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Meulen · 10-25-2013, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Alright, you're off the hook. If it tanks, I'll email him the punch in the nuts.

40% gain in my ZNGA options overnight!, and No kick in the nuts from Chuck!!! Wish I could do that everyday! LOL

Chuck33079 · 10-25-2013, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Meulen

40% gain in my ZNGA options overnight!, and No kick in the nuts from Chuck!!! Wish I could do that everyday! LOL

So far so good. Trying to decide how long I hold these. I'm out of the office today, so it'll be Monday. Or do I gamble and see if it goes further before expiration?

Meulen · 10-25-2013, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

So far so good. Trying to decide how long I hold these. I'm out of the office today, so it'll be Monday. Or do I gamble and see if it goes further before expiration?

I've got a 60 day mandatory holding period so I'm going to wait till year end and see what the tax situation is to make the decision. I think I'd probably hold on to them a while anyway. Reading through the release, it feels more like a bottoming out and turn around rather than a one trick pony.

NickTurnon · 10-25-2013, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Meulen

I've got a 60 day mandatory holding period so I'm going to wait till year end and see what the tax situation is to make the decision. I think I'd probably hold on to them a while anyway. Reading through the release, it feels more like a bottoming out and turn around rather than a one trick pony.

You think its too late to buy in? Did I miss that train

Meulen · 10-25-2013, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by NickTurnon

You think its too late to buy in? Did I miss that train

Personally, I like to capture an intitial gain when I trade. Partly because of my lockout period, and partly because it's just part of the process of the model I developed to trade with. So I can't look at and analyze the stock the same way as I did yesterday. If I'm looking at it as a longer term play? I think I'd buy the stock, since it's still pretty cheap, and just sit on it for a while. I think the quick gain is over though. But there is certainly a long term growth opportunity here

NickTurnon · 10-25-2013, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Meulen

Personally, I like to capture an intitial gain when I trade. Partly because of my lockout period, and partly because it's just part of the process of the model I developed to trade with. So I can't look at and analyze the stock the same way as I did yesterday. If I'm looking at it as a longer term play? I think I'd buy the stock, since it's still pretty cheap, and just sit on it for a while. I think the quick gain is over though. But there is certainly a long term growth opportunity here

Thats what I was looking for, thank you. Have a few hundred bucks just sitting in my portfolio and not being used to buy stock, so I need to add a couple more growers even if its only a hundred shares.

Meulen · 10-25-2013, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by NickTurnon

Thats what I was looking for, thank you. Have a few hundred bucks just sitting in my portfolio and not being used to buy stock, so I need to add a couple more growers even if its only a hundred shares.

The way I see this one is that they have $2/shr cash on the bal sheet. Now that they've stopped the bleeding of users....they are stabilizing and maybe a candy crush or words with friends away from big things! Certainly not a slam dunk, but there is fair amount of opportunity there.

Chuck33079 · 10-25-2013, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Meulen

The way I see this one is that they have $2/shr cash on the bal sheet. Now that they've stopped the bleeding of users....they are stabilizing and maybe a candy crush or words with friends away from big things! Certainly not a slam dunk, but there is fair amount of opportunity there.

See, here's where we disagree. I'd rather not be long zynga. I have no problems making an options bet on their earnings. But there's a million different ways to invest and zynga doesn't hit the metrics I need to own it. That's why this is fun. Everybody has their own system.

Meulen · 10-25-2013, 10:29 AM

Nick,

another one I like long term for growth potential is PBPB. Potbelly's Sandwich Works. This company started here in Chicago. One of it's first stores is literally down my elevator and across the street from me. You need to have a good stomach to buy this one at around 100x eps! But in my eyes, if I go out to lunch here in the city there are two resteraunts that have lines out the door day in and day out. Not just when new, but for years since they went in. Those two are Potbelly's and Chipotle! Now.... go look at a chart and see how many locations Chipotle has opened crossed the country and look at it's incredible stock chart! Potbelly currently has a fraction of the locations around the country. They are a real hit with the hipster crowd here in Chicagoland and do great business here. If they grow 1/2 as much as Chipotle did you will make a lot of money with this stock.

Meulen · 10-25-2013, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

See, here's where we disagree. I'd rather not be long zynga. I have no problems making an options bet on their earnings. But there's a million different ways to invest and zynga doesn't hit the metrics I need to own it. That's why this is fun. Everybody has their own system.

I don't think I'd have a huge position in it long term either. But this is one of those Higher risk long term growth opportunities I would hold on to. We are talking $400 for 100 shares. If that's a small portion of your portfolio I like ZNGA as turnaround growth play. I've done this over the years with Smith and Wesson and RiteAid. Both of which paid off enormously after about 5 years. Trust me...I've lost too! But I like to take portion of my portfolio, do some homework, and bet on companies that may grow in the future. That's the portion of a portfolio things like this are good for. And at $4/share you can do this with a small amount of risk. But your ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! ......different strokes!

