Street Racing....a lesson learned the hard way

BanningZ · 07-23-2009, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bboypuertoroc

I'm SO glad you jumped on this.

1. There IS such a thing as a street racer with experience. I have PLENTY of experience. Well over 100 drag passes (in the Evo alone) and over 3 seasons of auto-x, three years of running in the mountains, etc. Of course none of this is gonna mitigate what other drivers on the road will do, which is why...

2. I DO NOT race in areas with ANY kind of traffic (that's the **** idiots do). We make absolutely sure there's no traffic before we run. Anything that might HAPPEN to come by is well known since there's there's only 2 ways onto the street (one on each end) and we have cars posted to let us know. On top of that, we race in the middle of the night (anywhere from 12-3) to further limit the chance of traffic. I remember once in the past 3 years a car came down our road while we were there.

3. We don't roll out like some big ricer rice-fest... we go out with about 10 cars MAX. We also don't take idiots that don't know how to control their car with us.

4. Find me an alternative.

2. You can never determine when will be or wont be traffic, no matter how far you can see ahead.

3.) one car or 10 doesn't matter its dangerous.

4.) The track. Thats why there are official meets, autocross, and forum groups who get together on a closed course.

There is NO excuse for street racing. You take your life and other lives and totally disregard them.

Now before the flame shield goes up I have to say that I am an experienced driver, and I have street raced Numerous times. That's before I totaled a car, and had some other friends die or get seriously injured. I'm not trying to be a hypocrite, I just have been there and learned from my experience.

Keep it off public streets, and in a closed coourse enviornemnt where you don't have all those risk factors.

smurfblu13 · 07-23-2009, 03:43 AM

bottom line.. **** is dumb

Don't do it

don't sugar coat it either...

yes I'm sure we have all done it at some point, don't get me wrong.. just be the bigger man and let **** go, believe me NOTHING and I mean NOTHING is worth your life! specially over some dumb ****.

bboypuertoroc · 07-23-2009, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BanningZ

2. You can never determine when or there wont be traffic, no matter how far you can see ahead.

Um, yes we can. You can see headlights up there literally for miles. We CAN determine the traffic. Also, there's NO traffic in that area at night... I've lived here for 3 years, trust me. You've most likely never been there in your life.

3.) one car or 10 doesn't matter its dangerous.

Dangerous as opposed to what? Rush hour is more dangerous out here than what we do.

4.) The track. Thats why there are official meets, autocross, and forum groups who get together on a closed course.

Really? The track? Do you mean the track that doesn't exist on this island? Do you know what we had to do to go to a track? Load our cars up on a ferry and go to Maui. Each of us easily spent around $1000 EACH for ONE track day. And guess what? We no longer have a ferry, so we no longer (again) have access to a race track.

There is NO excuse for street racing. You take your life and other lives and totally disregard them.

I'll disregard my life whenever I damn well chose, whether it be skydiving, surfing, racing, whatever the hell else I want. Myself as well as the rest of the people that go out know damn well the consequences. Do I put others at risk? As much as they do themselves. Like I said, one car in THREE years came by on that road. I hardly say I put anyone in danger that didn't want to be.

Now before the flame shield goes up I have to say that I am an experienced driver, and I have street raced Numerous times. That's before I totaled a car, and had some other friends die or get seriously injured. I'm not trying to be a hypocrite, I just have been there and learned from my experience.

Keep it off public streets, and in a closed coourse enviornemnt where you don't have all those risk factors.

Believe me, if we had a track I'd be there on a weekly basis and would have absolutely no use for the street.

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smurfblu13 · 07-23-2009, 03:59 AM

I don't know man. Street racing is pretty dumb. Don't get me wrong I have done it, and truthfully I regret it. Let's be honest what does a straight line prove? **** I can build a B-18 Honda that'll kill in a straight. So what, that takes no skill in my eyes. A true driver knows when to have some fun and when to take it to a track to have even more fun. I'm sure I'll get flamed on this but I don't give a ****.

bboypuertoroc · 07-23-2009, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by smurfblu13

If you're going to straight line race.. do it on a track.

I'm sorry I could care less how "careful" you are. Don't get me wrong I've done the same thing in my day. Although I look back and see how stupid it was. Take it to a track, if you can afford the mods, you can afford the track. Just my personal opinion.

It takes no "driving" skill what so ever to go in a straight line. Sorry but it's true.

A real track takes skill, if you are good it will show. Have fun there man it's the best kind of fun, legally lol.

