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HArturo319 12-26-2012 01:02 AM

Redlight Cameras a PITA in your area? Fear no more.
 
I'm not advocating unsafe driving but neither do I agree with these speed trap and red light cameras. I have rights to drive fast dammit :eekdance: (in a safe none duouchy manner)

noLimits Enterprises

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcFSA7N8Pmc

FlawlessZ 12-26-2012 01:08 AM

Interesting, sounds like they finally came up with something that should work.

Really tho who hear would pay $350 for it? "I don't run plates on my Z anyway..."

HArturo319 12-26-2012 01:10 AM

Well... a ticket costs around that amount I suppose. It's kind of cool in a gadget sort of way. Like who really needs a backup camera installed? Back in it's heyday, those things were super expensive. I'm sure the price will cool down within a couple of years.

PoorMansPorsh 12-26-2012 02:09 AM

Red light cams take photos in fractions of a second. I highly doubt the sensor would be able to sense the flash and emit its own light before the photograph was taken. Luckily for me all the red light cameras were taken down in my city.

HArturo319 12-26-2012 02:14 AM

^ Most Redlight cameras use flash photography. Though the flash works at literally at the speed of light, the camera getting ready to receive the image information doesn't giving the sensor on your car a micro second of time to react and counter act with it's own flash. Hyper exposing the picture.

Jimmyusmc 12-26-2012 02:31 AM

What about the new cameras that got put in recently? They take high definition video during the day....

HArturo319 12-26-2012 02:39 AM

I think those are few and between. I stay out of down town anyways.

Jimmyusmc 12-26-2012 02:40 AM

Oh ok well I think it would be a great investment for my wife as she has 2 already lol...

axmea? 12-26-2012 03:08 AM

Shouldn't you just slow down on red light areas anyway? Reason for these things is to be around is make it safe and lessen red light beaters. At least here in CA you're given heads up and made aware.

Love the video. Props to the guy (or gal) who came up with the idea - very innovative. The unit quickly responds with a flash once it senses the flash photography. The technology behind the quick reaction is very impressive and would like to know the science behind it.

RonRizz 12-26-2012 05:00 AM

I'm calling BS on this unit.

Nailzs 12-26-2012 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by PoorMansPorsh (Post 2077178)
Red light cams take photos in fractions of a second. I highly doubt the sensor would be able to sense the flash and emit its own light before the photograph was taken. Luckily for me all the red light cameras were taken down in my city.

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Compdoc777 12-26-2012 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HArturo319 (Post 2077179)
^ Most Redlight cameras use flash photography. Though the flash works at literally at the speed of light, the camera getting ready to receive the image information doesn't giving the sensor on your car a micro second of time to react and counter act with it's own flash. Hyper exposing the picture.

Plus they take video so even if you had something to beat the flash they could still get your tag off the video.

Then probably give you another ticket for trying to beat the system. Maybe if you had one of those angled plate covers that can only be seen from straight on.

When I got my red light ticket they had a pic of my plate and video of me going through a yellow that turned red when I was in mid intersection. You could see my plate even in the vid.

onzedge 12-26-2012 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoorMansPorsh (Post 2077178)
Red light cams take photos in fractions of a second. I highly doubt the sensor would be able to sense the flash and emit its own light before the photograph was taken. Luckily for me all the red light cameras were taken down in my city.

:iagree:

MX52Z 12-26-2012 07:59 AM

Years ago, I used slave flashes in a photo studio setting that were triggered by the main flash popping off. Each slave flash had a little light sensor that detected the main flash firing. So, I believe after more than a decade later, this kind of technology has improved and it's not a stretch to imagine a couple slave flashes built into a license plate frame. I'm all for countermeasures.

The way it always works is that some device i.e. red light camera, is promoted to the tax payers as a boon for "public safety" but in the backroom deals with city council members, it's a different language such as "low capital investment" and "guaranteed revenue stream."

With a few sleazy tweaks of the system such as shortening the yellow-light duration or nailing people who stop and then turn right at a light, pretty soon everyone is a felon behind the wheel. The camera company gets rich, the city gets addicted to the money (especially the city council dirtbags who accepted bribes), insurance companies cash in on raising premiums and the whole cottage industry of remedial driving schools and traffic lawyers get a piece of the action as well.

Anyone who opposes radar or red light cameras is stigmatized as an irresponsible scofflaw who only wants to speed and run red lights. Lies, oops I meant "statistics", are plotted to show how much safe an intersection is now that everyone is being brow beaten.

So word to the wise: whenever you hear "public safety" just replace those words with "easy money" to understand the real intentions.

