Philosophic viewpoint/lifestyle.

370Z Purist · 06-30-2009, 03:45 AM

This came to mind since I tend to dabble in philosophy a little bit.

Also, yes, I misspelled nihilism. I'm sorry.

If you seriously mix into more than six of these, you'd fall into postmodernism (which grab the "best" parts of each philosophy that existed in the past).

When I was bored in the past, my mind would wander, and I still do wander around. I tend to touch upon sensitive things, especially things like the current problems with doctors not asking to perform autopsies, from which you can learn valuable things about diagnoses and prognoses and etc. The current moral dilemma lies in whether or not one "violated" body is sacrificed for the advancement in medical technology and procedure, and the action that doctors take (most nowadays don't even bother to ask after a patient's death).

Rep is appreciated if you learn something!

It's not very difficult to pop out "oh I am a philosophical" in a conversation, but usually if you do that, you might come off as more of a smartass instead of an intelligent person. So while you can't always use this to boost your ego, at least it would help to keep conversations going, get people something to think about, etc. Most people are able to say this and that about political, economical, social situations, but usually, their views tend to mix into this amalgam of weird and completely twisted ideals (like supporting universal health care, yet saying that people who don't work or are too low an IQ aren't able to get it, and that people with high incomes will still have to pay, etc).

This is a huge issue in today's politics, especially with the whole "legalize marijuana for recreational purposes," which in my opinion is the stupidest thing I have ever seen in my life. I understand the use of marijuana as a medical and utilitarian use (can be used to weave fibers, fire-resistant, etc.), but allowing it for recreational use causes extreme problems, since memory loss from too much marijuana is an extremely significant factor. At least smoking doesn't completely kill off your memory or regular function, I mean, sure it gives you lung cancer, but a pencil pusher doesn't necessarily need to worry about that (no offense to desk jockeys) as a job skill. Oh, and smoking doesn't impair motor function (as if we need more drunk driving-like behavior on roads full of street racing and people falling asleep at the wheel).

Crash · 06-30-2009, 03:47 AM

Is this a question?

I'm an Agnostic liberal that has no faith in society but faith in individuality.

Did I win a prize?

370Z Purist · 06-30-2009, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Crash

Is this a question?

I'm an Agnostic liberal that has no faith in society but faith in individuality.

Did I win a prize?

You'd fall into individualism. You wouldn't necessarily fit into deism, seeing as you don't have faith in society. However, being agnostic, you'd understand more of the personal thought capacity of one person. Individualism fits you fine.

Here's your prize:

Crash · 06-30-2009, 12:07 PM

LOL! Thanks. I guess I kept posting my replies before you posted the rest of the thread starter!

370Z Purist · 06-30-2009, 03:47 PM

Somehow I expected more conversation than this...

dad · 06-30-2009, 03:56 PM

but allowing it for recreational use causes extreme problems, since memory loss from too much marijuana is an extremely significant factor.

That is such crap!

370Z Purist · 06-30-2009, 04:05 PM

If you tell me how it's crap, then I'll rephrase. That is just my personal viewpoint.
You do have to admit it will psychologically affect people, and problems can stem from that.

dad · 06-30-2009, 07:33 PM

Do you mean addiction?

370Z Purist · 06-30-2009, 11:44 PM

Well, yes, the dangers of it becoming a dependency. I know some people can hold off their usage of drugs in general (moderation, drinking, smoking, etc).

dad · 07-01-2009, 04:41 PM

Long story short! I quit smoking weed and drinking , at the snap of a finger. No problems , no with draws , no cravings! But these damn cigarettes have got me by my balls!

I'm sorry. I didn't mean to go off topic and screw up your thread.

370Z Purist · 07-01-2009, 07:06 PM

It addresses the main issue, so that's fine.

edeeZee · 07-03-2009, 04:20 PM

Hey TS, can you "categorize" me?

I am: agnostic, a little more on the liberal side for socio/political issues albeit I believe in capitalism, I do value a structural government, I'm cynical in the sense that I think most people are naive because they are sheep i.e. they believe specious things, especially because the times change often and they "go with the flow"; and I am a taurus

370Z Purist · 07-03-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by edeeZee

Hey TS, can you "categorize" me?

