or PS3 is all I Need	7	7.00%
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06-19-2013, 04:10 PM	#136 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	I agree, neither is really a day 1 buy but nor was a 360 or PS3. I picked up a PS3 when they produced the 40GB version without BC and has survived since then. I am leaning towards the One this time for the home integration setup, but no games making me really jump. Mr&Mrs likes this. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

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Mr&Mrs A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,207 Drives: RZ34 Rep Power: 31940	I forgot to mention the Kinect/privacy aspect. That being a reason to not get the Xbox One I understand to a degree. Someone wanting their privacy is very important and you should feel 100% satisfied in knowing that it is secure. It just does not bother me because I have come to realize our privacy is already gone whether we think it is or not. If they want information they will get it. Would the Kinect possibly be an easier route for them to obtain information? Yes. Do I think that is the purpose of it? No. I truly believe when they say I can turn it off (it does need to remain plugged in) that it is off, and will stay off. I feel like a Microsoft advocate all of a sudden Both systems are going to be great. We are going to have a blast over the next 10-15 years with them. If you choose the PS4 over the Xbox One, great, just do it for the right reasons. Not because "Everyone else is doing it". There is no denying Microsoft delivered the best online gaming experience with the current (soon to be last) generation of gaming. I am 100% confident they will deliver again and that is why I am choosing them over the PS4 (for online gaming). Heck it was designed to be online at all times. Makes sense it would be the best route for online gaming. P.S im also getting a PS4 I like both! __________________ Project Z <--Click - Check out the link too many mods to list!

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shadoquad A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: . Posts: 42,608 Drives: . Rep Power: 3886	Again, xbox one is not an option for me in part because of privacy. This and some other car forums are my social interface. If you drill enough down, you can find me, but I don't just throw it out there. Microsoft doesn't need to listen in on me, look at pictures of my stuff, or enable a motivated hacker to do the same. Also it is overpriced due to the kinect being mandatory. And there are other reasons. Just restating my position in the midst of all this privacy exasperation sentiment Mr&Mrs likes this.

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ElVee Track Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Iowa Posts: 750 Drives: 13 370z 7at t+s grey Rep Power: 16	I mostly just don't want the device to need it's camera on and take pictures of me and automatically share them with my friends for whatever reason. I'm not too concerned with hackers or the like; being in the industry, that risk is just really not a big deal. For me, it's mostly the sharing and access to things without me specifically granting access or sharing them. Kinda similar to how some apps want your Facebook/Twitter account and then opt you into sharing what you just watched, clicked on, took a picture of, read, searched for, etc. Mr&Mrs likes this.

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