RonRizz 12-26-2012 08:09 AM

heres an interesting read, and a possible way to get out of your red-light camera ticket. Photo Radar Scam - Malfunctions of Photo Enforcement Radar and Red Light Cameras
This is something I have been hearing alot about recently.

CDepp 12-26-2012 10:07 AM

'Stale green'. That's what I was taught as the term for a green that has been that way over 30secs. Based from my speed, I would hover the brake in the event it would go amber, up to the point I couldn't safely bring the car to a stop. I cannot recall the last time I blew a red, and I spend 3 hours a day driving from south of CLT through downtown to halfway to Mooresville. It's been years, no joking.
I hate to nanny, but our cars weigh almost 4,000 pounds. There's no excuse for running a red. Wrecks rarely happen due to mechanical error and mostly occur because of driver err. I would guess many happen when a driver 'thinks' nobody is where they intend to drive. Similar to thinking ,"I dont see anyone, running the red is harmless".
I hate red-light cameras, but 'cheating' them to avoid punishment for poor driving behaviors is not the way to go, IMO.

Apoc370z 12-26-2012 02:54 PM

How about you save the money for that thing that might or might not work and dont run red lights so you savE money on both?

onzedge 12-26-2012 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Apoc370z (Post 2077844)
How about you save the money for that thing that might or might not work and dont run red lights so you savE money on both?

:icon18: That is WAY too simple.

eastwest2300 12-26-2012 03:05 PM

Im buying one... thats $350 well spent.

HArturo319 12-26-2012 03:06 PM

Also helps in those DYI pics when trying to conceal your plates.

CDepp 12-26-2012 04:08 PM

Every car is several thousands of pounds of metal. Be responsible.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HArturo319 (Post 2077873)
Also helps in those DYI pics when trying to conceal your plates.

:tup:
THIS is a more acceptable application. I'd hate to wear the dang thing down going through a tunnel in VA or TN/NC though....(you know if you've been through them). Although I have a old $1.99 Autozone metal custom plate I cut the tops of the screws holes out of (and a little wide to make the slide) and slide into my plate frame to accomplish the same.

You could also get a 3M privacy screen and cut to your plate's size and insert into plate frame. That is if you're interested in flinging around about ~3,400 pounds of metal illegally.....just sayin. :stirthepot:

kenchan 12-26-2012 04:59 PM

just remove your plates.

HArturo319 12-26-2012 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2078086)
just remove your plates.

just buy a new car and forget about the lights

CDepp 12-27-2012 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HArturo319 (Post 2078718)
just buy a new car and forget about the lights

Just go out at night and remove all the stop lights in town and keep the Z. It's worth it.

ImportConvert 12-27-2012 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 2077194)
Shouldn't you just slow down on red light areas anyway? Reason for these things is to be around is make it safe and lessen red light beaters. At least here in CA you're given heads up and made aware.

Love the video. Props to the guy (or gal) who came up with the idea - very innovative. The unit quickly responds with a flash once it senses the flash photography. The technology behind the quick reaction is very impressive and would like to know the science behind it.

Sometimes you "need" to run a light. Some lights are very short, and if you are unfamiliar with the area and encounter one on wet roads, etc. it is safer just to go through it than to skid to a stop half-way through the intersection.

Just my .02

CDepp 12-27-2012 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 2078941)
Sometimes you "need" to run a light. Some lights are very short, and if you are unfamiliar with the area and encounter one on wet roads, etc. it is safer just to go through it than to skid to a stop half-way through the intersection.

Just my .02

Sometimes I need to stab a guy with a fork. Some people are unfamiliar and creepy looking and if he extends his arm at me, I'm not certain if he's reaching out to shake my hand, etc. and it's safer to assume he's a very poorly skilled pickpocket. ;)

:stirthepot:

Compdoc777 12-27-2012 07:07 AM

In Houston all the red light camera were forced off by populous.vote.

AK370Z 12-27-2012 10:11 PM

Interesting product. Thank god all the camera's in my town is for "traffic watch" only. Bigger question - "are these legal?" There are many products out there like laser jammer etc but using them knowingly on your car on the streets (especially in NJ or VA) will land you in jail ( I think?). Also, I question the quickness of this unit since didn't topgear proved that you must be driving at least 170 MPH to avoid the camera meaning these are super super quick cameras? As these license plate electronics gets updated and modernized, don't you think the camera's are getting quicker and smarter as well?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOx8A-TzHoQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnkp2sT8zkg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph-qv4gYAE8

cooltoy 08-10-2015 12:11 AM

Sorry to wake this sleeping beauty up (I am no prince charming), but has anybody had any further experience with this product.


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