I am: agnostic, a little more on the liberal side for socio/political issues albeit I believe in capitalism, I do value a structural government, I'm cynical in the sense that I think most people are naive because they are sheep i.e. they believe specious things, especially because the times change often and they "go with the flow"; and I am a taurus

Individualism would somewhat fit you better.
You are agnostic, which exemplifies that you understand the coherent existence of something beyond earthly realms, yet also realize that there is no physical proof or evidence. Although slightly liberal (classical individualists were often conservative), you advocate capitalism, which, despite the fact you think a lot are sheep, that means there are the humans that shepherd them.
Individualism is almost literally what it says, it is an entire lifestyle that defines your life philosophy, what you think about society, politics, and the economy. You believe in the singular talent of specific people, namely yourself, to become better and achieve success. You want to be defined from the crowd, a nonconformist of sorts. In short, you want to be an individual.

I sound like a damned fortune cookie.

BanningZ · 07-03-2009, 10:18 PM

How long have you been studying philosophy classes 370Z Purist?

I've taken 8 classes myself at the college level and 6 religion classes. I also took 4 PHL classes in High school. Fun stuff.

Its interesting how Philosophy, Theology, sociology, and anthropology intertwine themselves together.

The Makeup of man I suppose.

Most all philosophers have interesting questions to consider, but one guy I can't stand is Singer. He is such a hypocrite. That and I'm not the biggest Rand fan, but to each his(or her) own.

edeeZee · 07-03-2009, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Z Purist

Individualism would somewhat fit you better.
You are agnostic, which exemplifies that you understand the coherent existence of something beyond earthly realms, yet also realize that there is no physical proof or evidence. Although slightly liberal (classical individualists were often conservative), you advocate capitalism, which, despite the fact you think a lot are sheep, that means there are the humans that shepherd them.
Individualism is almost literally what it says, it is an entire lifestyle that defines your life philosophy, what you think about society, politics, and the economy. You believe in the singular talent of specific people, namely yourself, to become better and achieve success. You want to be defined from the crowd, a nonconformist of sorts. In short, you want to be an individual.

I sound like a damned fortune cookie.

Thanks.

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Anarchism	1	10.00%
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Existentialism	1	10.00%
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06-30-2009, 03:45 AM	#1 (permalink)
370Z Purist A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Zion, Illinois Posts: 1,873 Drives: '09 370Z-T BS M6 Rep Power: 19	Philosophic viewpoint/lifestyle. This came to mind since I tend to dabble in philosophy a little bit. Also, yes, I misspelled nihilism. I'm sorry. If you seriously mix into more than six of these, you'd fall into postmodernism (which grab the "best" parts of each philosophy that existed in the past). When I was bored in the past, my mind would wander, and I still do wander around. I tend to touch upon sensitive things, especially things like the current problems with doctors not asking to perform autopsies, from which you can learn valuable things about diagnoses and prognoses and etc. The current moral dilemma lies in whether or not one "violated" body is sacrificed for the advancement in medical technology and procedure, and the action that doctors take (most nowadays don't even bother to ask after a patient's death). Rep is appreciated if you learn something! It's not very difficult to pop out "oh I am a philosophical" in a conversation, but usually if you do that, you might come off as more of a smartass instead of an intelligent person. So while you can't always use this to boost your ego, at least it would help to keep conversations going, get people something to think about, etc. Most people are able to say this and that about political, economical, social situations, but usually, their views tend to mix into this amalgam of weird and completely twisted ideals (like supporting universal health care, yet saying that people who don't work or are too low an IQ aren't able to get it, and that people with high incomes will still have to pay, etc). This is a huge issue in today's politics, especially with the whole "legalize marijuana for recreational purposes," which in my opinion is the stupidest thing I have ever seen in my life. I understand the use of marijuana as a medical and utilitarian use (can be used to weave fibers, fire-resistant, etc.), but allowing it for recreational use causes extreme problems, since memory loss from too much marijuana is an extremely significant factor. At least smoking doesn't completely kill off your memory or regular function, I mean, sure it gives you lung cancer, but a pencil pusher doesn't necessarily need to worry about that (no offense to desk jockeys) as a job skill. Oh, and smoking doesn't impair motor function (as if we need more drunk driving-like behavior on roads full of street racing and people falling asleep at the wheel). __________________ -Phil "Since one of my brake light bulbs just went out, the forum told me that my piston rings are about to blow." Last edited by 370Z Purist; 06-30-2009 at 04:20 AM. Reason: expanding

