Crowbar, baseball bat, wrench?

Kayzee · 05-13-2013, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Baer383

I'm not hitting anybody with my car and get dead body smell on my fast intentions exhaust.

You be crazy man!!!!!

This.

Dead bodies all over my bumper?!?! Tried that once.

Never again.

dastaco · 05-13-2013, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Xplicit97

The key words being life threatening.. Deadly force no matter the instrument is the same, whether you use a bat a knife or a firearm..

This is something you all need to remember when carrying a bat, crowbar, etc. If you pull a weapon like that during an altercation you are immediately applying deadly force and can be dealt with as such.

Better to drive off and call the cops as opposed to getting shot with a bat in your hand.

Tazicon · 05-13-2013, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dastaco

This is something you all need to remember when carrying a bat, crowbar, etc. If you pull a weapon like that during an altercation you are immediately applying deadly force and can be dealt with as such.

Better to drive off and call the cops as opposed to getting shot with a bat in your hand.

This......I am not against firearms in your vehicle carried legally. I am against people carrying bats and such thinking that is protection.

fonzo179 · 05-13-2013, 01:04 PM

I just keep the tire iron in the back and the Jericho 941 9mm in the glove compartment. My Buck knife stays with me ALWAYS, been that way since I got back from Bahgdad (July 2010).

wheee! · 05-13-2013, 01:18 PM

I keep a handful of the370Z.com stickers handy in case things start to escalate... it's amazing how fast situations are defused with a small gift....

Apoc370z · 05-14-2013, 03:29 PM

I was gonn post a good mother in law joke but i am not married

DatNikkakRUPT · 05-14-2013, 03:34 PM

In a apocalyptic scenario i would choose a crowbar..

Kayzee · 05-14-2013, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DatNikkakRUPT

In a apocalyptic scenario i would choose a crowbar..

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Vertigo · 05-15-2013, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by frost

I used to have a psychotic coworker who carried a sword in his car. He was also trained on using it. I swear one day I'm gonna turn on the news to hear that he beheaded someone on the road.

Hi frost. Long time no see

lol jk

JARblue · 05-15-2013, 10:25 AM

I often have a 4' long digital level in the Z. It's pretty sturdy and could do some damage if necessary. However, I store it immediately behind the strut bar in the hatch which means it's only removable via the hatch door. Not very useful in most situations that might arise.

A bit off topic, but if you have a CHL in Texas, you are much more likely to get in trouble for using your firearm in an emergency situation. It's because you have taken training and you should know better. If you don't have a carry license, you don't know any better, so it's ok to shoot someone in self defense; and it's still legal for you to have a gun in the vehicle if you don't have a license

Chuck33079 · 05-15-2013, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

A bit off topic, but if you have a CHL in Texas, you are much more likely to get in trouble for using your firearm in an emergency situation. It's because you have taken training and you should know better. If you don't have a carry license, you don't know any better, so it's ok to shoot someone in self defense; and it's still legal for you to have a gun in the vehicle if you don't have a license

This sounds wrong to me as a TX CHL holder. You are absolutely allowed to use your weapon in situations in which you can reasonably fear for your life. It's why the CHL is allowed. Maybe you meant NON-emergency situation (in which you shouldn't be using a weapon anyway)?

JARblue · 05-15-2013, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

This sounds wrong to me as a TX CHL holder. You are absolutely allowed to use your weapon in situations in which you can reasonably fear for your life. It's why the CHL is allowed. Maybe you meant NON-emergency situation (in which you shouldn't be using a weapon anyway)?

It sounds wrong because it's not right. Unfortunately, that's how it's being treated. I have read several horror stories about a home owner with a CHL in Texas being robbed, killing the intruder, and then being put on trial for murder. In a very similar situation, a home owner without a CHL is generally not hassled, because they supposedly, "don't know any better". It's a fvcked up situation that punishes responsible gun owners

blackcherry20 · 05-15-2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Kayzee

So how many of you keep a blunt instrument in your vehicle?

I know a few friends of mine always have something in the car be it a metal extension bar for the lug nut wrench or something of the like for a "just in case" situation.

Mind you, I do not advocate confronting road rage or anything of the like with a weapon and advise everyone to safeguard their health more than their beloved fairladies...

Let's hear em.

P.S: Texas need not apply, shotguns don't count, nor do concealed/open carry states.

sigh. I guess I am out then, conceal/carry state AND license here

Chuck33079 · 05-15-2013, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

It sounds wrong because it's not right. Unfortunately, that's how it's being treated. I have read several horror stories about a home owner with a CHL in Texas being robbed, killing the intruder, and then being put on trial for murder. In a very similar situation, a home owner without a CHL is generally not hassled, because they supposedly, "don't know any better". It's a fvcked up situation that punishes responsible gun owners

Eh, I'd need to read the specific cases to see if there's more to it than that. I'm not saying you're wrong, but things here don't add up. It's been a year or so since my last renewal, so I'd have to dig up the handy little book of laws they give you. As far as someone getting away with something due to "not knowing any better" I think there's got to be more to the defense than that. Ignorance of the law has almost never been a successful defense from prosecution.

JARblue · 05-15-2013, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Eh, I'd need to read the specific cases to see if there's more to it than that. I'm not saying you're wrong, but things here don't add up. It's been a year or so since my last renewal, so I'd have to dig up the handy little book of laws they give you. As far as someone getting away with something due to "not knowing any better" I think there's got to be more to the defense than that. Ignorance of the law has almost never been a successful defense from prosecution.

Yeah, I wish I knew a specific case I could refer you to - I get a lot of information first hand from a friend who is active in gun legislation. And it's not that you get away with something because of ignorance of the law. It's that they hold the CHL holders to a higher standard, which makes it more likely for them to be hassled. Most of the people being put on trial for murder aren't being convicted. But the fact remains that they are hassling CHL holders more than non-CHL holders in situations like these.

Knowing what I know, my aim will almost always be for the knee caps, unless they are strapped as well or have other means with which to attack me even if I go for the knees.

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