Anyone here into firearms?

VABAM · 11-29-2021, 07:18 PM

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I don't know anything about the case. But talking with some state troopers years ago. In something like you descripted. Your size matters. You're a little guy with the gun, and he's a big guy charging you. It's easier for you to claim self-defense. Reverse that and it becomes somewhat more muddle. But if he has something in his hand and ready to strike you. It becomes a lot easier.

Texas has some looser laws when it comes to self defense on one’s property and more importantly in one’s house. That’s why I brought up the porch and that it is considered part of the house in Texas law. Legally, Read entered Carruth’s house when he approached Carruth on the porch. When Read flung Carruth off the porch he was basically kicking Carruth out of his house, legally. If you read Texas law Carruth was legal with in the letter of the law. Doesn’t mean I like it and question Carruth motives in this situation. I feel there is more to this that the public doesn’t know but the impression I’m getting is Carruth probably will not get charged and even if he does no jury in that part of Texas will convict him.

redondoaveb · 11-29-2021, 07:41 PM

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Texas has some looser laws when it comes to self defense on one’s property and more importantly in one’s house. That’s why I brought up the porch and that it is considered part of the house in Texas law. Legally, Read entered Carruth’s house when he approached Carruth on the porch. When Read flung Carruth off the porch he was basically kicking Carruth out of his house, legally. If you read Texas law Carruth was legal with in the letter of the law. Doesn’t mean I like it and question Carruth motives in this situation. I feel there is more to this that the public doesn’t know but the impression I’m getting is Carruth probably will not get charged and even if he does no jury in that part of Texas will convict him.

I watched the video. I agree with the self defense part of it. The only iffy part is that Carruth didn't turn and shoot in one motion after being thrown off the porch and Read didn't come after him after he threw him. Carruth actually hesitated and took aim before pulling the trigger. But I'm sure I would have done the same thing. Heat of the moment.

VABAM · 11-29-2021, 07:58 PM

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I watched the video. I agree with the self defense part of it. The only iffy part is that Carruth didn't turn and shoot in one motion after being thrown off the porch and Read didn't come after him after he threw him. Carruth actually hesitated and took aim before pulling the trigger. But I'm sure I would have done the same thing. Heat of the moment.

Supposedly Read was taking a step towards Carruth when he shot him. Carruth hesitating, the “warning” shot, him getting a gun when Read wasn’t being violent, them standing casually after the shooting, while legal makes the situation feel slimy.

redondoaveb · 11-29-2021, 08:20 PM

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Supposedly Read was taking a step towards Carruth when he shot him. Carruth hesitating, the “warning” shot, him getting a gun when Read wasn’t being violent, them standing casually after the shooting, while legal makes the situation feel slimy.

They were probably 8 to10' apart when Carruth took the shot. I agree, all of what you say is exactly how it played out in the video making it look real slimy.

Hotrodz · 11-30-2021, 07:30 PM

It was a bad shooting in my opinion. He would have been more justified when he did first bump him. Second firing a warning shot never plays well. It makes him the aggressor. The guy grabs his gun and tosses him but does not continue to pursue him. There is time and opportunity for him to retreat and move away from the threat. He does not!

AZ law states that you can threaten to use deadly force if someone is on your property and will not leave but you cannot use such force until you are fearing for your life. I suspect that will be what this case will hing on!

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ZeeingAround · 12-01-2021, 10:35 AM

Just ordered a Glock 22 service pistol off of GunBroker. Something to mess with and get a 9mm barrel for it too.
The BF sale shipped. Got the AR500 torso and stand. Now I can compete with the church for ringing bells.

On another note. School shooting across the state from me. 4 day old hand gun in the hands of a 15yr old. sad

VABAM · 12-01-2021, 11:31 AM

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On another note. School shooting across the state from me. 4 day old hand gun in the hands of a 15yr old. sad

Very sad indeed. Sucks that these kids died but like usual the media started talking about gun control before the bodies were even cold. The same media that is still calling the Christmas Parade attack a “car accident”.

Considering that the gun was 4 days old makes me wonder if the father was a new gun owner. I’m guessing if the kid had access to a gun before then he might have done the shooting sooner. If the father was new to guns then he might have not had proper storage and/or he didn’t realize how troubled his son was. Either way that father must be devastated.

Rusty · 12-03-2021, 12:37 PM

Got a new anti cant level for my RPR.

https://accuracy1st.com/collections/...ized-Aluminum/

Rusty · 12-03-2021, 12:47 PM

For Christmas, I told the wifey. Either a Lab Radar or a Primal Rights priming tool. Which one that was in stock. The Lab Radar is out of stock and no back order for now. So she got me the Primal Rights priming tool.

https://www.primalrights.com/reloading-equipment

Hotrodz · 12-03-2021, 12:51 PM

Gotta love Chris!

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Rusty · 12-03-2021, 01:00 PM

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Gotta love Chris!

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For Christmas. We give each other a list with the items we want with links. Takes the guess work and disappointment out of it. The list may have 10 items on it. And I say pick 4 or 5 things off of it to get for me. Everyone is happy now.

Hotrodz · 12-03-2021, 01:03 PM

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For Christmas. We give each other a list with the items we want with links. Takes the guess work and disappointment out of it. The list may have 10 items on it. And I say pick 4 or 5 things off of it to get for me. Everyone is happy now.

That is perfect!

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Rusty · 12-03-2021, 01:07 PM

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That is perfect!

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I do this with my daughter too. She does this with her BF now.

Hotrodz · 12-03-2021, 01:14 PM

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I do this with my daughter too. She does this with her BF now.

Like you said, it takes the guess work and disappointment out of the equation.

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Rusty · 12-03-2021, 01:22 PM

I'm working on my Rem 700 with a Bell & Carson carbon stocked 7mm Rem Mag. It decided to start doing some vertical stringing. So I free floated the barrel. Now I'm going to pillar bed the action. I'm going to use The Score High pillar bedding kit. It's my Christmas present from my daughter.

Score High Gunsmithing

I'm buying the jigs to drill the stock for the pillars myself since they're a bit pricy. I'll see how this turns out. Then I'll do my 243 BDL.

11-30-2021, 07:30 PM	#6050 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	It was a bad shooting in my opinion. He would have been more justified when he did first bump him. Second firing a warning shot never plays well. It makes him the aggressor. The guy grabs his gun and tosses him but does not continue to pursue him. There is time and opportunity for him to retreat and move away from the threat. He does not! AZ law states that you can threaten to use deadly force if someone is on your property and will not leave but you cannot use such force until you are fearing for your life. I suspect that will be what this case will hing on! Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk VABAM, JARblue and Rusty like this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

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ZeeingAround A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 6,365 Drives: 3500 NVP 370Z-sold! Rep Power: 86623	Just ordered a Glock 22 service pistol off of GunBroker. Something to mess with and get a 9mm barrel for it too. The BF sale shipped. Got the AR500 torso and stand. Now I can compete with the church for ringing bells. On another note. School shooting across the state from me. 4 day old hand gun in the hands of a 15yr old. sad VABAM, JARblue, Rusty and 1 others like this. __________________ Get some roosters for eggs and Bulls for milk . Then you will see that gender matters. Especially at milking time. Last edited by ZeeingAround; 12-01-2021 at 10:42 AM.

12-03-2021, 12:51 PM	#6055 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	Gotta love Chris! Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Rusty likes this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|