06-30-2009, 03:47 AM	#2 (permalink)
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06-30-2009, 12:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 589	LOL! Thanks. I guess I kept posting my replies before you posted the rest of the thread starter! __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

06-30-2009, 03:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
370Z Purist A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Zion, Illinois Posts: 1,873 Drives: '09 370Z-T BS M6 Rep Power: 19	Somehow I expected more conversation than this... __________________ -Phil "Since one of my brake light bulbs just went out, the forum told me that my piston rings are about to blow."

06-30-2009, 03:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
dad Grand Prix of Endurance Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 3,476 Drives: Mulsanne Straight Rep Power: 26	but allowing it for recreational use causes extreme problems, since memory loss from too much marijuana is an extremely significant factor. That is such crap! __________________ We can do without any article of luxury we have never had; but once obtained, it is not in human nature to surrender it voluntary.

06-30-2009, 04:05 PM	#7 (permalink)
370Z Purist A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Zion, Illinois Posts: 1,873 Drives: '09 370Z-T BS M6 Rep Power: 19	If you tell me how it's crap, then I'll rephrase. That is just my personal viewpoint. You do have to admit it will psychologically affect people, and problems can stem from that. __________________ -Phil "Since one of my brake light bulbs just went out, the forum told me that my piston rings are about to blow."

06-30-2009, 07:33 PM	#8 (permalink)
dad Grand Prix of Endurance Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 3,476 Drives: Mulsanne Straight Rep Power: 26	Do you mean addiction? __________________ We can do without any article of luxury we have never had; but once obtained, it is not in human nature to surrender it voluntary.

06-30-2009, 11:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
370Z Purist A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Zion, Illinois Posts: 1,873 Drives: '09 370Z-T BS M6 Rep Power: 19	Well, yes, the dangers of it becoming a dependency. I know some people can hold off their usage of drugs in general (moderation, drinking, smoking, etc). __________________ -Phil "Since one of my brake light bulbs just went out, the forum told me that my piston rings are about to blow."

07-01-2009, 04:41 PM	#10 (permalink)
dad Grand Prix of Endurance Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 3,476 Drives: Mulsanne Straight Rep Power: 26	Long story short! I quit smoking weed and drinking , at the snap of a finger. No problems , no with draws , no cravings! But these damn cigarettes have got me by my balls! I'm sorry. I didn't mean to go off topic and screw up your thread. __________________ We can do without any article of luxury we have never had; but once obtained, it is not in human nature to surrender it voluntary.

07-01-2009, 07:06 PM	#11 (permalink)
370Z Purist A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Zion, Illinois Posts: 1,873 Drives: '09 370Z-T BS M6 Rep Power: 19	It addresses the main issue, so that's fine. __________________ -Phil "Since one of my brake light bulbs just went out, the forum told me that my piston rings are about to blow."

07-03-2009, 04:20 PM	#12 (permalink)
edeeZee Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: s. cali, los angeles Posts: 627 Drives: 09 370z plat 6 speed Rep Power: 266	Hey TS, can you "categorize" me? I am: agnostic, a little more on the liberal side for socio/political issues albeit I believe in capitalism, I do value a structural government, I'm cynical in the sense that I think most people are naive because they are sheep i.e. they believe specious things, especially because the times change often and they "go with the flow"; and I am a taurus

07-03-2009, 10:18 PM	#14 (permalink)
BanningZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: nowhere Posts: 5,478 Drives: 06' Nismo Frontier Rep Power: 29	How long have you been studying philosophy classes 370Z Purist? I've taken 8 classes myself at the college level and 6 religion classes. I also took 4 PHL classes in High school. Fun stuff. Its interesting how Philosophy, Theology, sociology, and anthropology intertwine themselves together. The Makeup of man I suppose. Most all philosophers have interesting questions to consider, but one guy I can't stand is Singer. He is such a hypocrite. That and I'm not the biggest Rand fan, but to each his(or her) own. __________________ Become a Premium Member: Click HERE MB 06' Nismo VQ40DE