NickTurnon · 10-25-2013, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Meulen

Nick,

another one I like long term for growth potential is PBPB. Potbelly's Sandwich Works. This company started here in Chicago. One of it's first stores is literally down my elevator and across the street from me. You need to have a good stomach to buy this one at around 100x eps! But in my eyes, if I go out to lunch here in the city there are two resteraunts that have lines out the door day in and day out. Not just when new, but for years since they went in. Those two are Potbelly's and Chipotle! Now.... go look at a chart and see how many locations Chipotle has opened crossed the country and look at it's incredible stock chart! Potbelly currently has a fraction of the locations around the country. They are a real hit with the hipster crowd here in Chicagoland and do great business here. If they grow 1/2 as much as Chipotle did you will make a lot of money with this stock.

Not to mention, the "Wreck" on Multi-grain with everything + hot peppers is DELICIOUS. They just opened one behind my work. I frequent that place. I will definitely add it to the watch list or purchase a couple.

Appreciate the feedback - Purchased 80 shares of ZNGA for a total unit cost of 4.07 - so we will see if it has any more play or continues to grow. Even if I can squeeze $100+ outta the deal, Ill be happy.

Thank you

ZMan8 · 10-25-2013, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Meulen

Nick,

another one I like long term for growth potential is PBPB. Potbelly's Sandwich Works. This company started here in Chicago. One of it's first stores is literally down my elevator and across the street from me. You need to have a good stomach to buy this one at around 100x eps! But in my eyes, if I go out to lunch here in the city there are two resteraunts that have lines out the door day in and day out. Not just when new, but for years since they went in. Those two are Potbelly's and Chipotle! Now.... go look at a chart and see how many locations Chipotle has opened crossed the country and look at it's incredible stock chart! Potbelly currently has a fraction of the locations around the country. They are a real hit with the hipster crowd here in Chicagoland and do great business here. If they grow 1/2 as much as Chipotle did you will make a lot of money with this stock.

I can see PBPB being a good growth stock. They have been opening lots of locations up in the Illinois area. And you're right, there are always long lines during lunch time.

raymondo510 · 10-27-2013, 04:32 AM

wow I just read all 14 pages and my mind is

. Lot of good info guys. I have no experience in investing what so ever, but am very interested. So I started looking around trying to gain some knowledege and was wondering, lets say for a first time investor. Would a company like Microsoft be too big of a company to start with? Their currently at 35.73 and my idea was with the release of their new system next month that their sales would sky rocket a long with Sony. Is my idea completely crazy? or does it make sense? Im gonna try to get some better insight from a pro but just thought I would ask.

Chuck33079 · 10-27-2013, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by raymondo510

wow I just read all 14 pages and my mind is

. Lot of good info guys. I have no experience in investing what so ever, but am very interested. So I started looking around trying to gain some knowledege and was wondering, lets say for a first time investor. Would a company like Microsoft be too big of a company to start with? Their currently at 35.73 and my idea was with the release of their new system next month that their sales would sky rocket a long with Sony. Is my idea completely crazy? or does it make sense? Im gonna try to get some better insight from a pro but just thought I would ask.

What do you want your money to do? How much of a loss can you stomach? What's your time horizon? How much volatility day to day are you comfortable with?

raymondo510 · 10-27-2013, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

What do you want your money to do? How much of a loss can you stomach? What's your time horizon? How much volatility day to day are you comfortable with?

Well from what i've been reading there are short term investments like "penny" stocks and mid to longer term investments. I was thinking of starting small so I can get a feel for things so I was thinking on smaller short term. Im not looking to make this a full time job, maybe just a way to earn a little extra income. I understand it's a bit of gamble. I have some money saved, but I'm not willing to put it all on the line, is that what you meant?

10-25-2013, 10:29 AM	#204 (permalink)
Meulen A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Romeoville, IL Posts: 1,093 Drives: 2010 370z 40th Rep Power: 3390	Nick, another one I like long term for growth potential is PBPB. Potbelly's Sandwich Works. This company started here in Chicago. One of it's first stores is literally down my elevator and across the street from me. You need to have a good stomach to buy this one at around 100x eps! But in my eyes, if I go out to lunch here in the city there are two resteraunts that have lines out the door day in and day out. Not just when new, but for years since they went in. Those two are Potbelly's and Chipotle! Now.... go look at a chart and see how many locations Chipotle has opened crossed the country and look at it's incredible stock chart! Potbelly currently has a fraction of the locations around the country. They are a real hit with the hipster crowd here in Chicagoland and do great business here. If they grow 1/2 as much as Chipotle did you will make a lot of money with this stock. ZMan8 likes this. __________________ Follow my build thread here: Meulens Build Journal

10-27-2013, 04:32 AM	#208 (permalink)
raymondo510 Track Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NORCAL Posts: 823 Drives: Like I stole It Rep Power: 15	wow I just read all 14 pages and my mind is . Lot of good info guys. I have no experience in investing what so ever, but am very interested. So I started looking around trying to gain some knowledege and was wondering, lets say for a first time investor. Would a company like Microsoft be too big of a company to start with? Their currently at 35.73 and my idea was with the release of their new system next month that their sales would sky rocket a long with Sony. Is my idea completely crazy? or does it make sense? Im gonna try to get some better insight from a pro but just thought I would ask. __________________ If you ain't first...you're last! -RICKY BOBBY

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