I'm done my /rant lol. I just hope people listen to what I preach lol.. That's what it comes down too.

So you're the type that thinks drag racing takes no skill...

We race from digs, not rolls. Rolls are for fat people, Thanksgiving dinner, and people that can't drive.

Try consistently launching a car cutting 1.6 60's on street tires and hit your optimum shift points for each gear... consistently.

Also, I don't only drag. I run in the twisties as well (roads that are closed off to the public after a certain time and closed off to ALL for a period of time as well, with gate guards at each end).

And like I said already... I would LOVE to take it to the track.

07-23-2009, 04:00 AM

bboy you're a br0 but it only takes one **** up and it only takes one car of those 3 to make a big big life changing mistake.

bboypuertoroc · 07-23-2009, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by smurfblu13

I don't know man. Street racing is pretty dumb. Don't get me wrong I have done it, and truthfully I regret it. Let's be honest what does a straight line prove? **** I can build a B-18 Honda that'll kill in a straight. So what, that takes no skill in my eyes. A true driver knows when to have some fun and when to take it to a track to have even more fun. I'm sure I'll get flamed on this but I don't give a ****.

It proves the faster car and more consistent driver.

Would that Honda be able to hang from a dig? Like I said, I don't do rolls (anymore... did them way back when).

So am I not a true driver now?

07-23-2009, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bboypuertoroc

It proves the faster car and more consistent driver.

More to a car than a line

smurfblu13 · 07-23-2009, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bboypuertoroc

So you're the type that thinks drag racing takes no skill...

We race from digs, not rolls. Rolls are for fat people, Thanksgiving dinner, and people that can't drive.

I' not saying it takes no skill. If you can grab good 60' times more power to you.

I'm just saying for me, it takes more skill to be able to heel-toe through an apex then to power shift through a straight. Sorry bro this is going to be difference of opinion. So we'll leave it at that.

bboypuertoroc · 07-23-2009, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by smurfblu13

I' not saying it takes no skill. If you can grab good 60' times more power to you.

I'm just saying for me, it takes more skill to be able to heel-toe through an apex then to power shift through a straight. Sorry bro this is going to be difference of opinion. So we'll leave it at that.

Oh no, I completely agree that running on a road course takes more skill... definitely. All I'm saying is that drag racing DOES take skill... it's not just clutch-shift.

smurfblu13 · 07-23-2009, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by bboypuertoroc

It proves the faster car and more consistent driver.

Would that Honda be able to hang from a dig? Like I said, I don't do rolls (anymore... did them way back when).

So am I not a true driver now?

Ok, this is where we are def going to have difference of opinion. From a dig its all on the car. Yea driver reaction comes into play, but if I'm rolling a brand new M3 against a Prelude, I'ma whip yo *** regardless. Sorry I know where you're coming from, but let's be honest.

07-23-2009, 04:08 AM

I think this thread should be closed either way

BanningZ · 07-23-2009, 04:08 AM

This thread needs to be locked.

AK? Mods?

smurfblu13 · 07-23-2009, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01

More to a car than a line

Thank you!

BanningZ · 07-23-2009, 04:08 AM

Hey blue. JINX! lol

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07-23-2009, 03:43 AM	#32 (permalink)
smurfblu13 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: PA Posts: 2,584 Drives: cars Rep Power: 380	bottom line.. ** is dumb Don't do it don't sugar coat it either... yes I'm sure we have all done it at some point, don't get me wrong.. just be the bigger man and let go, believe me NOTHING and I mean NOTHING is worth your life! specially over some dumb **.

07-23-2009, 03:59 AM	#34 (permalink)
smurfblu13 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: PA Posts: 2,584 Drives: cars Rep Power: 380	I don't know man. Street racing is pretty dumb. Don't get me wrong I have done it, and truthfully I regret it. Let's be honest what does a straight line prove? ** I can build a B-18 Honda that'll kill in a straight. So what, that takes no skill in my eyes. A true driver knows when to have some fun and when to take it to a track to have even more fun. I'm sure I'll get flamed on this but I don't give a **.

07-23-2009, 04:00 AM	#36 (permalink)
blue660r01 Guest Posts: n/a	bboy you're a br0 but it only takes one **** up and it only takes one car of those 3 to make a big big life changing mistake.

07-23-2009, 04:08 AM	#42 (permalink)
blue660r01 Guest Posts: n/a	I think this thread should be closed either way